Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
04-12-2006, 05:48 PM
#31
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
Nice points, John. I usually check for brakes dragging by coasting to a
stop in neutral on a slight upward incline. The vehicle should smoothly
reach a stop and begin rolling backward-- it should not jerk when the stop
is reached.
The chances of getting a shop to put the vehicle on the front end rack to
check alignment (without ponying up at least an authorization for the
typical alignment charges) are small. Hyundai won't pay for the alignment
if the values are within spec, so the dealer will be looking to charge the
customer for their effort if there's no problem. Look for front or rear
tires wearing on either the inside edges or outside edges and make sure
the steering wheel is centered. Either the wear or the steering wheel
issue indicate a likely alignment problem, but absence of these issues
(especially on a new vehicle where tire age is minimal) doesn't mean there
isn't a problem with the alignment.
stop in neutral on a slight upward incline. The vehicle should smoothly
reach a stop and begin rolling backward-- it should not jerk when the stop
is reached.
The chances of getting a shop to put the vehicle on the front end rack to
check alignment (without ponying up at least an authorization for the
typical alignment charges) are small. Hyundai won't pay for the alignment
if the values are within spec, so the dealer will be looking to charge the
customer for their effort if there's no problem. Look for front or rear
tires wearing on either the inside edges or outside edges and make sure
the steering wheel is centered. Either the wear or the steering wheel
issue indicate a likely alignment problem, but absence of these issues
(especially on a new vehicle where tire age is minimal) doesn't mean there
isn't a problem with the alignment.
04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
hyundaitech wrote:
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
#33
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
hyundaitech wrote:
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
04-12-2006, 10:26 PM
#34
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
hyundaitech wrote:
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
> Scientifically speaking, the more fuel used, the less error will be
> introduced by filling variances. I.e.-- there's a significantly larger
> amount of fuel used than the difference in how full the tank is based on
> differences in auto shutoff, vehicle slope, and other factors.
True, if you are only checking that one tank. However, checking one
tank isn't statistically significant to begin with so making an
untrustworthy number just slightly less untrustworthy isn't really
meaningful.
> But you're correct on taking several samples, regardless of amount of fuel
> at fill-up. This will minimize error as well as make aberrant values stand
> out.
And when you do this, don't calculate each tank separately and then
average them as that isn't legitimate either. Add up the total gallons
consumed and divide that into the total miles traveled across all tanks,
being sure that your first mileage point was a full tank. Do this for
five or more consecutive fill-ups and you will get a reasonable estimate
for average fuel economy during that time.
Matt
04-14-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
No, I don't. I try to get up to speed as quickly as practical, given what
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144861722.432983.232360@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
04-14-2006, 07:15 PM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
No, I don't. I try to get up to speed as quickly as practical, given what
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144861722.432983.232360@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144861722.432983.232360@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
04-14-2006, 07:15 PM
#37
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
No, I don't. I try to get up to speed as quickly as practical, given what
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144861722.432983.232360@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
traffic is doing. About 80% of my driving is in the city, where the limit
is usually 35 mph, the rest on the freeway. My previous vehicles delivered
EPA or better until they were very old. I am not the type to jump out at
red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
figures.
Judy
"bo peep" <cowartmisc1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1144861722.432983.232360@v46g2000cwv.googlegr oups.com...
> <<Does anyone have any thoughts?>>
>
> Are you one of those people who "rides" the brakes? Just wondering...
>
> John Cowart
>
04-15-2006, 01:04 AM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
Judith Raskin wrote:
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-15-2006, 01:04 AM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
Judith Raskin wrote:
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-15-2006, 01:04 AM
#40
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
Judith Raskin wrote:
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the EPA
> figures.
After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong
for you to get 10 mpg.
As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech
says the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the
plugs is an independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is
getting too much fuel. See
http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case
then you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data
is wrong.
If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as
caused by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with
their stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag.
Is yours a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-16-2006, 02:51 PM
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
Thank you again, I will go to that website. As for a stability control
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-16-2006, 02:51 PM
#42
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Thank you again, I will go to that website. As for a stability control
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-16-2006, 02:51 PM
#43
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Thank you again, I will go to that website. As for a stability control
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
recall, I have not heard a word. One of the first things I did when I got
this car is registered online with Hyundai; I figured it was a way to get
word on such things quickly. But I have never had a message of any kind.
