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mike3 07-16-2009 12:05 AM

Hyundai car making strange noise
 
Hi.

We have a Hyundai Accent GS car (2001) that's been making this bizarre
"clicking" or "creaking" noise while driving it. I recorded a sample
here:

http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2md3oydznvm

There's two instances of the noise in this clip starting at about 0.8
and 2.3 seconds. You may have to turn up the volume a little and
listen close as it seems to have gotten more drowned out in the
recording than it is when listening with the ear.

What could be causing this? It sounds like it's coming from the front
passenger quadrant of the car, maybe the wheel area, but I'm not sure.

MasterBlaster 07-16-2009 12:53 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" wrote:

> We have a Hyundai Accent GS car (2001) that's been making this bizarre
> "clicking" or "creaking" noise while driving it. I recorded a sample
> here:
>
> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2md3oydznvm


It's from the enginetrannysuspensionbodyhoodaxlebrakestrutdoohic key.
Don't worry, all Hyundais do that.

Actually, it's almost impossible to tell what the noise is just from a recording.
I'd have to actually drive the car at different speeds, over different terrain
(smooth, bumpy, rough, etc), speeding up, slowing down, turning left, right,
braking and so on.... to try and narrow it down to the most likely causes.
Then it's back to the shop, up on the hoist, and start prying and twisting parts
to pinpoint the noise.



mike3 07-16-2009 02:57 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 15, 10:53 pm, "MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.H...@My.Place> wrote:
> "mike3" wrote:
> > We have a Hyundai Accent GS car (2001) that's been making this bizarre
> > "clicking" or "creaking" noise while driving it. I recorded a sample
> > here:

>
> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2md3oydznvm

>
> It's from the enginetrannysuspensionbodyhoodaxlebrakestrutdoohic key.
> Don't worry, all Hyundais do that.
>
> Actually, it's almost impossible to tell what the noise is just from a recording.
> I'd have to actually drive the car at different speeds, over differentterrain
> (smooth, bumpy, rough, etc), speeding up, slowing down, turning left, right,
> braking and so on.... to try and narrow it down to the most likely causes.
> Then it's back to the shop, up on the hoist, and start prying and twisting parts
> to pinpoint the noise.


And that's the rub. It doesn't seem to correlate with anything
specifically... it
happens on smooth roads, rough roads, at different speeds...

jim 07-16-2009 04:29 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
Does your accent have hub caps?


"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:b0eb1d85-bba9-4da5-a5f1-4c0414919b0f@b14g2000yqd.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 15, 10:53 pm, "MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.H...@My.Place> wrote:
> "mike3" wrote:
> > We have a Hyundai Accent GS car (2001) that's been making this bizarre
> > "clicking" or "creaking" noise while driving it. I recorded a sample
> > here:

>
> >http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2md3oydznvm

>
> It's from the enginetrannysuspensionbodyhoodaxlebrakestrutdoohic key.
> Don't worry, all Hyundais do that.
>
> Actually, it's almost impossible to tell what the noise is just from a
> recording.
> I'd have to actually drive the car at different speeds, over different
> terrain
> (smooth, bumpy, rough, etc), speeding up, slowing down, turning left,
> right,
> braking and so on.... to try and narrow it down to the most likely causes.
> Then it's back to the shop, up on the hoist, and start prying and twisting
> parts
> to pinpoint the noise.


And that's the rub. It doesn't seem to correlate with anything
specifically... it
happens on smooth roads, rough roads, at different speeds...



mike3 07-16-2009 05:13 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> Does your accent have hub caps?
>


Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
generating
the sound.

Nicholas 07-16-2009 05:15 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

My diagnosis:

If it didn't make strange noises, it wouldn't be a Hyundai

As long as the wheels turn in the proper direction when you want them
to...you're getting your money's worth.

Nick


Ed Pawlowski 07-16-2009 05:16 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:91f90d12-b5ea-4f81-9fe4-c6c342ff1e80@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> Does your accent have hub caps?
>


Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
generating
the sound.

***********************************************

I've had cars years ago that had sounds from poor fitting caps. They do
move when the weight is shifted or the wheel is turned and stressed. Be
sure they are on tight.



jim 07-16-2009 05:20 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
I have had cars with hub caps that somehow got a small stone in them. That
would describe the noise you describe.

Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.

