Elantra Lawsuit?
 

I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
know about?

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with
> my car I don't know about?


Not to be rude, but read the letter. I hadn't heard about it (my
elantra's older) but read it and let us know, or at least post any links
or case #s so that the rest of us can read it for ourselves.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with
> my car I don't know about?


Not to be rude, but read the letter. I hadn't heard about it (my
elantra's older) but read it and let us know, or at least post any links
or case #s so that the rest of us can read it for ourselves.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com:

> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with
> my car I don't know about?


Not to be rude, but read the letter. I hadn't heard about it (my
elantra's older) but read it and let us know, or at least post any links
or case #s so that the rest of us can read it for ourselves.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com. ..
>I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
>in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
>know about?

It's a Class Action Suit dealing with the Passenger Classification System
for the front passenger seat.

As suggested by the response above mine, read the letter

--
Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100
VZW<BAM<FRONTIER CELLULAR<ROCHESTER TEL. MOBILE
SID 154 EV-DO PRL 50463
SINCE APRIL 1993

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com. ..
>I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
>in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
>know about?

It's a Class Action Suit dealing with the Passenger Classification System
for the front passenger seat.

As suggested by the response above mine, read the letter

--
Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100
VZW<BAM<FRONTIER CELLULAR<ROCHESTER TEL. MOBILE
SID 154 EV-DO PRL 50463
SINCE APRIL 1993

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Joe Hodgenson" <jhodg@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:tiwBf.142235$XC4.135911@twister.nyroc.rr.com. ..
>I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
>in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
>know about?

It's a Class Action Suit dealing with the Passenger Classification System
for the front passenger seat.

As suggested by the response above mine, read the letter

--
Andrew D. Sisson
LG VX8100
VZW<BAM<FRONTIER CELLULAR<ROCHESTER TEL. MOBILE
SID 154 EV-DO PRL 50463
SINCE APRIL 1993

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Joe Hodgenson wrote:
> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
> in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
> know about?

If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
apparently no ideal solution to the issue.

I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
sought in the suit.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Joe Hodgenson wrote:
> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
> in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
> know about?

If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
apparently no ideal solution to the issue.

I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
sought in the suit.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Joe Hodgenson wrote:
> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra owners
> in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my car I don't
> know about?

If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
apparently no ideal solution to the issue.

I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
sought in the suit.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Joe Hodgenson wrote:
>
>> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
>> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my
>> car I don't know about?
>
>
> If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
> passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
> recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
> seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
> problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
> apparently no ideal solution to the issue.
>
> I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
> sought in the suit.

Good for you. I keep wondering when people will wake up and smell the
coffee and realize that the only winners in a class action are the lawyers.


Matt

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Joe Hodgenson wrote:
>
>> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
>> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my
>> car I don't know about?
>
>
> If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
> passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
> recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
> seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
> problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
> apparently no ideal solution to the issue.
>
> I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
> sought in the suit.

Good for you. I keep wondering when people will wake up and smell the
coffee and realize that the only winners in a class action are the lawyers.


Matt

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Joe Hodgenson wrote:
>
>> I got a letter in the mail about a lawsuit for all 2004-2006 Elantra
>> owners in the mail. Whats that all about? Is there a problem with my
>> car I don't know about?
>
>
> If it's the same one I got, it's about a malfunction with the
> passenger's side seat sensor for the airbags. In some cases, it will not
> recognize smaller adults, particularly if they don't sit squarely in the
> seat. Hyundai is offering a re-programming solution, but it may cause
> problems with child seats not being recognized as such. There is
> apparently no ideal solution to the issue.
>
> I plan to object to the exhorbitant 1.2 million dollar attorney's fees
> sought in the suit.

Good for you. I keep wondering when people will wake up and smell the
coffee and realize that the only winners in a class action are the lawyers.


Matt

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

It was an odd letter/agreement.

The lawyers get more than a million dollars.

And you the consumer? Hyundai will reprogram your sensor for free.
Which they have been doing. I think the class action suit specifies a
loaner car during the service. And nothing else that they weren't
already doing - there was a recall that updated the sensor software....

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

It was an odd letter/agreement.

The lawyers get more than a million dollars.

And you the consumer? Hyundai will reprogram your sensor for free.
Which they have been doing. I think the class action suit specifies a
loaner car during the service. And nothing else that they weren't
already doing - there was a recall that updated the sensor software....

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

It was an odd letter/agreement.

The lawyers get more than a million dollars.

And you the consumer? Hyundai will reprogram your sensor for free.
Which they have been doing. I think the class action suit specifies a
loaner car during the service. And nothing else that they weren't
already doing - there was a recall that updated the sensor software....

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: air bag phenomena

I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
bag sensor in Elantras.

Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
had the green arrow).

The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.

The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.

If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).

Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.

Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: air bag phenomena

I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
bag sensor in Elantras.

Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
had the green arrow).

The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.

The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.

If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).

Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.

Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: air bag phenomena

I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
bag sensor in Elantras.

Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
had the green arrow).

The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.

The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.

If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).

Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.

Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or what you
think a lawyer would sound like. Why don't you take your petty pursuits to
a web site, instead of here?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or what you
think a lawyer would sound like. Why don't you take your petty pursuits to
a web site, instead of here?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

You should not run around usenet trying to sound like a lawyer - or what you
think a lawyer would sound like. Why don't you take your petty pursuits to
a web site, instead of here?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Unless the car was equipped with side impact-airbags (I don't think
they're available on the Accent), there shouldn't have been an airbag
deployment in a straight side impact. The frontal airbags do no good in
a side impact and they're designed not deploy in such a situation.

Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
"SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out
clearly in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the
dash that warns you, too. How much notification do people need??? If the
driver was not wearing a seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the
accident prevents him/her from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Unless the car was equipped with side impact-airbags (I don't think
they're available on the Accent), there shouldn't have been an airbag
deployment in a straight side impact. The frontal airbags do no good in
a side impact and they're designed not deploy in such a situation.

Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
"SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out
clearly in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the
dash that warns you, too. How much notification do people need??? If the
driver was not wearing a seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the
accident prevents him/her from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?

Unless the car was equipped with side impact-airbags (I don't think
they're available on the Accent), there shouldn't have been an airbag
deployment in a straight side impact. The frontal airbags do no good in
a side impact and they're designed not deploy in such a situation.

Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
"SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out
clearly in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the
dash that warns you, too. How much notification do people need??? If the
driver was not wearing a seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the
accident prevents him/her from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vqTDf.2436$0J3.463@trndny08...
......

> Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
> "SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
> stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out clearly
> in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the dash that
> warns you, too.

Annoying light???? The '06 Sonata has the most persistent, annoy you to
death buzzer system when you don't put on the seat belts that I have ever
heard in a car.

> How much notification do people need??? If the driver was not wearing a
> seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the accident prevents him/her
> from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vqTDf.2436$0J3.463@trndny08...
......

> Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
> "SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
> stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out clearly
> in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the dash that
> warns you, too.

Annoying light???? The '06 Sonata has the most persistent, annoy you to
death buzzer system when you don't put on the seat belts that I have ever
heard in a car.

> How much notification do people need??? If the driver was not wearing a
> seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the accident prevents him/her
> from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:vqTDf.2436$0J3.463@trndny08...
......

> Seatbelts MUST be worn in airbag-equipped cars. Airbags are not called a
> "SUPPLMENTAL Restraint System" for nothing. There are large, obnoxious
> stickers on the visor to warm people of that and it's spelled out clearly
> in the owner's manual. There's a friggin' annoying light on the dash that
> warns you, too.

Annoying light???? The '06 Sonata has the most persistent, annoy you to
death buzzer system when you don't put on the seat belts that I have ever
heard in a car.

> How much notification do people need??? If the driver was not wearing a
> seatbelt, it would improve the gene pool if the accident prevents him/her
> from reproducing.

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: good answers, all

my inquiries have been addressed adequately

i subscribe to the n.g. sentiment about the legal profession, as a law
school dropout myself

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: good answers, all

my inquiries have been addressed adequately

i subscribe to the n.g. sentiment about the legal profession, as a law
school dropout myself

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: good answers, all

my inquiries have been addressed adequately

i subscribe to the n.g. sentiment about the legal profession, as a law
school dropout myself

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

is the person dead, or were they injured heavily? lil more info would help.
might not been hard enough hit to activate them....
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

is the person dead, or were they injured heavily? lil more info would help.
might not been hard enough hit to activate them....
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

is the person dead, or were they injured heavily? lil more info would help.
might not been hard enough hit to activate them....
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138735940.318431.154030@g47g2000cwa.googlegr oups.com...
> re: air bag phenomena
>
> I am herein soliciting comment in light of alleged problem with air
> bag sensor in Elantras.
>
> Situation: A driver of a 2003 Accent was hit fairly hard (on passenger
> side front headlight/fender) by another car when turning left (Accent
> had the green arrow).
>
> The air-bags in Accent did NOT come-out.
>
> The Accent driver may not have been seat-belt-fastened.
>
> If driver not seat-belted, then the air-bags can't/don't inflate (?).
>
> Please clue-me (give me ideas) about why air-bags did not pop-out.
>
> Is there such a relation between seatbelt & air-bag?
>

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: person's wreck injury

happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
now

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: person's wreck injury

happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
now

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

re: person's wreck injury

happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
now

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

sounds like it wassnt enough force to trigger the bags if thats the only
injuries that happened which is good.
whats there to sue about????
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138834003.051488.63860@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> re: person's wreck injury
>
> happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
> now
>

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

sounds like it wassnt enough force to trigger the bags if thats the only
injuries that happened which is good.
whats there to sue about????
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138834003.051488.63860@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> re: person's wreck injury
>
> happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
> now
>

Re: Elantra Lawsuit?
 

sounds like it wassnt enough force to trigger the bags if thats the only
injuries that happened which is good.
whats there to sue about????
"Robert Cohen" <robtcohen@msn.com> wrote in message
news:1138834003.051488.63860@g47g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
> re: person's wreck injury
>
> happened approx two years ago: got banged on face, bled some, seems ok
> now
>