Coupe FOB issue
12-23-2005, 03:16 AM
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Coupe FOB issue
Hi all
I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
and dusted on this group.
I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
further they can do about it.
I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
not pay for a faulty product.
What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
Thanks in advance
Perusha
I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
and dusted on this group.
I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
further they can do about it.
I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
not pay for a faulty product.
What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
Thanks in advance
Perusha
12-23-2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Friends of Bill?
whose RAC?
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"PM" <perusha.moodley@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
> get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
> would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
> and dusted on this group.
>
> I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
> it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
> least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
> have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
> the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
> claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
> taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
> further they can do about it.
>
> I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
> when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
> time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
> not pay for a faulty product.
>
> What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
> dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Perusha
>
whose RAC?
--
"PM" <perusha.moodley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135325809.562719.14960@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
> get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
> would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
> and dusted on this group.
>
> I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
> it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
> least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
> have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
> the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
> claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
> taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
> further they can do about it.
>
> I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
> when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
> time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
> not pay for a faulty product.
>
> What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
> dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Perusha
>
12-23-2005, 11:05 AM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Friends of Bill?
whose RAC?
--
"PM" <perusha.moodley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135325809.562719.14960@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
> get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
> would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
> and dusted on this group.
>
> I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
> it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
> least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
> have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
> the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
> claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
> taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
> further they can do about it.
>
> I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
> when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
> time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
> not pay for a faulty product.
>
> What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
> dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Perusha
>
whose RAC?
--
"PM" <perusha.moodley@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1135325809.562719.14960@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
> Hi all
>
> I am new to this group but I have a burning issue that I am hoping to
> get some feedback on - and I apologise if it is old news to you all and
> would appreciate a pointer to the thread if it is indeed already done
> and dusted on this group.
>
> I have recently purchased a Hyundai Coupe V6 (about 4 months ago) and
> it was only one year old in November 2005. Since then I have had at
> least 5 occassions where the FOB just goes out of sync with the car and
> have had to call the RAC out to get me back on the road again. I took
> the car in as it is still under the warranty and the service center
> claims that this model does have this problem and I just have to keep
> taking it in to the service center to get new FOBs as there is nothing
> further they can do about it.
>
> I do not have the luxury of taking my car in every week or two weeks
> when this happens and this is exceptionally frustrating for me as each
> time I approach my car I don't know if it will open or not and I did
> not pay for a faulty product.
>
> What I want to know is if anyone else has this problem and how you
> dealt with it and what I could potentially do about it.
>
> Thanks in advance
>
> Perusha
>
12-28-2005, 08:16 AM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Sorry - I guess terminologies vary
FOB is what Hyundai uses in the UK to refer to the remote control
device they give you with the car for the alarm system. I guess you
guys call it something else.
RAC is like Automobile Association - you get free RAC cover here with
the car for a few years.
I am in Edinburgh for Christmas and the remote has just died on me
again. This time it seems that the batteries have been drained as this
is a new remote. Just called the RAC out to get me back on the road.
I take it this is not a common problem with the Coupes?
kaboom wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:07:37 -0500, "hyundaitech"
> <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> **Maybe the key fob is screwing up and they have to call the Royal
> Auto Club
>
> just a guess
>
> kaboomie
FOB is what Hyundai uses in the UK to refer to the remote control
device they give you with the car for the alarm system. I guess you
guys call it something else.
RAC is like Automobile Association - you get free RAC cover here with
the car for a few years.
I am in Edinburgh for Christmas and the remote has just died on me
again. This time it seems that the batteries have been drained as this
is a new remote. Just called the RAC out to get me back on the road.
I take it this is not a common problem with the Coupes?
kaboom wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:07:37 -0500, "hyundaitech"
> <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> **Maybe the key fob is screwing up and they have to call the Royal
> Auto Club
>
> just a guess
>
> kaboomie
12-28-2005, 08:16 AM
#9
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Sorry - I guess terminologies vary
FOB is what Hyundai uses in the UK to refer to the remote control
device they give you with the car for the alarm system. I guess you
guys call it something else.