Jim
"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:91f90d12-b5ea-4f81-9fe4-c6c342ff1e80@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> Does your accent have hub caps?
>


Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
generating
the sound.



jim 07-16-2009 05:22 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
In Fact remove the caps and see if noise disappears.


"jim" <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote in message
news:BbudnfF7XL0LBMLXnZ2dnUVZ_sednZ2d@earthlink.co m...
>I have had cars with hub caps that somehow got a small stone in them. That
>would describe the noise you describe.
>
> Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.
>
> Jim
> "mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:91f90d12-b5ea-4f81-9fe4-c6c342ff1e80@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>> Does your accent have hub caps?
>>

>
> Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
> generating
> the sound.
>




mike3 07-16-2009 09:20 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 16, 3:20 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> I have had cars with hub caps that somehow got a small stone in them. That
> would describe the noise you describe.
>


You can listen to the recording I provided. Did you do that?

> Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.
>


Well they don't seem to be loose.

> Jim"mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:91f90d12-b5ea-4f81-9fe4-c6c342ff1e80@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > Does your accent have hub caps?

>
> Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
> generating
> the sound.



Ed Pawlowski 07-16-2009 09:52 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.
>


Well they don't seem to be loose.

************************************************** ******

Many things are not as they seem. You asked for help, you were given
suggestions from real life experiences, you don't thing they are viable. I
can't speak for the others, but I don't care if the car screams, clangs, or
whistles.



jim 07-16-2009 11:53 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
Sorry Mike, I also subscribe to the alt.support.hardofhearing newsgroup, so
no, I did not listen to the recording. Wouldnt do me any good without
closed captioning.

Just trying to assist here. I suggested you remove the hub caps and see if
the noise disappears, if not then I can be of no further help to you.

Jim
"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:ab187936-2097-4eb6-a3c0-c0ab0cd61396@h18g2000yqj.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 16, 3:20 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> I have had cars with hub caps that somehow got a small stone in them. That
> would describe the noise you describe.
>


You can listen to the recording I provided. Did you do that?

> Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.
>


Well they don't seem to be loose.

> Jim"mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:91f90d12-b5ea-4f81-9fe4-c6c342ff1e80@c36g2000yqn.googlegroups.com...
> On Jul 16, 2:29 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> > Does your accent have hub caps?

>
> Yes it does have hub caps, but I'm not sure how that would be
> generating
> the sound.




mike3 07-17-2009 02:49 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 16, 7:52 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > Also as said by someone else - be sure they are on tight.

>
> Well they don't seem to be loose.
>
> ************************************************** ******
>
> Many things are not as they seem. You asked for help, you were given
> suggestions from real life experiences, you don't thing they are viable. I
> can't speak for the others, but I don't care if the car screams, clangs, or
> whistles.


If I didn't think it viable, I wouldn't have even bothered to look at
it. What
exactly am I supposed to be looking for? I tried wiggling it with my
hand and I didn't notice anything weird about it. If I didn't think
the
suggestion viable, then I wouldn't have done that. If my "test" was
done
wrong, then how should I test it right?

Ed Pawlowski 07-17-2009 05:50 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message If I didn't think it viable, I
wouldn't have even bothered to look at
it. What
exactly am I supposed to be looking for? I tried wiggling it with my
hand and I didn't notice anything weird about it. If I didn't think
the
suggestion viable, then I wouldn't have done that. If my "test" was
done
wrong, then how should I test it right?

************************************************** *

Take them off and see if you have the noise.



Nicholas 07-17-2009 08:13 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 05:50:13 -0400, "Ed Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message If I didn't think it viable, I
>wouldn't have even bothered to look at
>it. What
>exactly am I supposed to be looking for? I tried wiggling it with my
>hand and I didn't notice anything weird about it. If I didn't think
>the
>suggestion viable, then I wouldn't have done that. If my "test" was
>done
>wrong, then how should I test it right?


some people should take the bus.

TAKE THE HUBCAPS OFF! Can you do that??? Then, DO IT and report back
here if the *noise* went away.

Thanks a lot.

Nick

>
>************************************************* **
>
>Take them off and see if you have the noise.
>



mike3 07-17-2009 02:14 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 17, 3:50 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message If I didn't think it viable, I
>
> wouldn't have even bothered to look at
> it. What
> exactly am I supposed to be looking for? I tried wiggling it with my
> hand and I didn't notice anything weird about it. If I didn't think
> the
> suggestion viable, then I wouldn't have done that. If my "test" was
> done
> wrong, then how should I test it right?
>
> ************************************************** *
>
> Take them off and see if you have the noise.


