Ash

Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
chinese cars even lower..

www.chinacarforums.com

discuss

Martin Emch

If you know german read this:
http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Ash wrote:
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..
>
> www.chinacarforums.com
>
> discuss
>

Martin Emch

If you know german read this:
http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Ash wrote:
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..
>
> www.chinacarforums.com
>
> discuss
>

Martin Emch

If you know german read this:
http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Ash wrote:
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..
>
> www.chinacarforums.com
>
> discuss
>

A. Sinan Unur

Martin Emch <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch:

> Ash wrote:
>> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
>> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
>> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
>> chinese cars even lower..
>>
>> www.chinacarforums.com
>>
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Well, IMHO, the OP is just trying to drive traffic to his web site,
but I got curious and my German is not that good, so I went searching.
Eeee!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/09/...in-crash-test/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangling_Motors_Landwind

Sinan
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A. Sinan Unur

Martin Emch <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch:

> Ash wrote:
>> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
>> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
>> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
>> chinese cars even lower..
>>
>> www.chinacarforums.com
>>
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Well, IMHO, the OP is just trying to drive traffic to his web site,
but I got curious and my German is not that good, so I went searching.
Eeee!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/09/...in-crash-test/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangling_Motors_Landwind

Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
(reverse each component and remove .invalid for email address)

A. Sinan Unur

Martin Emch <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch:

> Ash wrote:
>> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
>> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
>> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
>> chinese cars even lower..
>>
>> www.chinacarforums.com
>>
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2

Well, IMHO, the OP is just trying to drive traffic to his web site,
but I got curious and my German is not that good, so I went searching.
Eeee!

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/10/...ssenger-cabin/

http://paultan.org/archives/2005/09/...in-crash-test/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jiangling_Motors_Landwind

Sinan
--
A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
(reverse each component and remove .invalid for email address)

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"Ash" <arorarustagi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140555603.210125.37990@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..


yeah and far even lower qulaity than all modern, car manufatures. I highly
doubt hyundai will go out of business any time soon.
CHINA has a lot to go, as far as "QUALITY"
" they" are flooding the US (and a lot of other Countris) market with cheap,
crappy quality motorcylces, scooters, consumer electronics, etc, etc, etc...
I dont like it, specially from a communist run (socialist, or whatever you
want to call it..) Government.

news

"Ash" <arorarustagi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140555603.210125.37990@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..


yeah and far even lower qulaity than all modern, car manufatures. I highly
doubt hyundai will go out of business any time soon.
CHINA has a lot to go, as far as "QUALITY"
" they" are flooding the US (and a lot of other Countris) market with cheap,
crappy quality motorcylces, scooters, consumer electronics, etc, etc, etc...
I dont like it, specially from a communist run (socialist, or whatever you
want to call it..) Government.

news

"Ash" <arorarustagi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140555603.210125.37990@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..


yeah and far even lower qulaity than all modern, car manufatures. I highly
doubt hyundai will go out of business any time soon.
CHINA has a lot to go, as far as "QUALITY"
" they" are flooding the US (and a lot of other Countris) market with cheap,
crappy quality motorcylces, scooters, consumer electronics, etc, etc, etc...
I dont like it, specially from a communist run (socialist, or whatever you
want to call it..) Government.

news

"Martin Emch" <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2


this gives a whole new meaning to... a great bang, for your buck!

my German is horrible..achtung! however, courtesy of freetranslation.com.



The first car out of China on the German market, when full terrain vehicle
to the bargain price of well 15,000 Euros. Can one buy so something? To
test an occasion for the ADAC, the China-import. In the ADAC-Crashtest with
64 km/h frontal and 50 km/h of Seitenaufprall the "country wind" showed that
it has yet considerable need to catch up in the field of the passive
security. That strongly did not shape passenger cell and that therewith
unakzeptable "over living space", the insufficient Airbag-equipment as well
as the weak side protection correspond to the state of the technology.

Result injury risk FrontalcrashSeitencrash
KindersicherheitEU-Zulassungsverfahren without Crashtest? Videos
Result

The Jiangling country wind shows considerable weakness in the ADAC-Crashtest
in spite of Fahrerairbag. The parts strongly penetrating into the vehicle
(steering wheel, instruments chalkboard and front wheel) can evoke heaviest
until deadly injuries, what leads to the devaluation. Serious construction
mistakes lead to an unbearable reduction of the over living space. With
this result becomes acknowledged explained has itself clear, that the firm
JMC not yet with that in Europe security standards.

The "country wind" in the ADAC of car test: go on our cars test-side in the
selection box to the manufacturer "Jiangling". More..

Injury risk
Frontalcrash

VergrößernVergrößern

In the Frontalcrash, the danger of deadly head injuries exists through the
extremely strongly penetrating steering wheel. , That penetrating
instruments chalkboard and the totally destroyed foot room must be reckoned
with heaviest bruises and injuries in the breast area, basin area as well as
leg area also by the kollabierende passenger cell. The stuck door impedes
the rescue of the driver in addition because it can be broken open only with
tool.