RAC is like Automobile Association - you get free RAC cover here with
the car for a few years.
I am in Edinburgh for Christmas and the remote has just died on me
again. This time it seems that the batteries have been drained as this
is a new remote. Just called the RAC out to get me back on the road.
I take it this is not a common problem with the Coupes?
kaboom wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:07:37 -0500, "hyundaitech"
> <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> **Maybe the key fob is screwing up and they have to call the Royal
> Auto Club
>
> just a guess
>
> kaboomie
FOB is what Hyundai uses in the UK to refer to the remote control
device they give you with the car for the alarm system. I guess you
guys call it something else.
RAC is like Automobile Association - you get free RAC cover here with
the car for a few years.
I am in Edinburgh for Christmas and the remote has just died on me
again. This time it seems that the batteries have been drained as this
is a new remote. Just called the RAC out to get me back on the road.
I take it this is not a common problem with the Coupes?
kaboom wrote:
> On Fri, 23 Dec 2005 13:07:37 -0500, "hyundaitech"
> <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote:
>
> >I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> **Maybe the key fob is screwing up and they have to call the Royal
> Auto Club
>
> just a guess
>
> kaboomie
12-28-2005, 12:39 PM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
The caps fooled me. I thought maybe FOB was some acronym I didn't know.
We usually call them remotes (or transmitters) in the U.S. (Stupid
Americans. Can't speak real English and won't learn other languages.)
Anyway, this isn't a terribly common problem as far as I know. If you
were told it was out of sync, then I suspect the person speaking to you
didn't know the actual problem.
The characteristics of your fob(s) are programmed into the body control
module of your car. If your key fobs were functioning, but stopped, then
there are numerous reasons why this could happen:
1. Dead battery in key fob. If you have an LED, it typically won't
light. In most cases, I've been able to conclusively check the battery
no-load with a voltmeter. It should be about 3v.
2. A problem with the fob itself causing the BCM to not recognize it.
3. A problem with the BCM causing it to either not recognize the fob or
to not take proper action upon receiving proper signal from the fob.
4. Any other problem which would result in the BCM sending signal to
allow vehicle operation, but that signal not reaching the proper modules
and devices (engine control module, door locks, etc.)
Saying they're out of sync leads me to believe the repair facility simply
reprogrammed the fobs into the BCM. If there is a continually occurring
problem which reprogramming solves, I suspect you have a problem in the
BCM. There should be no external action which would cause the BCM to lose
it's memory of the fobs.
We usually call them remotes (or transmitters) in the U.S. (Stupid
Americans. Can't speak real English and won't learn other languages.)
Anyway, this isn't a terribly common problem as far as I know. If you
were told it was out of sync, then I suspect the person speaking to you
didn't know the actual problem.
The characteristics of your fob(s) are programmed into the body control
module of your car. If your key fobs were functioning, but stopped, then
there are numerous reasons why this could happen:
1. Dead battery in key fob. If you have an LED, it typically won't
light. In most cases, I've been able to conclusively check the battery
no-load with a voltmeter. It should be about 3v.
2. A problem with the fob itself causing the BCM to not recognize it.
3. A problem with the BCM causing it to either not recognize the fob or
to not take proper action upon receiving proper signal from the fob.
4. Any other problem which would result in the BCM sending signal to
allow vehicle operation, but that signal not reaching the proper modules
and devices (engine control module, door locks, etc.)
Saying they're out of sync leads me to believe the repair facility simply
reprogrammed the fobs into the BCM. If there is a continually occurring
problem which reprogramming solves, I suspect you have a problem in the
BCM. There should be no external action which would cause the BCM to lose
it's memory of the fobs.
