Hosing off engine bay
05-16-2006, 06:23 AM
#16
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Matt
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Matt
05-16-2006, 07:46 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
05-16-2006, 07:46 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
05-16-2006, 07:46 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:wz2ag.2153$pI5.1468@trndny05...
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>
>
> Bullshit Brian. You've never seen me post anything that was alarmist.
Well, you did so this time.
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>
>>It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>
>
> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and consider it
> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not quite
> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
> suggest? Yes.
Who said anything about "blasting"???
The original question was about "hosing off" the engine bay. As I said,
I've done so hundreds of times and have NEVER, repeat NEVER had any
problems with alternators or water in intakes. If an alternator couldn't
handle a little water, it would never survive in an engine bay. While
it's true that you don't want to SUBMERGE an alternator, a little spray
from the outside is no problem.
The only time I've ever seen ANY problems from rinsing off an engine
were in cases of degraded spark plug leads or a cracked distributor
caps. Rinsing an engine while it's running is a good way to diagnose
moisture related problems such as that.
05-16-2006, 07:47 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
05-16-2006, 07:47 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
05-16-2006, 07:47 AM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>
>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>
>>
>>
>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>> consider it
>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just not
>> quite
>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>> suggest? Yes.
>
>
> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling off
> the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning and able
> to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
05-16-2006, 12:34 PM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
05-16-2006, 12:34 PM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
05-16-2006, 12:34 PM
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
wrote:
>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>
>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
Then it happened.
I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
hood open.
Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
converter.
It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
the car didn't burn down.
--
Bob
05-16-2006, 04:04 PM
#26
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
05-16-2006, 04:04 PM
#27
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
05-16-2006, 04:04 PM
#28
Guest
Posts: n/a
Re: Hosing off engine bay
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
> On Mon, 15 May 2006 17:07:40 GMT, Brian Nystrom <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>THE SKY IS FALLING, THE SKY IS FALLING!
>>
>>Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe.
>
>
> I have had good luck with a pressure washer. I was always careful not to
> blast the distributor, alternator, and harness plugs. I would do it with the
> engine very warm, but not hot. When I could barely hold my hand on the
> hottest part (probably the exhaust manifold) I would start washing.
>
> Then it happened.
>
> I washed my Mazda 626 engine, being careful as always.
>
> Engine wouldn't start. Using an air compressor and paper towels, I carefully
> dried out the distributor and all the plug wires.
>
> It started, but it ran rough. I ran it a while to heart it up, and left the
> hood open.
>
> Came back in 3 hours, it started but ran a bit rough. I let it run for about
> 10 minutes, and saw smoke. The cat converter was RED HOT. That was
> obviously caused by the miss, as raw fuel from a dead cylinder got into the
> converter.
>
> It took me another 2 hours to get it dried out completely, and I'm lucky
> the car didn't burn down.
Hyundais don't have distributors anymore. Problem solved.
Regardless, I would never let a rough-running engine run that long for
any reason, whether I had just rinsed the engine bay or not.
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
#29
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Re: Hosing off engine bay
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>>
>>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>>> consider it
>>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just
>>> not quite
>>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>>> suggest? Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling
>> off the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning
>> and able to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
>
>
> Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
I say it is. Call up an alternator manufacturer and ask them.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>>
>>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>>> consider it
>>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just
>>> not quite
>>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>>> suggest? Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling
>> off the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning
>> and able to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
>
>
> Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
I say it is. Call up an alternator manufacturer and ask them.
Matt
05-16-2006, 04:50 PM
#30
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Posts: n/a
Re: Hosing off engine bay
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>>
>>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>>> consider it
>>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just
>>> not quite
>>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>>> suggest? Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling
>> off the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning
>> and able to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
>
>
> Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
I say it is. Call up an alternator manufacturer and ask them.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>>
>>>> Give me a break, Mike. What's with all this alarmist nonsense? I hose
>>>> off engines all the time and NEVER have the problems you describe. Any
>>>> water that gets into the alternator drains right out the bottom. You'd
>>>> really have to try hard to get enough water to cause a problem into the
>>>> intake while simply rinsing the engine bay. If you're really worried
>>>> about such silliness, rinse the engine bay with the engine running. Any
>>>> water that hits the alternator will be spun right out and any fine mist
>>>> that gets into the intake will go right through the engine. It's
>>>> completely unnecessary, but maybe it will make you feel better.
>>>>
>>>> It never ceases to amaze me what some people get worked up about.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Well then, I guess it amazes me at what some people will do and
>>> consider it
>>> not to be problematic. I too hose my engine compartments but just
>>> not quite
>>> the way you do. Have I seen problems from people blasting them as you
>>> suggest? Yes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Yes, hosing down an alternator that isn't spinning and able to sling
>> off the water is a very bad idea. Hosing down one that is spinning
>> and able to sling of water is just a bad idea. :-)
>
>
> Sorry Matt, but that's just plain wrong. It's not a problem at all.
I say it is. Call up an alternator manufacturer and ask them.
Matt
