"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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>
> If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
> still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
> of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
> can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
> that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
> relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
> good shape for their age and mileage.
>

Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a lot
of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so they
go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade anyway.
But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>
> >
> > If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
> > still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
> > of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
> > can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
> > that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
> > relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
> > good shape for their age and mileage.
> >
>
> Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
lot
> of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
they
> go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
anyway.
> But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
> dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
doesn't care how much money they are spending.

Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>
> >
> > If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
> > still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
> > of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
> > can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
> > that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
> > relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
> > good shape for their age and mileage.
> >
>
> Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
lot
> of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
they
> go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
anyway.
> But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
> dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
doesn't care how much money they are spending.

Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

 

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:8b3a$446fc843$45289739$4946@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>
> >
> > If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
> > still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
> > of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
> > can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
> > that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
> > relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
> > good shape for their age and mileage.
> >
>
> Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
lot
> of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
they
> go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
anyway.
> But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
> dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>
>

The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
doesn't care how much money they are spending.

Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

 

Paradox wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:8b3a$446fc843$45289739$4946@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>
>>>If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
>>>still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
>>>of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
>>>can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
>>>that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
>>>relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
>>>good shape for their age and mileage.
>>>
>>
>>Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
>
> lot
>
>>of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
>
> they
>
>>go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
>
> anyway.
>
>>But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
>>dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
> who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
> years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
> doesn't care how much money they are spending.

What? Whether you care about the money or not doesn't change how much
you lose.


> Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
> skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
> having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
> changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

Those who skip transmission flushes are just skipping getting ripped off
for an unnecessary service. Nothing wrong with that. Now skipping oil
changes is a different matter... Though most folks I know who own
expensive cars take them back to the dealer for service so, assuming the
dealer is competent and conscientious, those cars are probably very well
maintained.


Matt

 

Paradox wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:8b3a$446fc843$45289739$4946@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>
>>>If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
>>>still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
>>>of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
>>>can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
>>>that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
>>>relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
>>>good shape for their age and mileage.
>>>
>>
>>Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
>
> lot
>
>>of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
>
> they
>
>>go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
>
> anyway.
>
>>But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
>>dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
> who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
> years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
> doesn't care how much money they are spending.

What? Whether you care about the money or not doesn't change how much
you lose.


> Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
> skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
> having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
> changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

Those who skip transmission flushes are just skipping getting ripped off
for an unnecessary service. Nothing wrong with that. Now skipping oil
changes is a different matter... Though most folks I know who own
expensive cars take them back to the dealer for service so, assuming the
dealer is competent and conscientious, those cars are probably very well
maintained.


Matt

 

Paradox wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:8b3a$446fc843$45289739$4946@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>news:iCPbg.8926$lb.809803@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>
>>>If you can get a dealer to give you that price for your trade-in and
>>>still give you a price well below sticker, then you are doing a good job
>>>of negotiating. I've found I can get a great deal on a new car, or I
>>>can trade in my old car, but it is hard to do both. The good thing is
>>>that I've never had any problem selling my old cars privately. Usually
>>>relatives but them as I maintain them well and they are usually in very
>>>good shape for their age and mileage.
>>>
>>
>>Absolutely valid point Matt. Like you, I seldom trade. My cars have a
>
> lot
>
>>of life left in them at over 200,000 miles and they still look good, so
>
> they
>
>>go to someone who can use them. They wouldn't bring squat for trade
>
> anyway.
>
>>But you're right - you're typically only going to get one thing from a
>>dealer - a decent trade in value or a decent negotiated price.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>>
>
>
> The people who spend $15000 on a hyundai have more to lose then the person
> who spends $30000 on an infiniti/lexus/acura when they trade it in every 2-3
> years, simply because the person buying the higher priced car ussually
> doesn't care how much money they are spending.

What? Whether you care about the money or not doesn't change how much
you lose.


> Then there are those people that stretch to afford the $30000 car, and then
> skimp on maintenance and insurance and either end up wrecking their car and
> having to scrape to get the deductable together, or skip every few oil
> changes, transmissions flushes, etc...

Those who skip transmission flushes are just skipping getting ripped off
for an unnecessary service. Nothing wrong with that. Now skipping oil
changes is a different matter... Though most folks I know who own
expensive cars take them back to the dealer for service so, assuming the
dealer is competent and conscientious, those cars are probably very well
maintained.


Matt