Mail, email, smoke signals or semaphore!
Judy Raskin
"Folsom Inmate" <aintgotone@noway.net> wrote in message
news:r9%%f.10976$4L1.9151@newssvr11.news.prodigy.c om...
> Judith Raskin wrote:
>> red lights or try to beat the light; it's a waste of time. I am plain
>> disappointed that this car is not deliverying mileage anywhere near the
>> EPA figures.
>
> After reading more of the thread I still think there's something wrong for
> you to get 10 mpg.
>
> As I mentioned in my prior post, I'd check the spark plugs. The tech says
> the computer says everything is OK. A visual inspection of the plugs is an
> independent check. The plugs tell you if the engine is getting too much
> fuel. See
>
> http://www.sa750.com/plugs/plugs.htm
>
> If the plugs look like the first case, then that verifies the engine is
> getting the proper amount of fuel. If they look like the second case then
> you know the fuel system has a problem and the tech's computer data is
> wrong.
>
> If the plugs look normal, then maybe a brake is dragging -- such as caused
> by the stability control recall. 2005 models have a problem with their
> stability control, causing engine power loss and a brake to drag. Is yours
> a 2005 and has the recall been serviced?
>
> I'd keep after the service manager. In this era of $3 gas, there's no
> reason to accept 10 mpg. Good luck!
04-17-2006, 08:06 AM
#44
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Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
There are two recalls to reprogram the Stability Control (ESP) on 2005
Tucsons. The first is only for vehicles produced prior to 2/27/05 and
reduces system sensitivity. (Unofficially, I've heard that it could
activate at speeds of a few miles an hour, but I have no verification of
this.) The second applies to all 2005 Tucsons and makes the ESP more
active during "extreme driving conditions." It's possible the dealer
performed either or both recalls before you received the notice and you
weren't aware they did it. But I expect zero correlation with fuel
economy. In the first case, we're talking about infrequent erroneous
application at very low speeds, and in the second, we're talking about
conditions under which you're not likely to be driving the vehicle.
If you'd like to post your VIN, I'll run it and check for recalls.
Tucsons. The first is only for vehicles produced prior to 2/27/05 and
reduces system sensitivity. (Unofficially, I've heard that it could
activate at speeds of a few miles an hour, but I have no verification of
this.) The second applies to all 2005 Tucsons and makes the ESP more
active during "extreme driving conditions." It's possible the dealer
performed either or both recalls before you received the notice and you
weren't aware they did it. But I expect zero correlation with fuel
economy. In the first case, we're talking about infrequent erroneous
application at very low speeds, and in the second, we're talking about
conditions under which you're not likely to be driving the vehicle.
If you'd like to post your VIN, I'll run it and check for recalls.
04-17-2006, 08:06 AM
#45
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Posts: n/a
Re: Fuel consumption - 2005 Tucson
There are two recalls to reprogram the Stability Control (ESP) on 2005
Tucsons. The first is only for vehicles produced prior to 2/27/05 and
reduces system sensitivity. (Unofficially, I've heard that it could
activate at speeds of a few miles an hour, but I have no verification of
this.) The second applies to all 2005 Tucsons and makes the ESP more
active during "extreme driving conditions." It's possible the dealer
performed either or both recalls before you received the notice and you
weren't aware they did it. But I expect zero correlation with fuel
economy. In the first case, we're talking about infrequent erroneous
application at very low speeds, and in the second, we're talking about
conditions under which you're not likely to be driving the vehicle.
If you'd like to post your VIN, I'll run it and check for recalls.
Tucsons. The first is only for vehicles produced prior to 2/27/05 and
reduces system sensitivity. (Unofficially, I've heard that it could
activate at speeds of a few miles an hour, but I have no verification of
this.) The second applies to all 2005 Tucsons and makes the ESP more
active during "extreme driving conditions." It's possible the dealer
performed either or both recalls before you received the notice and you
weren't aware they did it. But I expect zero correlation with fuel
economy. In the first case, we're talking about infrequent erroneous
application at very low speeds, and in the second, we're talking about
conditions under which you're not likely to be driving the vehicle.
If you'd like to post your VIN, I'll run it and check for recalls.