Seitencrash

In the Seitencrash, the driver head against the hard roof beam strikes -
that means heavy head injuries. The strongly penetrating side wall causes
breast injuries. The Jiangling country wind does not control Seitenairbags
or special metal strengthenings in the doors, that could diminish these
loads.

Children security

The tests became with highchair selected by the ADAC for a 1 1/2- and
3-year-old child carried out: Britax Roman baby safe plus and Britax Roman
King TS plus. They offer a good protection for the children. On the other
hand there are some Mängel in the estimation of the children security in the
vehicle. So the subject of children security is not itemized in the
operation instructions and the Gurtegeometrie does not fulfill the European
requests: in many highchairs, it can come therefore as a result of the too
long Gurtpeitschen to installation problems.

EU allowance procedure without Crashtest?

Car models must fulfill an entire row at building directions so that they
are allowance capable. In addition also proofs belong over the exhaust fume
behavior as well as a frontal-Crash. No rule without exception: in little
series (single-allowance) the EU-legislation forgoes until now Crash-proofs.
Therefrom also the country wind profited - this hurdle would not have
created it namely. Must such slip holes in the allowance procedure, so the
ADAC in an EU-conference in Brussels, unconditionally plugged become. The
EU took up the subject meanwhile, stand the mentioned facilitations for
single allowances now on the test bed. Wherewith country wind would be
allowed to blow and Co in the future a stronger breeze contrary to.

news

"Martin Emch" <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2


this gives a whole new meaning to... a great bang, for your buck!

my German is horrible..achtung! however, courtesy of freetranslation.com.



The first car out of China on the German market, when full terrain vehicle
to the bargain price of well 15,000 Euros. Can one buy so something? To
test an occasion for the ADAC, the China-import. In the ADAC-Crashtest with
64 km/h frontal and 50 km/h of Seitenaufprall the "country wind" showed that
it has yet considerable need to catch up in the field of the passive
security. That strongly did not shape passenger cell and that therewith
unakzeptable "over living space", the insufficient Airbag-equipment as well
as the weak side protection correspond to the state of the technology.

Result injury risk FrontalcrashSeitencrash
KindersicherheitEU-Zulassungsverfahren without Crashtest? Videos
Result

The Jiangling country wind shows considerable weakness in the ADAC-Crashtest
in spite of Fahrerairbag. The parts strongly penetrating into the vehicle
(steering wheel, instruments chalkboard and front wheel) can evoke heaviest
until deadly injuries, what leads to the devaluation. Serious construction
mistakes lead to an unbearable reduction of the over living space. With
this result becomes acknowledged explained has itself clear, that the firm
JMC not yet with that in Europe security standards.

The "country wind" in the ADAC of car test: go on our cars test-side in the
selection box to the manufacturer "Jiangling". More..

Injury risk
Frontalcrash

VergrößernVergrößern

In the Frontalcrash, the danger of deadly head injuries exists through the
extremely strongly penetrating steering wheel. , That penetrating
instruments chalkboard and the totally destroyed foot room must be reckoned
with heaviest bruises and injuries in the breast area, basin area as well as
leg area also by the kollabierende passenger cell. The stuck door impedes
the rescue of the driver in addition because it can be broken open only with
tool.

Seitencrash

In the Seitencrash, the driver head against the hard roof beam strikes -
that means heavy head injuries. The strongly penetrating side wall causes
breast injuries. The Jiangling country wind does not control Seitenairbags
or special metal strengthenings in the doors, that could diminish these
loads.

Children security

The tests became with highchair selected by the ADAC for a 1 1/2- and
3-year-old child carried out: Britax Roman baby safe plus and Britax Roman
King TS plus. They offer a good protection for the children. On the other
hand there are some Mängel in the estimation of the children security in the
vehicle. So the subject of children security is not itemized in the
operation instructions and the Gurtegeometrie does not fulfill the European
requests: in many highchairs, it can come therefore as a result of the too
long Gurtpeitschen to installation problems.

EU allowance procedure without Crashtest?

Car models must fulfill an entire row at building directions so that they
are allowance capable. In addition also proofs belong over the exhaust fume
behavior as well as a frontal-Crash. No rule without exception: in little
series (single-allowance) the EU-legislation forgoes until now Crash-proofs.
Therefrom also the country wind profited - this hurdle would not have
created it namely. Must such slip holes in the allowance procedure, so the
ADAC in an EU-conference in Brussels, unconditionally plugged become. The
EU took up the subject meanwhile, stand the mentioned facilitations for
single allowances now on the test bed. Wherewith country wind would be
allowed to blow and Co in the future a stronger breeze contrary to.

news

"Martin Emch" <keepin@newsgroup.com> wrote in message
news:43fb89de$1_2@news.bluewin.ch...
> If you know german read this:
> http://www.adac.de/Tests/Crash_Tests...fault.asp?TL=2


this gives a whole new meaning to... a great bang, for your buck!

my German is horrible..achtung! however, courtesy of freetranslation.com.