Well yeah, but I thought the first check would be to feel if they're
loose.
If they don't feel loose... But I could still give it a try anyway.

jim 07-17-2009 04:00 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
Why is this such a problem Mike?

There could be a small rock in one of them too.

Geez

Jim
"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:63033c1a-072f-4593-b481-ab384d49bb0c@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
On Jul 17, 3:50 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message If I didn't think it viable,
> I
>
> wouldn't have even bothered to look at
> it. What
> exactly am I supposed to be looking for? I tried wiggling it with my
> hand and I didn't notice anything weird about it. If I didn't think
> the
> suggestion viable, then I wouldn't have done that. If my "test" was
> done
> wrong, then how should I test it right?
>
> ************************************************** *
>
> Take them off and see if you have the noise.


Well yeah, but I thought the first check would be to feel if they're
loose.
If they don't feel loose... But I could still give it a try anyway.



Vic Smith 07-17-2009 04:23 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
<jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>Why is this such a problem Mike?
>
>There could be a small rock in one of them too.
>

A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
Won't hurt to look.
But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

--Vic

jim 07-17-2009 05:24 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>>Why is this such a problem Mike?
>>
>>There could be a small rock in one of them too.
>>

> A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
> his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
> insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> Won't hurt to look.
> But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.
>
> --Vic


I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
try the easiest and cheapest fix first?




Vic Smith 07-17-2009 05:54 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:24:15 -0400, "jim"
<jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
>"Vic Smith" <thismailautodeleted@comcast.net> wrote in message
>news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com.. .
>> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
>> <jwhite18816@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>>
>>>Why is this such a problem Mike?
>>>
>>>There could be a small rock in one of them too.
>>>

>> A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
>> if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
>> his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
>> insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
>> Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
>> would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
>> He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
>> hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
>> I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
>> and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
>> Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
>> He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
>> I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
>> Won't hurt to look.
>> But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
>> something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
>> Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.
>>
>> --Vic

>
>I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
>try the easiest and cheapest fix first?
>

I said it wouldn't hurt. I listened to the sound file and didn't hear
anything really. So my advice is to provide a better sound file or
take it somebody who can figure it out.
Never heard a noise that can't be located pretty quickly.
For lower speed stuff running alongside the car can
help pin it down quick.
I like the recorder idea. Might tape it to different parts of the
suspension and the louder it gets the closer you are.
Or a good front end man and a rack might tell the tale real fast.
But I have absolutely no idea what the noise sounds like so I
can't recommend anything beyond what I said.

--Vic


mike3 07-18-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 17, 3:24 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> "Vic Smith" <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote in message
>
> news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com...
>
>
>
> > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> > <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> >>Why is this such a problem Mike?

>
> >>There could be a small rock in one of them too.

>
> > A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> > if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
> > his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
> > insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> > Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> > would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> > He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> > hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> > I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> > and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> > Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> > He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> > I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> > Won't hurt to look.
> > But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> > something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> > Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

>
> > --Vic

>
> I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you wantto
> try the easiest and cheapest fix first?


I suppose, but these hubcaps have big holes in them, so I'm not sure
how something
could get caught in there, move around a lot, and not come out.
Furthermore, there is
more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
would just be a
waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
idling. When
it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
correlation with putting it
into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
happen constantly
when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
shifting it's only like
I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
the same
frequency.).

mike3 07-18-2009 02:25 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 17, 3:54 pm, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 17:24:15 -0400, "jim"
>
>
>
> <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
> >"Vic Smith" <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote in message
> >news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com.. .
> >> On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> >> <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> >>>Why is this such a problem Mike?

>
> >>>There could be a small rock in one of them too.

>
> >> A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> >> if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
> >> his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
> >> insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> >> Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> >> would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> >> He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> >> hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> >> I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> >> and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> >> Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> >> He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> >> I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> >> Won't hurt to look.
> >> But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> >> something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> >> Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

>
> >> --Vic

>
> >I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
> >try the easiest and cheapest fix first?

>
> I said it wouldn't hurt. I listened to the sound file and didn't hear
> anything really.


