Matt Whiting

Partner wrote:
> You're a smart guy, I'm sure you'll figure it out sooner or later.
>

It is an erroneous statement so it isn't possible to figure it out as I
can't read your mind.

There are false positives and false negatives, Type 1 and 2 failures
also called Type I and II and sometimes called alpha and beta failures,
but there are no positive and negative failures.

Matt

Brian Matthews

On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:24:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
<mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote:

>
>"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message
>news:479eb7e1$0$30036$4c368faf@roadrunner.com.. .
>
>> That's a new 'Feature', to teach people "NOT to leave the keys on the
>> ignition when they get out of the car. This is a major NO-NO, so Hyundai
>> is helping their customers. ;-)
>
>No - you've got it wrong. It's no major NO-NO to leave your keys in the car
>for such things as filling up the tank. That's only for the foolish people
>of the world. It's really the Korean version of a joke. Different sort of
>sense of humor and all...

This reminds me of my father in law. He lives in a very rural area,
while we live in the BIG city. He came down and we had to go to
K-Mart. We were getting out of the car and I noticed he left the keys
in his car. When I mentioned to him that he might want to take his key
out and lock the car up, his response to me was " What if someone
needs to move it?" I actually LMAO!

Brian

Bob Adkins

On Thu, 14 Feb 2008 04:03:23 GMT, Brian Matthews <noonecares@ddd.com>
wrote:


> When I mentioned to him that he might want to take his key
>out and lock the car up, his response to me was " What if someone
>needs to move it?" I actually LMAO!

It's still that way in my parts. Well, not everywhere, but in most
places. Locks are mostly a nuisance, but are being used more and more.
-

Bob

Pit's

On Jan 30, 6:18 am, irwell <h...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 20:02:12 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> >"Pit's" <spamlis...@gmail.com> wrote in message
> >> good idea when at gas stations or any where to get into the habit of
> >> taking the keys with you.Just in case some clown jumps in while you
> >> are paying for the gas Groceries etc etc and takes off on a joy
> >> ride .To me is a good bit of security that the car locks itself when
> >> keys removed yours seem exceptionally touchy though
>
> >I leave the car running while pumping gas and it has not locked on me. In
> >the case of hte OP, it would be good practice to either remove the key or
> >lower a window until some conclusive cause is found.
>
> >As for going inside to pay, thee is a bit of security if you have the proper
> >type of remote starter installed. With mine, I can hit the button on the
> >fob and then remove the key and leave the engine (and AC or heat) running
> >while you do into the store. You can lock hte doors if you want, but putting
> >your foot on the brake without hte key in the "on" position kills
> >everything.
>
> >I really like the remote starter when temperatures are extreme in either
> >direction.
>
> Isn't it breaking the law to leave an unattended vehicle with
> the engine running, either on the highway or a public place?

Sir , it is in so in some parts within the Commonwealth of Australia.
On this key thing -you folk must have pointed the bone at me.
Happened last night when I got in the car !!

The chain of events went like this

1 unlocked the car with the key rather than the remote .
2 Alarm triggered
3 used remote to stop alarm
4 Entered car as normal started car
as reversing the doos locked by themselves ? That has never happened
before ( unless I set the auto lock thing via the arm rest )

This may help hyundai tech track down teh cause.
could it be a sequence within teh chip that controls this function ?
HTH

Pat Thompson

Where's you FIL live? I'd like to move there.

When I was a kid in rural western Wisconsin all the relatives used to leave
their homes unlocked if they were away for less than a day or so. If you
visited, and they weren't home, you could leave a note saying you'd see them
later or whatever.

Unfortunately they don't (can't?) do that anymore. And the politicians tell
you America's best days are still ahead of us if you elect them. Yeah,
right.
"Brian Matthews" <noonecares@ddd.com> wrote in message
news:e6f7r354ujvqpalmcgf37981b5rgf902ns@4ax.com...
> On Tue, 29 Jan 2008 18:24:52 -0500, "Mike Marlow"
> <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote:
>
>>
>>"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message
>>news:479eb7e1$0$30036$4c368faf@roadrunner.com. ..
>>
>>> That's a new 'Feature', to teach people "NOT to leave the keys on the
>>> ignition when they get out of the car. This is a major NO-NO, so Hyundai
>>> is helping their customers. ;-)
>>
>>No - you've got it wrong. It's no major NO-NO to leave your keys in the
>>car
>>for such things as filling up the tank. That's only for the foolish
>>people
>>of the world. It's really the Korean version of a joke. Different sort
>>of
>>sense of humor and all...
>
> This reminds me of my father in law. He lives in a very rural area,
> while we live in the BIG city. He came down and we had to go to
> K-Mart. We were getting out of the car and I noticed he left the keys
> in his car. When I mentioned to him that he might want to take his key
> out and lock the car up, his response to me was " What if someone
> needs to move it?" I actually LMAO!
>
> Brian