hyundaitech

FRAUD?? That's a little strong. Actually that's a lot strong. I
understand you're upset you have an expensive problem to fix and that you
even think Hyundai should pay for your repairs, but to toss around the
term fraud is libel. By your own admission, you have been told the failed
part was the thermostat which is no longer covered by the warranty.

R75

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:06:20 -0400, "hyundaitech"
<howitsac@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:

>FRAUD?? That's a little strong. Actually that's a lot strong. I
>understand you're upset you have an expensive problem to fix and that you
>even think Hyundai should pay for your repairs, but to toss around the
>term fraud is libel. By your own admission, you have been told the failed
>part was the thermostat which is no longer covered by the warranty.


Oh, good...now you're a lawyer also.

Jim Vatunz

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 22:52:10 GMT, R75 <noway@hose.com> wrote:

>On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 13:06:20 -0400, "hyundaitech"
><howitsac@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>FRAUD?? That's a little strong. Actually that's a lot strong. I
>>understand you're upset you have an expensive problem to fix and that you
>>even think Hyundai should pay for your repairs, but to toss around the
>>term fraud is libel. By your own admission, you have been told the failed
>>part was the thermostat which is no longer covered by the warranty.
>
>
>Oh, good...now you're a lawyer also.

Realist might be a better term.

I have a webcam in the tropics
http://ii.net/~farmerjim/

Ottpak

the normal door rate labour and miscellaneous testing. I think it would have
worked out to $115 but they waived it when they pretty much knew I would be
very unimpressed.

"Jon W." <JWalker@yahoo34.com> wrote in message
news:gsf2g0d8gkgk523ubntscmrp9qmt7gtq72@4ax.com...
> How much did the "adjustment" cost?
>
> J.W.
>
> On Fri, 23 Jul 2004 10:45:57 -0400, "Ottpak"
> <ottpak@removeme.hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >I agree. I'm in Ottawa, Canada and the warranty is not the same as in the
> >states.
> >The warranty I paid extra for 5 yrs/100K bumper to bumper. I had an issue
> >with the A/C. I have an 02 Elantra VE and the A/C died this spring.
> >Apprently, a valve needed and adjustment and apparently warranties don't
> >cover adjustments beyond 20K.
> >
> >"McDao" <sleepingfire@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> >news:fd7500a5261f8edf3ed34510bfcc1a0d@localhost.t alkaboutautos.com...
> >> I appreciate the information, everyone.. and thank you for the
pessimism,
> >> hyundaitech.
> >>
> >> If Hyundai ends up not covering me on this, I am going to have to fight
it
> >> the only way that I can. I will be writing editorials to all local
> >> newspapers, posting on every website that I can find, contacting the
local
> >> television stations, printing out fliers, etc...
> >>
> >> Hyundai claims as their advertising mantra, "America's Best Warranty".
On
> >> their website they note, "Imagine having a warranty that last longer
than
> >> your car payments", etc, etc.
> >>
> >> I did all my maintenance religiously.. and my engine blew up. And there
> >> was absolutely NOTHING that I or anybody else could have done to
prevent
> >> it. My car didnt let me know that it was in trouble.. Unless I had
gotten
> >> a wild hair up my butt to ask a mechanic to check my temperature
gauge--
> >> there is nothing that I could have done. As soon as I saw trouble, I
> >> pulled off the highway... and even then- my gauges showed nothing.
> >>
> >> And that is unacceptable. For a company that uses this warranty is its
#1
> >> selling point, this is just simply not fair... I will fight this with
> >> arbitration.. and then with a lawsuit.. and if none of that works and
> >> Hyundai wont pay for these repairs.... then I will make sure that they
pay
> >> for it in lost sales..
> >>
> >> Their 100,000 mile "America's Best Warranty" is quite simply a FRAUD.
> >>
> >
>

Sudip Bhattacharjee

On Fri, 23 Jul 2004, hyundaitech wrote:

> So their story is that the car was well-maintained at time of purchase, but
> then, a few months later they say the 30k was never done? I say you have
> a case for the dealer to buy you a 30k service. You supposedly purchased
> a well-maintained car and now they are telling you it was no more than a
> safe car. I'd tell them I expected a well maintained car and demand one.
> And if they won't buy or contribute to my 30k service, I'll take my
> business elsewhere and not come back.
>
>
Thank you for the advice. I thought about that. The problem is they did
not give me any written assurance that it was well serviced, they just said
it. When I brought this point to them few days back, they simply said "you
never asked us about maintenance" !!!! I could not believe the same guy
who told me about maintenance during purchase told me this!! I was shell
shocked.

Sudip Bhattacharjee

On Thu, 22 Jul 2004, McDao wrote:

> I appreciate the information, everyone.. and thank you for the pessimism,
> hyundaitech.
>
> If Hyundai ends up not covering me on this, I am going to have to fight it
> the only way that I can. I will be writing editorials to all local
> newspapers, posting on every website that I can find, contacting the local
> television stations, printing out fliers, etc...
>
> Hyundai claims as their advertising mantra, "America's Best Warranty". On
> their website they note, "Imagine having a warranty that last longer than
> your car payments", etc, etc.
>
> I did all my maintenance religiously.. and my engine blew up. And there
> was absolutely NOTHING that I or anybody else could have done to prevent
> it. My car didnt let me know that it was in trouble.. Unless I had gotten
> a wild hair up my butt to ask a mechanic to check my temperature gauge--
> there is nothing that I could have done. As soon as I saw trouble, I
> pulled off the highway... and even then- my gauges showed nothing.
>
> And that is unacceptable. For a company that uses this warranty is its #1
> selling point, this is just simply not fair... I will fight this with
> arbitration.. and then with a lawsuit.. and if none of that works and
> Hyundai wont pay for these repairs.... then I will make sure that they pay
> for it in lost sales..
>
> Their 100,000 mile "America's Best Warranty" is quite simply a FRAUD.
>
Teh warranty clause itself is a fraud. Did they say anywhere in the clause
that engine does not include thermostast after 60k? If not engine means as
a whole everything which is part of it. I think you have a good cause of
wining in a lower court.

You should actually do what you said. Dont forget that there is no ethic
in car business. Every car dealer is a liar. So, as they said they will
do anything to get out of this, you should also do anything possible to
stop payin for new engine. And anything means really anything you can
think about - just forget the consequence, only think you are not
going to pay for this - thats it.