hyundaitech

If the plugs were replaced, the parts would have been listed on the repair
order. Additionally, your plugs are platinum, meaning that the gap should
never be tampered with. It's possible the dealer cleaned them, but I doubt
it. What's the point of pulling the plenum off to do cleaning that will
not affect engine performance?

Tom

Cleaning a regapping plugs????????????? I haven't heard that one in about
25 years. Run from that $^)(**&^ dealer as FAST as you can! You just got
screwed. How was it for you??


"Zeppo" <zeppo_m@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>> So my dealer wants $500 for the 30K service!! The service includes an
>> Oil
>> Change, Air Filter, Fuel Air Filter and Coolant Flush but it DOES NOT
>> include the supposed required Transmission Flush, which is an extra $150.
>>
>> The Hyundai web site and manuel does say a Transmission Flush now but
>> come
>> on at 30K?
>>
>> This whoile warranty thing seems to be a scam to me. They threaten that
>> if you do not do all this then Hyundai will void your warranty.
>>
>> What's the scoop Hyundaitech, what REALLY needs to be done at 30K?
>>
> I had my 30K service done last week on my 2005 Santa Fe 3.5L
>
> My total was $491 (including a $25 coupon discount) and included changing
> the tranny and differential fluid.
>
> The list of stuff they did was pretty long (and labor intensive) and
> included cleaning and regapping the plugs.
>
> Jon
>
>
>

southluke

> GUEST wrote:
> So my dealer wants $500 for the 30K service!! The service includes
an Oil
> Change, Air Filter, Fuel Air Filter and Coolant Flush but it DOES
NOT
> include the supposed required Transmission Flush, which is an extra
$150.
>
> The Hyundai web site and manuel does say a Transmission Flush now
but come
> on at 30K?
>
> This whoile warranty thing seems to be a scam to me. They threaten
that
> if you do not do all this then Hyundai will void your warranty.
>
> What's the scoop Hyundaitech, what REALLY needs to be done at
30K?

Reading this web site makes me wonder if I'm a little
mixed up or what. I do most all of my own maintence on 02 Sonata
with 71,500 miles on it. I have never even checked my transmission
fluid. The underneath of the engine and transmission are perfectly
dry and I assume it was filled at the factory. The manual says
change it at 105,000 miles and I believe it.

I will change the plugs when the car starts to miss or the gas milage
drops. That is the symptom of needing new plugs. The plugs that are
used by Hyundai are top of the line and all the other car makers
recommend changing at 100,000 miles or more. If it ain't broke don't
fix it.

I agree with others who say change the coolant every two years. I
change the oil every 4,000 miles and think that is an overkill
because it is still pretty clean at that time.

I have been driving and working on cars for 45 years and never had an
engine problem except for Fords but that seems to be common.

In my opinion the engine is probably the best part of the Sonata.
Some of the other systems seem to be not designed and built so well.
My 14 year old Integra with 157,000 miles on it still runs great. I
never add water or oil and have spent less than $100 dollars for
repairs the last 5 years. Hyundai will probably never match that.

hyundaitech

"I do most all of my own maintence on 02 Sonata
with 71,500 miles on it. I have never even checked my transmission
fluid. The underneath of the engine and transmission are perfectly
dry and I assume it was filled at the factory. The manual says
change it at 105,000 miles and I believe it."

This is the only part of your post I have a problem with. You should at
least check the quality of your transmission fluid every 30,000 miles.
The manual says you should do that, too. While I'd change it every 30k if
it were my car, I cannot say your idea to change it every 105k is
unreasonable, either, unless the condition of the fluid dictates
otherwise.

Matt Whiting

hyundaitech wrote:
> If the plugs were replaced, the parts would have been listed on the repair
> order. Additionally, your plugs are platinum, meaning that the gap should
> never be tampered with. It's possible the dealer cleaned them, but I doubt
> it. What's the point of pulling the plenum off to do cleaning that will
> not affect engine performance?

To make money?

Matt

Mike Marlow

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
>> If the plugs were replaced, the parts would have been listed on the
>> repair
>> order. Additionally, your plugs are platinum, meaning that the gap
>> should
>> never be tampered with. It's possible the dealer cleaned them, but I
>> doubt
>> it. What's the point of pulling the plenum off to do cleaning that will
>> not affect engine performance?
>
> To make money?
>


To HT's point... they can make more money by charging for it and not doing
it, since there's no point to doing it.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

paulgyro@gmail.com

"One of the additional items listed in your manual to be done at 30k
(I
believe) is to replace the canister air filter."

I saw this in the manual as well. Is this something you normally
have done on the 30k? I'm inclined to have it done seeing it's in the
manual but I thought some mentioned there really wasn't a need.

Paul

hyundaitech

I've never known any dealer to do this as regular maintenance. As I said
above, the possible complications are a check engine lamp and/or
difficulty filling the fuel tank.

Zeppo

"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
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> If the plugs were replaced, the parts would have been listed on the repair
> order. Additionally, your plugs are platinum, meaning that the gap should
> never be tampered with. It's possible the dealer cleaned them, but I
> doubt
> it. What's the point of pulling the plenum off to do cleaning that will
> not affect engine performance?
>
Something they did really affected performance. Perhaps the air or fuel
filters were clogged? The difference was pretty dramatic.

Jon

hyundaitech

Maybe they put more air in the tires.

What

"Cleaning and regapping? I would hope they would just replace them if they
went through the trouble of pulling them out. Probably cheaper than paying
labor for "cleaning."






Probably at most dealers Ed. I've never priced plugs from my dealer but I'd
venture a guess compared to everything else that the plugs are 25 follars
apiece or more.