12-28-2005, 12:39 PM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
The caps fooled me. I thought maybe FOB was some acronym I didn't know.
We usually call them remotes (or transmitters) in the U.S. (Stupid
Americans. Can't speak real English and won't learn other languages.)
Anyway, this isn't a terribly common problem as far as I know. If you
were told it was out of sync, then I suspect the person speaking to you
didn't know the actual problem.
The characteristics of your fob(s) are programmed into the body control
module of your car. If your key fobs were functioning, but stopped, then
there are numerous reasons why this could happen:
1. Dead battery in key fob. If you have an LED, it typically won't
light. In most cases, I've been able to conclusively check the battery
no-load with a voltmeter. It should be about 3v.
2. A problem with the fob itself causing the BCM to not recognize it.
3. A problem with the BCM causing it to either not recognize the fob or
to not take proper action upon receiving proper signal from the fob.
4. Any other problem which would result in the BCM sending signal to
allow vehicle operation, but that signal not reaching the proper modules
and devices (engine control module, door locks, etc.)
Saying they're out of sync leads me to believe the repair facility simply
reprogrammed the fobs into the BCM. If there is a continually occurring
problem which reprogramming solves, I suspect you have a problem in the
BCM. There should be no external action which would cause the BCM to lose
it's memory of the fobs.
We usually call them remotes (or transmitters) in the U.S. (Stupid
Americans. Can't speak real English and won't learn other languages.)
Anyway, this isn't a terribly common problem as far as I know. If you
were told it was out of sync, then I suspect the person speaking to you
didn't know the actual problem.
The characteristics of your fob(s) are programmed into the body control
module of your car. If your key fobs were functioning, but stopped, then
there are numerous reasons why this could happen:
1. Dead battery in key fob. If you have an LED, it typically won't
light. In most cases, I've been able to conclusively check the battery
no-load with a voltmeter. It should be about 3v.
2. A problem with the fob itself causing the BCM to not recognize it.
3. A problem with the BCM causing it to either not recognize the fob or
to not take proper action upon receiving proper signal from the fob.
4. Any other problem which would result in the BCM sending signal to
allow vehicle operation, but that signal not reaching the proper modules
and devices (engine control module, door locks, etc.)
Saying they're out of sync leads me to believe the repair facility simply
reprogrammed the fobs into the BCM. If there is a continually occurring
problem which reprogramming solves, I suspect you have a problem in the
BCM. There should be no external action which would cause the BCM to lose
it's memory of the fobs.
12-29-2005, 11:35 PM
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Re: Re: Coupe FOB issue
"" wrote
> I'm not sure what you mean by FOB
The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
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> I'm not sure what you mean by FOB
The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
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Re: Re: Coupe FOB issue
"" wrote
> I'm not sure what you mean by FOB
The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
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> I'm not sure what you mean by FOB
The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
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12-30-2005, 06:49 AM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Reckerfox wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
> may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
> agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
>
As Hyundaitech pointed out, it's "fob", as in "key fob", not "FOB",
which makes it look like an acronym. "RAC" is an acronym.
> "" wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
> may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
> agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
>
As Hyundaitech pointed out, it's "fob", as in "key fob", not "FOB",
which makes it look like an acronym. "RAC" is an acronym.
12-30-2005, 06:49 AM
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Re: Coupe FOB issue
Reckerfox wrote:
> "" wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
> may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
> agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
>
As Hyundaitech pointed out, it's "fob", as in "key fob", not "FOB",
which makes it look like an acronym. "RAC" is an acronym.
> "" wrote:
> > I'm not sure what you mean by FOB.
>
> The FOB is the keyless remote that is used instead of the key. RAC
> may mean Rent A Car which in some parts of New England is a car rental
> agency. At Nissan we use RAC a lot.
>
As Hyundaitech pointed out, it's "fob", as in "key fob", not "FOB",
which makes it look like an acronym. "RAC" is an acronym.
