Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
02-05-2006, 01:46 PM
#16
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
Actually Bob, I think it's better to wait and hear your comments after the
repair. Anything anyone else could offer at this time would be anecdotal,
or perhaps cautionary, or maybe even irrelevant. The proof is in the
pudding and we're waiting to see how your pudding tastes.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
02-05-2006, 02:12 PM
#17
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
bobweb wrote:
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
02-05-2006, 02:12 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
bobweb wrote:
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
02-05-2006, 02:12 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
bobweb wrote:
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006 Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design. The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6 gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
I wouldn't lose faith in Hyundai of something like a cracked piston. It
is likely that Hyundai doesn't even make their own pistons, but buys
them from a supplier. If they stand behind the repair, I wouldn't hold
something like this against them.
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the power
> train warranty or not.
Since my Sonata has only 2,000 miles on it, I haven't had occasion to
test Hyundai's service skills or warranty support. I'm curious about
this also.
Matt
02-06-2006, 02:05 AM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
The Santy never had a problem, was there only one time for the first service
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
02-06-2006, 02:05 AM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
The Santy never had a problem, was there only one time for the first service
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
02-06-2006, 02:05 AM
#22
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
The Santy never had a problem, was there only one time for the first service
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
(free).
The Elantra had one problem (engine hesitation) and two recalls, took it for
the problem and one recall first time, done in 4 hrs. total cost $0.00
Second time took it there for a 30,000 service and the second recall, plus
some other extra work, they only charged me for the extra work and the parts
and fluids for the 30K service, about $400.00
I'll say the cost will had been about $250.00, if done at a local shop, then
again, they did it right and fast, the first time.
"bobweb" <u18437@uwe> wrote in message news:5b6eb82a4c631@uwe...
> Victor: The Hyundai dealer says my 2003 Elantra GLS engine has a cracked
> piston, and they are rebuilding the engine. We had regular Hyundai service
> and only 36,000 miles on the car which had run great until this engine
> failure occurred. Now I don't know whether to trust another Hyundai
> product
> or not. I had been thinking of trading the Elantra in on the new 2006
> Sonata
> that has the V6 engine with timing chain rather than timing belt design.
> The
> only negative comments I've seen on the new Sonata so far is that the V6
> gas
> mileage isn't as good as hoped, and that the throttle has a hesitation
> response when first starting up from idle. The gas mileage is
> understandable
> if the engine really gets a true 230 HP as claimed. The sluggish throttle
> response will probably be fixed eventually by a modification of some kind
> since the car has just been redesigned and needs to work out some bugs.
>
> You say Hyundai service has been ok, but have you had any warranty work
> done,
> or just routine maintenance? The jury is still out for me on my engine
> warranty work, and it will depend a lot on the particular dealer's
> technician
> skills since they are completely rebuilding the engine in the shop rather
> than putting a new engine in the car. Also, even though there is no
> evidence
> of improper maintenance, I'm waiting to see if they'll stand behind the
> power
> train warranty or not.
>
> Any comments from the forum would be appreciated. Thanks!, Bobweb
>
> Victor A. Garcia wrote:
>>Actually got two, 02 Elantra GLS, and 03 Santa Fe LX, best prices, not
>>hassle or high pressure sales. LOVE IT !!!!
>>Service dept. is OK, fast and reliable, but a little bit in the high $$$,
>>guess you get what you paid for.
>>
>>> Has anyone every bought a car from Fritzgerald Auto Mall? You can buy
>>> a 2006 Sonata GLS for $16,762 (see fitzmall.com). No dealer in my city
>>> will come close the that price.
02-06-2006, 12:25 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
02-06-2006, 12:25 PM
#24
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
02-06-2006, 12:25 PM
#25
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
particular owner's piston issue.
If you want to go back about ten years, Hyundai parts weren't very
stellar. Why are they better now? Hyundai doesn't shop for parts by
price only any more. Quality is now a large factor. Hyundai has come to
understand that they'll never have a large share of the American market
unless their product is perceived as quality.
02-06-2006, 05:38 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
hyundaitech wrote:
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
02-06-2006, 05:38 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
hyundaitech wrote:
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
02-06-2006, 05:38 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
hyundaitech wrote:
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
> Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case that
> Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned about
> this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> particular owner's piston issue.
True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
manufacturer of the piston.
Matt
02-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news
dQFf.5940$lb.523432@news1.epix.net...> hyundaitech wrote:
>
> > Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case
that
> > Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned
about
> > this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> > cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> > particular owner's piston issue.
>
> True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
> Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
> affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
> isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
> a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
> manufacturer of the piston.
>
Not when it (as a subassembly) goes into a final assembly. The final
assembly is what is warranted. In this case it's Hyundai's problem if their
supplier supplied a defective part. If they want to go back after the
supplier, that's between them and the supplier, but the customer need only
look to Hyundai.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
02-06-2006, 08:41 PM
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Re: Cost of a 2006 Sonata?
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news
dQFf.5940$lb.523432@news1.epix.net...> hyundaitech wrote:
>
> > Although I'm sure piston manufacture is outsourced, it's also the case
that
> > Hyundai specifies what they want. While I too am not very concerned
about
> > this particular issue, as this is the only case I've ever heard about a
> > cracked piston, Hyundai does not necessarily remain blameless on this
> > particular owner's piston issue.
>
> True, if this was an issue with the piston design specifications that
> Hyundai gave to the piston supplier. However, design issues tend to
> affect a lot of parts, not just one in several thousand. If this was an
> isolate problem, then it typically is a manufacturing defect rather than
> a design error. Manufacturing defects are the responsibility of the
> manufacturer of the piston.
>
Not when it (as a subassembly) goes into a final assembly. The final
assembly is what is warranted. In this case it's Hyundai's problem if their
supplier supplied a defective part. If they want to go back after the
supplier, that's between them and the supplier, but the customer need only
look to Hyundai.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net