Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>the problem.
>>
>
>
> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself - except
> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>
In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>the problem.
>>
>
>
> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself - except
> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>
In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>the problem.
>>
>
>
> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself - except
> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>
In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>
>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>the problem.
>>
>
>
> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself - except
> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>
In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> > news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
> >
> >>hyundaitech wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
> >>>model, and engine do you have?
> >>>
> >>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
> >>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
> >>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
> >>the problem.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
except
> > when I go to the Hyundai site.
> >
> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
--
-Mike-
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
> Mike Marlow wrote:
> > "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> > news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
> >
> >>hyundaitech wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
> >>>model, and engine do you have?
> >>>
> >>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
> >>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
> >>>
> >>
> >>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
> >>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
> >>the problem.
> >>
> >
> >
> > Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
except
> > when I go to the Hyundai site.
> >
> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>> just doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if
>> that is the problem.
>
>
> When you go to the site, it tells you that it only works with IE.
> Someone should slap the idiot who designed it, for that and other
> reasons. I hate IE as much as anyone, but the Hyundai site is quite
> reliable when you use it.
Yes, I relented and fired up IE last night and the site worked a lot
better. I agree about the site designer.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>> just doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if
>> that is the problem.
>
>
> When you go to the site, it tells you that it only works with IE.
> Someone should slap the idiot who designed it, for that and other
> reasons. I hate IE as much as anyone, but the Hyundai site is quite
> reliable when you use it.
Yes, I relented and fired up IE last night and the site worked a lot
better. I agree about the site designer.
Matt
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>> just doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if
>> that is the problem.
>
>
> When you go to the site, it tells you that it only works with IE.
> Someone should slap the idiot who designed it, for that and other
> reasons. I hate IE as much as anyone, but the Hyundai site is quite
> reliable when you use it.
Yes, I relented and fired up IE last night and the site worked a lot
better. I agree about the site designer.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>
>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>
>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>
>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>
>>
>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>> just doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if
>> that is the problem.
>
>
> When you go to the site, it tells you that it only works with IE.
> Someone should slap the idiot who designed it, for that and other
> reasons. I hate IE as much as anyone, but the Hyundai site is quite
> reliable when you use it.
Yes, I relented and fired up IE last night and the site worked a lot
better. I agree about the site designer.
Matt
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>
> except
>
>>>when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>
>>
>>In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>
>
> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>
Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
Netscape 7.2?
Matt
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>
> except
>
>>>when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>
>>
>>In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>
>
> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>
Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
Netscape 7.2?
Matt
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>
> except
>
>>>when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>
>>
>>In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>
>
> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>
Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
Netscape 7.2?
Matt
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>
>>Mike Marlow wrote:
>>
>>>"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>
>>>
>>>>hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What year,
>>>>>model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>
>>>>>You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it just
>>>>doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>the problem.
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>
> except
>
>>>when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>
>>
>>In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>"IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>
>
> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>
Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
Netscape 7.2?
Matt
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>>
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What
>>>>>> year,
>>>>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>>>>> just
>>>>> doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>>
>>
>> except
>>
>>>> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>>
>
> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
> Netscape 7.2?
I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
installing them.
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>>
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What
>>>>>> year,
>>>>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>>>>> just
>>>>> doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>>
>>
>> except
>>
>>>> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>>
>
> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
> Netscape 7.2?
I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
installing them.
#25
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>>
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What
>>>>>> year,
>>>>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>>>>> just
>>>>> doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>>
>>
>> except
>>
>>>> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>>
>
> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
> Netscape 7.2?
I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
installing them.
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>> news:dOwtf.592$494.238@trndny07...
>>
>>> Mike Marlow wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> news:Hxktf.4644$lb.397208@news1.epix.net...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> hyundaitech wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Some of the timing belts are easier to change than others. What
>>>>>> year,
>>>>>> model, and engine do you have?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can find a wealth of service information (for free) at
>>>>>> www.hmaservice.com. You simply need to register for an account.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've found this site very unreliable with frequent hangs. Maybe it
>>>>> just
>>>>> doesn't like Netscape, but I hate IE. I may try it to see if that is
>>>>> the problem.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Unfortunately, it does like IE much better. I use Mozilla myself -
>>
>>
>> except
>>
>>>> when I go to the Hyundai site.
>>>>
>>>
>>> In case you haven't seen it, there's an extension for Firefox called
>>> "IEView". If you go to a page that only works in IE or doesn't work well
>>> in Firefox, right click anywhere on the page and select "View this page
>>> in IE". It will open IE in a separate window. Very handy!
>>
>>
>>
>> Outstanding Brian! I didn't know about that.
>>
>
> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also with
> Netscape 7.2?
I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
installing them.
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also
>> with Netscape 7.2?
>
>
> I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
> don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
> Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
> installing them.
I thought about doing the same, but I like having full capability
(emial, browser, news reader and calendar) all in the same, easy to use
package.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also
>> with Netscape 7.2?
>
>
> I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
> don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
> Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
> installing them.
I thought about doing the same, but I like having full capability
(emial, browser, news reader and calendar) all in the same, easy to use
package.
Matt
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Re: Hyundai Manuals and Timing Belt Change
Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also
>> with Netscape 7.2?
>
>
> I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
> don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
> Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
> installing them.
I thought about doing the same, but I like having full capability
(emial, browser, news reader and calendar) all in the same, easy to use
package.
Matt
> Matt Whiting wrote:
>> Since Netscape 7.2 is Mozilla based, will this extension work also
>> with Netscape 7.2?
>
>
> I couldn't say for sure, but I doubt it. As a former Netscape user, I
> don't see any point in using it any longer now the Firefox and
> Thunderbird (email) are available. I strongly suggest downloading and
> installing them.
I thought about doing the same, but I like having full capability
(emial, browser, news reader and calendar) all in the same, easy to use
package.
Matt
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