Determining oil change intervals via analysis
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
> "Stubby" <William.Plummer-NOSPAM-@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
>>To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
>> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
>
>
> I was of the impression that a major overhaul was mandated at so many hours
> running time.. Was it 5,000 hours, or more?
Only if the aircraft is used commercially. The typical TBOs are 1500 -
2000 hours.
Matt
> "Stubby" <William.Plummer-NOSPAM-@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
>
>>To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
>> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
>
>
> I was of the impression that a major overhaul was mandated at so many hours
> running time.. Was it 5,000 hours, or more?
Only if the aircraft is used commercially. The typical TBOs are 1500 -
2000 hours.
Matt
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
#138
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
#139
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
<brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>
>>>HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>
>>>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>
>>>>>Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>
>> it
>>
>>>>>will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>
>>>>Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>er, actually, yes it does.
>>
>>
>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>> expertise in
>> this subject?
>>
>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>
>Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
Faith based car maintenance?
#140
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Stubby wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Stubby wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Stubby wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> With a car, sure I'd just keep on driving it. Oil analysis can't
>> predict with any certainty when an engine will fail. In a airplane,
>> I'd have it torn down and inspected. However, this is much easier
>> than with most cars. A good aircraft mechanic can rebuild the top end
>> of an airplane engine in the time the car mechanic is getting the
>> accessories removed from a modern car.
>
> To rebuild a small airplane engine costs about $20,000 and takes months.
> You don't want to do it unless you have good evidence that it is needed.
Hah. That all depends on how deep your pockets are. I've seen an
engine exchange ($$$$$$) in a commercially-owned single-engine tri-tail
bonanza. Total downtime was 3 days, but they prolly spent $25k on the
job in the mid 90s.
The biggest issue with general aviation aircraft is they're still using
100% manual engine controls. While our cars have advanced greatly in
engine management, airplanes are still dicking around with mixture and
carb heat *****. All it takes is one descent with the mixture **** out
to destroy an engine. Or you run overrich and get crappy economy and
clogged up sparkplugs.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
The Ghost of General Lee wrote:
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
> On Thu, 03 Aug 2006 16:50:02 GMT, Brian Nystrom
> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote:
>
>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>> "jim beam" <nospam@example.net> wrote in message
>>> news:ctmdnT5DGZCWZ0zZnZ2dnUVZ_uidnZ2d@speakeasy.ne t...
>>>
>>>> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>>> news:UglAg.14167$Ju.1048@trndny09...
>>>>> hmmmm.
>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the biggest benefit of UOA is that it proves to people that
>>>>>> oils last much longer than many of them think. With any kind of luck,
>>> it
>>>
>>>>>> will convince people once and for all that changing your oil any more
>>>>>> frequently than the car manufacturer recommends is an unnecessary waste
>>>>>> of a diminishing resource. Any money saved is a secondary benefit.
>>>>> Actually, it doesn't prove that at all.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> er, actually, yes it does.
>>>
>>> If it proves it to you, that is fair enough. What is your background of
>>> expertise in
>>> this subject?
>>>
>>> But it doesnt prove it to me.
>> Well, perhaps you regard ignorance and stubborness as virtues, but I
>> don't. It never ceases to amaze me that people can look at scientific
>> data that refutes their beliefs and just dismiss it because they don't
>> like it. It takes all kinds, I guess...
>
> Faith based car maintenance?
>
sure! beats bothering to actually learn anything.
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Nobody Important wrote:
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Nobody Important wrote:
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
Nobody Important wrote:
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
> HLS@nospam.nix wrote:
>> I would have found it out without an oil analysis, because I replace
>> my air filters regularly. It's cheaper, and less ambiguous, than
>> spending
>> money on an oil analysis and analyst.
>
> In my neck of the woods, air filters need to be replaced only once every
> two years or so; they don't get dirty enough to warrant replacement
> before then. I had replaced mine in Jan 2005 and wasn't due for a
> replacement for another 8 months or so.
Once a year here, sometimes twice. Pine pollen season clogs them up
noticeably every time. Sometimes hay season can do it, too.
On my dodge truck, OTOH, which spends time on sand/silt roads and has
the worlds crappiest air intake design ever (it sucks air right off the
passenger wheel), its about 3x a year and I put about 1/3rd as many
miles on it.
JS
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
So... I take it nobody has seen that this cross posting bastuhd hasn't
replied to his thread????
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>
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Re: Determining oil change intervals via analysis
So... I take it nobody has seen that this cross posting bastuhd hasn't
replied to his thread????
"I'll have spam. spam. spam, spam, baked beans and spam"....
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> http://www.autoblog.com/2006/08/02/d...-via-analysis/
>
replied to his thread????
"I'll have spam. spam. spam, spam, baked beans and spam"....
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