You need to turn it up and listen close at the times I mentioned. It's
a
fast clicking noise. I know, there's a lot of normal noise (engine
running,
road sound, etc.) in front of it. It's easier to hear when you're
really in the
car than in the recording.

> So my advice is to provide a better sound file or
> take it somebody who can figure it out.
> Never heard a noise that can't be located pretty quickly.
> For lower speed stuff running alongside the car can
> help pin it down quick.
> I like the recorder idea. Might tape it to different parts of the
> suspension and the louder it gets the closer you are.
> Or a good front end man and a rack might tell the tale real fast.
> But I have absolutely no idea what the noise sounds like so I
> can't recommend anything beyond what I said.
>
> --Vic



mike3 07-18-2009 02:28 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 18, 12:25 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 17, 3:24 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>
> >news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com.. .

>
> > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> > > <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> > >>Why is this such a problem Mike?

>
> > >>There could be a small rock in one of them too.

>
> > > A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> > > if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
> > > his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car.. He
> > > insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> > > Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> > > would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> > > He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> > > hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> > > I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> > > and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> > > Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> > > He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> > > I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> > > Won't hurt to look.
> > > But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> > > something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> > > Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

>
> > > --Vic

>
> > I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
> > try the easiest and cheapest fix first?

>
> I suppose, but these hubcaps have big holes in them, so I'm not sure
> how something
> could get caught in there, move around a lot, and not come out.
> Furthermore, there is
> more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
> would just be a
> waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
> idling. When
> it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
> correlation with putting it
> into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
> happen constantly
> when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
> shifting it's only like
> I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
> the same
> frequency.).


And it also doesn't always happen when changing gears, either. But
sometimes
it's been heard it at those times.

Toyota MDT in MO 07-18-2009 03:55 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 18, 1:28 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 18, 12:25 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 17, 3:24 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> > > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>
> > >news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com.. .

>
> > > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> > > > <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> > > >>Why is this such a problem Mike?

>
> > > >>There could be a small rock in one of them too.

>
> > > > A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> > > > if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem" with
> > > > his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nice car. He
> > > > insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> > > > Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> > > > would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> > > > He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> > > > hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> > > > I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> > > > and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> > > > Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> > > > He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> > > > I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> > > > Won't hurt to look.
> > > > But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> > > > something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> > > > Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

>
> > > > --Vic

>
> > > I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
> > > try the easiest and cheapest fix first?

>
> > I suppose, but these hubcaps have big holes in them, so I'm not sure
> > how something
> > could get caught in there, move around a lot, and not come out.
> > Furthermore, there is
> > more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
> > would just be a
> > waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
> > idling. When
> > it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
> > correlation with putting it
> > into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
> > happen constantly
> > when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
> > shifting it's only like
> > I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
> > the same
> > frequency.).

>
> And it also doesn't always happen when changing gears, either. But
> sometimes
> it's been heard it at those times.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -


Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.

Toyota MDT in MO

Steve W. 07-18-2009 06:46 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
Toyota MDT in MO wrote:

> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.
>
> Toyota MDT in MO


I'm thinking it's a sticky caliper. Just did another set of rear discs
on a GM with STUCK glides.

Anyone have a better lube for them? The stuff I'm using now is a
silicone based grease made for the pins but it still doesn't last that long.
The current method is to clean (or replace them if pitted) the pins. use
a dowel to clean out the bores (a .30 caliber gun brush works REAL well)
then solvent flush and air dry. Then a generous helping of lube and
install the pins. Then a light coat of sealer inside the boot to lock it
to the caliper mount and to the pin. I would think that water/air
wouldn't be getting in there but I still get a couple that stick.

--
Steve W.

Nicholas 07-18-2009 07:46 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 18:46:26 -0400, "Steve W." <csr684@NOTyahoo.com>
wrote:

>Toyota MDT in MO wrote:
>
>> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
>> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
>> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.
>>
>> Toyota MDT in MO

>
>I'm thinking it's a sticky caliper. Just did another set of rear discs
>on a GM with STUCK glides.
>
>Anyone have a better lube for them?


I got some black stuff in little clear plastic tubes; can't remember
name...too lazy to dig through my *kit* but for giggles, couldn't you
just squeeze some silver-colored anti-seize into the pin guides? The
same stuff we use on spark plugs. Takes the heat, just can't say how
long it would stay where it should. Then in 30 days or so, see if you
still have play in the calipers...maybe use a screwdriver to test, but
remember the pads need to be compressed first. So have to remove
wheel and tire to do that. Just an idea if you've got the time.

