Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealership necessary for warranty maintenance ?
07-28-2006, 12:29 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealership
You're *never* required to have your car serviced at the dealer. Of
course, if you'd like free warranty service, no other place will be
willing to give you that.
Like Brian said, anyone can change your oil. Furthermore, you're only
*required* to do it every 7500 miles, unless you fall into their severe
usage category. I think this interval is too long, though. My opinion is
you'd be better off if you did it every 3k. But again, you can do that
yourself, or any facility of your choosing can do it for you.
If your dealer has told you that you must use their services to keep your
warranty intact, they are lying-- look for another dealer close by.
course, if you'd like free warranty service, no other place will be
willing to give you that.
Like Brian said, anyone can change your oil. Furthermore, you're only
*required* to do it every 7500 miles, unless you fall into their severe
usage category. I think this interval is too long, though. My opinion is
you'd be better off if you did it every 3k. But again, you can do that
yourself, or any facility of your choosing can do it for you.
If your dealer has told you that you must use their services to keep your
warranty intact, they are lying-- look for another dealer close by.
07-28-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Mike Marlow wrote:
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
07-28-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Mike Marlow wrote:
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
07-28-2006, 04:46 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Mike Marlow wrote:
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
> You can still do your own oil changes without threatening your warranty. If
> you look at the Hyundai owner's manual you will see that nothing in it
> precludes owner maintenance. There are some areas where you either must, or
> you will want to use Hyundai parts but Hyundai does not insist you use any
> authorized dealer for the work.
It has nothing to do with Hyundai. Federal law (the Moss-Magnussen
Warranty Act) stipulates that if a company requires dealer maintenance
or OEM parts, they must be provided free of charge.
07-28-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Partner wrote:
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
07-28-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Partner wrote:
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
07-28-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Partner wrote:
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
> Well, are you going to share with us exactly what or how the oil tells you
> that it wants to be changed(or not!)?
Perhaps he's an "engine whisperer"... ;-)
Unless one has laboratory analysis done on the oil, there's not much you
can tell by looking at it. All oil gets dirty, but that doesn't
necessarily mean that it needs to be changed, it just means that it's
doing its job. People who change their oil more often than necessary
typically do so either because it make them feel good or because "That's
what my dad/uncle/friend/neighbor/mechanic/hairdresser did and his cars
lasted a gazillion miles!" People are just unwilling to allow "the myth
of the 3000 mile oil change" to die the ignoble death it deserves, much
to the amusement and profit of the oil companies.
Considering that car companies test the snot of their products and
they're responsible for the consequences if their oil change intervals
cause problems, there's nothing for them to gain by recommending
intervals that aren't appropriate. THEY know a heck of a lot more about
their engines than we do, so it simply makes sense to follow their
recommendations.
07-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
07-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
07-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>
> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having owned
> it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself now tells me to
> change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
Your oil talks to you?
Matt
07-28-2006, 07:37 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealership necessary for warranty maintenance ?
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
07-28-2006, 07:37 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealership necessary for warranty maintenance ?
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
07-28-2006, 07:37 PM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealership necessary for warranty maintenance ?
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>
>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>
> Your oil talks to you?
Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Eric
07-29-2006, 05:28 AM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>>
>>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>> Your oil talks to you?
>
> Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
> Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Republicans are politicians? I thought you had to be human to be a
politician...
JS
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>>
>>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>> Your oil talks to you?
>
> Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
> Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Republicans are politicians? I thought you had to be human to be a
politician...
JS
07-29-2006, 05:28 AM
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Re: Frequent -3K- mandatory service tro[s tp tej Hyundai dealershipnecessary for warranty maintenance ?
Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>>
>>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>> Your oil talks to you?
>
> Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
> Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Republicans are politicians? I thought you had to be human to be a
politician...
JS
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:Sevyg.60$Db4.3688@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>>> In every car I have ever owned, I have always ended up ignoring the
>>> recommended maintenance frequency when it comes to oil changes.
>>>
>>> I don't do this flippantly. I have an '02 Elantra, and after having
>>> owned it for six months, and about two oil changes, the oil itself
>>> now tells me to change it every 6000 miles (I always use synthetic).
>> Your oil talks to you?
>
> Matt, he is a Reverand. I guess it is the Church of the Fossil Fuels :-)
> Oh wait, that would make him a US politician, I mean a Republican :-P
Republicans are politicians? I thought you had to be human to be a
politician...
JS