The first car out of China on the German market, when full terrain vehicle
to the bargain price of well 15,000 Euros. Can one buy so something? To
test an occasion for the ADAC, the China-import. In the ADAC-Crashtest with
64 km/h frontal and 50 km/h of Seitenaufprall the "country wind" showed that
it has yet considerable need to catch up in the field of the passive
security. That strongly did not shape passenger cell and that therewith
unakzeptable "over living space", the insufficient Airbag-equipment as well
as the weak side protection correspond to the state of the technology.

Result injury risk FrontalcrashSeitencrash
KindersicherheitEU-Zulassungsverfahren without Crashtest? Videos
Result

The Jiangling country wind shows considerable weakness in the ADAC-Crashtest
in spite of Fahrerairbag. The parts strongly penetrating into the vehicle
(steering wheel, instruments chalkboard and front wheel) can evoke heaviest
until deadly injuries, what leads to the devaluation. Serious construction
mistakes lead to an unbearable reduction of the over living space. With
this result becomes acknowledged explained has itself clear, that the firm
JMC not yet with that in Europe security standards.

The "country wind" in the ADAC of car test: go on our cars test-side in the
selection box to the manufacturer "Jiangling". More..

Injury risk
Frontalcrash

VergrößernVergrößern

In the Frontalcrash, the danger of deadly head injuries exists through the
extremely strongly penetrating steering wheel. , That penetrating
instruments chalkboard and the totally destroyed foot room must be reckoned
with heaviest bruises and injuries in the breast area, basin area as well as
leg area also by the kollabierende passenger cell. The stuck door impedes
the rescue of the driver in addition because it can be broken open only with
tool.

Seitencrash

In the Seitencrash, the driver head against the hard roof beam strikes -
that means heavy head injuries. The strongly penetrating side wall causes
breast injuries. The Jiangling country wind does not control Seitenairbags
or special metal strengthenings in the doors, that could diminish these
loads.

Children security

The tests became with highchair selected by the ADAC for a 1 1/2- and
3-year-old child carried out: Britax Roman baby safe plus and Britax Roman
King TS plus. They offer a good protection for the children. On the other
hand there are some Mängel in the estimation of the children security in the
vehicle. So the subject of children security is not itemized in the
operation instructions and the Gurtegeometrie does not fulfill the European
requests: in many highchairs, it can come therefore as a result of the too
long Gurtpeitschen to installation problems.

EU allowance procedure without Crashtest?

Car models must fulfill an entire row at building directions so that they
are allowance capable. In addition also proofs belong over the exhaust fume
behavior as well as a frontal-Crash. No rule without exception: in little
series (single-allowance) the EU-legislation forgoes until now Crash-proofs.
Therefrom also the country wind profited - this hurdle would not have
created it namely. Must such slip holes in the allowance procedure, so the
ADAC in an EU-conference in Brussels, unconditionally plugged become. The
EU took up the subject meanwhile, stand the mentioned facilitations for
single allowances now on the test bed. Wherewith country wind would be
allowed to blow and Co in the future a stronger breeze contrary to.

news

"Ash" <arorarustagi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140555603.210125.37990@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..


yeah and far even lower quality than all modern, car manufactures.
I highly doubt Hyundai will go out of business any time soon. GM and Ford
will see more cuts than Hyundai (IMHO)
CHINA has a lot to go, as far as "QUALITY"
" they" are flooding the US (and a lot of other Countries) market with
cheap, crappy, motorcycles, scooters, consumer electronics, etc, etc, etc...
I don't like it, specially from a communist run (socialist, or whatever you
want to call it..) Government.

ANYWAY, Hyundai spent over a billion US dollars in a modern plant in
Alabama.
I think they know what they are doing.

news

"Ash" <arorarustagi@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1140555603.210125.37990@o13g2000cwo.googlegro ups.com...
> Hyundai made a good 5 year entrace internationally...but in 1-2
> years...many china cars will come to international markets...will
> hyundai go out of business? kia is only good because price is low..but
> chinese cars even lower..


yeah and far even lower quality than all modern, car manufactures.
I highly doubt Hyundai will go out of business any time soon. GM and Ford
will see more cuts than Hyundai (IMHO)
CHINA has a lot to go, as far as "QUALITY"
" they" are flooding the US (and a lot of other Countries) market with
cheap, crappy, motorcycles, scooters, consumer electronics, etc, etc, etc...
I don't like it, specially from a communist run (socialist, or whatever you
want to call it..) Government.

ANYWAY, Hyundai spent over a billion US dollars in a modern plant in
Alabama.
I think they know what they are doing.