Nick


> The stuff I'm using now is a
>silicone based grease made for the pins but it still doesn't last that long.
>The current method is to clean (or replace them if pitted) the pins. use
>a dowel to clean out the bores (a .30 caliber gun brush works REAL well)
>then solvent flush and air dry. Then a generous helping of lube and
>install the pins. Then a light coat of sealer inside the boot to lock it
>to the caliper mount and to the pin. I would think that water/air
>wouldn't be getting in there but I still get a couple that stick.



Ed Pawlowski 07-18-2009 10:15 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Furthermore, there is
more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
would just be a
waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
idling. When
it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
correlation with putting it
into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
happen constantly
when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
shifting it's only like
I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
the same
frequency.).

************************************************** **********************

That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when moving
versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.

Given your mechanical abilities and aptitude, there is a fairly simple
solution to the problem. Take the car to the dealer Monday morning. Trade
it in on a new one.



Steve in AZ 07-18-2009 11:02 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
LMAO111

Steve in AZ

"MasterBlaster" <Nobody's.Home@My.Place> wrote in message
news:mny7m.36596$PH1.23187@edtnps82...
>
> "mike3" wrote:
>
>> We have a Hyundai Accent GS car (2001) that's been making this bizarre
>> "clicking" or "creaking" noise while driving it. I recorded a sample
>> here:
>>
>> http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?2md3oydznvm

>
> It's from the enginetrannysuspensionbodyhoodaxlebrakestrutdoohic key.
> Don't worry, all Hyundais do that.
>
> Actually, it's almost impossible to tell what the noise is just from a
> recording.
> I'd have to actually drive the car at different speeds, over different
> terrain
> (smooth, bumpy, rough, etc), speeding up, slowing down, turning left,
> right,
> braking and so on.... to try and narrow it down to the most likely causes.
> Then it's back to the shop, up on the hoist, and start prying and twisting
> parts
> to pinpoint the noise.
>
>




mike3 07-19-2009 02:01 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Toyota MDT in MO <toyotamdti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On Jul 18, 1:28 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jul 18, 12:25 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> > > On Jul 17, 3:24 pm, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> > > > "Vic Smith" <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote in message

>
> > > >news:uem165h2st38pdic12uq2i6pm4rq8kkjm1@4ax.com.. .

>
> > > > > On Fri, 17 Jul 2009 16:00:11 -0400, "jim"
> > > > > <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:

>
> > > > >>Why is this such a problem Mike?

>
> > > > >>There could be a small rock in one of them too.

>
> > > > > A buddy who knew nothing about cars called me one day and asked me
> > > > > if he could come over to check what he called "a serious problem"with
> > > > > his car. Think it was a late 70's Cutlass, with a 350. Nicecar. He
> > > > > insisted I take it on a Florida vacation once, and I did.
> > > > > Said he was "embarrassed" when pulling up to a light and the noise
> > > > > would make people look at him. Problem was week old.
> > > > > He comes over and we get in the car. He pulls out and I can clearly
> > > > > hear clanging in his right front. Has to be in the hubcap.
> > > > > I tell him to pull over - we only went 10 feet, and popped the hubcap
> > > > > and a lug nut with broken stud falls out.
> > > > > Told him to take it to a tire shop and get the stud replaced.
> > > > > He was glowing with happiness and thought I was a genius.
> > > > > I didn't hear Mike's sound file, so I can't say.
> > > > > Won't hurt to look.
> > > > > But I've heard a million other car noises compared to one time
> > > > > something was in a hubcap. Have heard noisy hubcaps though.
> > > > > Usually fancy ones where something gets loose.

>
> > > > > --Vic

>
> > > > I know it might be something else, and probably is, but wouldn't you want to
> > > > try the easiest and cheapest fix first?

>
> > > I suppose, but these hubcaps have big holes in them, so I'm not sure
> > > how something
> > > could get caught in there, move around a lot, and not come out.
> > > Furthermore, there is
> > > more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
> > > would just be a
> > > waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
> > > idling. When
> > > it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
> > > correlation with putting it
> > > into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
> > > happen constantly
> > > when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
> > > shifting it's only like
> > > I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
> > > the same
> > > frequency.).

>
> > And it also doesn't always happen when changing gears, either. But
> > sometimes
> > it's been heard it at those times.- Hide quoted text -

>
> > - Show quoted text -

>
> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.
>


Why do you think I'm just dismissing it? Rather I thought about it,
and
I weighed it in light of available evidence.

mike3 07-19-2009 02:03 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 18, 8:15 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> Furthermore, there is
> more reason to believe this is not a hubcap problem (and so this test
> would just be a
> waste): sometimes I've heard the sound when the car is not moving, but
> idling. When
> it happens while idling, there may be, though I'm not sure, a
> correlation with putting it
> into/out of gear, for example shifting to/from park. And it doesn't
> happen constantly
> when it's moving either, just episodically. When it occurs with the
> shifting it's only like
> I think 1, 2, maybe 3 clicks (but they sound just the same and have
> the same
> frequency.).
>
> ************************************************** **********************
>
> That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
> diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when moving
> versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.
>


And what about ones that occur during both?

But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
now?


Vic Smith 07-19-2009 06:35 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:03:34 -0700 (PDT), mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Jul 18, 8:15 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
>> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>>


>>
>> That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
>> diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when moving
>> versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.
>>

>
>And what about ones that occur during both?
>
>But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
>now?


The internet can't help here. So far all I've gathered is there
is a "clicking" sound sometimes.
Maybe the dashboard is clicking when the sun hits it.
Maybe this, maybe that. Or quite possibly this or that.
Give up asking here and take it to somebody who can listen to it.
What does your wife say about it? She might know.
Every time my wife says "something's wrong with the car" I tell her
she's crazy.
Then a short time later I have to fix what was wrong.
Still haven't figured that out.

--Vic

Ed Pawlowski 07-19-2009 07:05 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message

But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
now?


************************************************** ******************

I suspect you have no clue about cars. Buy a new one and it will be covered
under warranty.



fred 07-19-2009 07:18 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in
news:958733a5-da79-4279-9327-e581848e4190@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:

> On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Toyota MDT in MO <toyotamdti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> On Jul 18, 1:28 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>


>> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
>> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
>> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.
>>

>
> Why do you think I'm just dismissing it? Rather I thought about it,
> and
> I weighed it in light of available evidence.
>

*What* evidence? you didn't even try the only suggestion you've gotten.
Ok, take the car in to a mechanic and have him change the entire front
end. Cost you a couple of thousand, problably won't eliminate the sound,
will take at least a week without the car, but at least you won't have
spend 15 minutes removing the hubcaps and listening if the sound is gone.

jim 07-19-2009 07:37 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 

"mike3" <mike4ty4@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:a6ee7f73-19f0-44c9-b097-bc310a8475a1@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...

>
> That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
> diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when
> moving
> versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.
>


And what about ones that occur during both?

But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
now?


Rather obvious now, this Troll has caught a lot of us. I'm putting him in
my plop bucket.

Jim



Tegger 07-19-2009 08:31 AM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
"Steve W." <csr684@NOTyahoo.com> wrote in news:h3tjba$qtc$1@aioe.org:

> Toyota MDT in MO wrote:
>
>> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
>> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
>> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.
>>
>> Toyota MDT in MO

>
> I'm thinking it's a sticky caliper. Just did another set of rear discs
> on a GM with STUCK glides.
>
> Anyone have a better lube for them? The stuff I'm using now is a
> silicone based grease made for the pins but it still doesn't last that
> long. The current method is to clean (or replace them if pitted) the
> pins. use a dowel to clean out the bores (a .30 caliber gun brush
> works REAL well) then solvent flush and air dry. Then a generous
> helping of lube and install the pins. Then a light coat of sealer
> inside the boot to lock it to the caliper mount and to the pin. I
> would think that water/air wouldn't be getting in there but I still
> get a couple that stick.
>




I don't know the specific setup you've got there, but if it's what I think
it is, then the rubber boots may be fitting too loosely (old), or the
grooves the boots sit in have corrosion in them.

On my car I've found Sil-Glyde to work the best for the pins, BUT it
depends on the cleanliness of the boot grooves, and the tightness of the
boots in those grooves. The rubber boots do expand with age, making them
fit more loosely, allowing water in.

--
Tegger


mike3 07-19-2009 03:08 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 19, 5:05 am, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
> now?
>
> ************************************************** ******************
>
> I suspect you have no clue about cars. Buy a new one and it will be covered
> under warranty.


We don't have the money.

Why not tell me though what you would think, based on this new
information? Or
is it still not enough?

mike3 07-19-2009 03:09 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 19, 5:37 am, "jim" <jwhite18...@nospampeoplepc.com> wrote:
> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>
> news:a6ee7f73-19f0-44c9-b097-bc310a8475a1@n11g2000yqb.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
> > diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when
> > moving
> > versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.

>
> And what about ones that occur during both?
>
> But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
> now?
>
> Rather obvious now, this Troll has caught a lot of us. I'm putting himin
> my plop bucket.
>


My intent though is not to troll this group. But you won't believe
that, I guess.
What exactly am I doing wrong?


mike3 07-19-2009 03:11 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 19, 4:35 am, Vic Smith <thismailautodele...@comcast.net> wrote:
> On Sat, 18 Jul 2009 23:03:34 -0700 (PDT), mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> >On Jul 18, 8:15 pm, "Ed Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> >> "mike3" <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

>
> >> That is important information you left out the first time. Doing
> >> diagnostics you follow certain paths of common problems. Noises when moving
> >> versus noises when standing are usually very different sources.

>
> >And what about ones that occur during both?

>
> >But now that I *have* given the information, what would you suspect
> >now?

>
> The internet can't help here. So far all I've gathered is there
> is a "clicking" sound sometimes.
> Maybe the dashboard is clicking when the sun hits it.
> Maybe this, maybe that. Or quite possibly this or that.
> Give up asking here and take it to somebody who can listen to it.
> What does your wife say about it? She might know.
> Every time my wife says "something's wrong with the car" I tell her
> she's crazy.
> Then a short time later I have to fix what was wrong.
> Still haven't figured that out.
>


Well I do know someone who is more knowledgeable with this but
they were stumped. And we also took it to a mechanic at a car shop,
they didn't know what it was either.

mike3 07-19-2009 07:30 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Jul 19, 5:18 am, fred <f...@bedrock.rock> wrote:
> mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:958733a5-da79-4279-9327-e581848e4190@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>
> > On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Toyota MDT in MO <toyotamdti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On Jul 18, 1:28 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>
> >> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
> >> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
> >> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.

>
> > Why do you think I'm just dismissing it? Rather I thought about it,
> > and
> > I weighed it in light of available evidence.

>
> *What* evidence? you didn't even try the only suggestion you've gotten.


The "evidence" is that the sound also happens when the car is not
moving
but idling, as I mentioned in another post here. I'm not sure how a
hubcap
could cause that.

> Ok, take the car in to a mechanic and have him change the entire front
> end. Cost you a couple of thousand, problably won't eliminate the sound,
> will take at least a week without the car, but at least you won't have
> spend 15 minutes removing the hubcaps and listening if the sound is gone.



Nicholas 07-19-2009 08:20 PM

Re: Hyundai car making strange noise
 
On Sun, 19 Jul 2009 16:30:01 -0700 (PDT), mike3 <mike4ty4@yahoo.com>
wrote:

>On Jul 19, 5:18 am, fred <f...@bedrock.rock> wrote:
>> mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote innews:958733a5-da79-4279-9327-e581848e4190@c1g2000yqi.googlegroups.com:
>>
>> > On Jul 18, 1:55 pm, Toyota MDT in MO <toyotamdti...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >> On Jul 18, 1:28 pm, mike3 <mike4...@yahoo.com> wrote:

>>
>> >> Could you be a dear and leave usenet for those who don't slap
>> >> respondants' suggestions back in their faces? I can't tell you how
>> >> much I hope the noise is hubcap creep.

>>
>> > Why do you think I'm just dismissing it? Rather I thought about it,
>> > and
>> > I weighed it in light of available evidence.

>>
>> *What* evidence? you didn't even try the only suggestion you've gotten.

>
>The "evidence" is that the sound also happens when the car is not
>moving
>but idling, as I mentioned in another post here. I'm not sure how a
>hubcap
>could cause that.


For the sake of MY sanity, this thread is killfiled. but before I go,
lift the hood and see if you can narrow it down to a slipping
alternator/acon/water pump belt.

BY BYE !!!!!
<PLONK>


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