On 10 Apr 2006 09:06:39 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com wrote:

>I have a LX and get about 18 mpg on my commutes. As they say..ymmv
>
>My avg speed is 24 mph, but max speed is like 40. Quite a few stops and
>some hills

Your average speed is awfully low. Sounds like 60% city, 40% highway, but
hard to tell.

Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
--
Bob

 

justfinished a 2200 mile trip with my V-6. averaged 21.5 to 29.5 on various
legs of the trip. at 68 mph average mpg was about 22 at mostly 80MPH in
Arizona dna NewMex. car with two peole amd ALLLL our luggage. Back seat
and trunk completely full. best was in Okla with average speed of 55MPH
and usually going about 65 MPH. YMMV and I wish it was more!

 

justfinished a 2200 mile trip with my V-6. averaged 21.5 to 29.5 on various
legs of the trip. at 68 mph average mpg was about 22 at mostly 80MPH in
Arizona dna NewMex. car with two peole amd ALLLL our luggage. Back seat
and trunk completely full. best was in Okla with average speed of 55MPH
and usually going about 65 MPH. YMMV and I wish it was more!

 

justfinished a 2200 mile trip with my V-6. averaged 21.5 to 29.5 on various
legs of the trip. at 68 mph average mpg was about 22 at mostly 80MPH in
Arizona dna NewMex. car with two peole amd ALLLL our luggage. Back seat
and trunk completely full. best was in Okla with average speed of 55MPH
and usually going about 65 MPH. YMMV and I wish it was more!

 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On 10 Apr 2006 09:06:39 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>I have a LX and get about 18 mpg on my commutes. As they say..ymmv
>>
>>My avg speed is 24 mph, but max speed is like 40. Quite a few stops and
>>some hills
>
>
> Your average speed is awfully low. Sounds like 60% city, 40% highway, but
> hard to tell.
>
> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.

How is it possible?


Matt

 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On 10 Apr 2006 09:06:39 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>I have a LX and get about 18 mpg on my commutes. As they say..ymmv
>>
>>My avg speed is 24 mph, but max speed is like 40. Quite a few stops and
>>some hills
>
>
> Your average speed is awfully low. Sounds like 60% city, 40% highway, but
> hard to tell.
>
> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.

How is it possible?


Matt

 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On 10 Apr 2006 09:06:39 -0700, zigipha@hotmail.com wrote:
>
>
>>I have a LX and get about 18 mpg on my commutes. As they say..ymmv
>>
>>My avg speed is 24 mph, but max speed is like 40. Quite a few stops and
>>some hills
>
>
> Your average speed is awfully low. Sounds like 60% city, 40% highway, but
> hard to tell.
>
> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.

How is it possible?


Matt

 

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:58:19 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:

>> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
>> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
>
>How is it possible?

ESC acts on throttle and brakes. I think either could *possibly* have an
effect on mileage.

Hey, I'm with you Matt. I've tried mine with ESC off, and can't notice 1
iota of difference. Others are saying it adversely affects their throttle
action and general performance. I suppose it's possible that the ESC could
be glitching, causing it to apply a little braking or impeding throttle
input. Dunno!
--
Bob

 

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:58:19 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:

>> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
>> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
>
>How is it possible?

ESC acts on throttle and brakes. I think either could *possibly* have an
effect on mileage.

Hey, I'm with you Matt. I've tried mine with ESC off, and can't notice 1
iota of difference. Others are saying it adversely affects their throttle
action and general performance. I suppose it's possible that the ESC could
be glitching, causing it to apply a little braking or impeding throttle
input. Dunno!
--
Bob

 

On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:58:19 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:

>> Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
>> it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
>
>How is it possible?

ESC acts on throttle and brakes. I think either could *possibly* have an
effect on mileage.

Hey, I'm with you Matt. I've tried mine with ESC off, and can't notice 1
iota of difference. Others are saying it adversely affects their throttle
action and general performance. I suppose it's possible that the ESC could
be glitching, causing it to apply a little braking or impeding throttle
input. Dunno!
--
Bob

 

REgarding my 24 avg mph..the driving is through towns, etc. my peak
speed is 40 mph, and spend a bit of time at lights.

As a test, I tried some short term tests on the highway, using the trip
comuter. I was able to get 34 mpg going level at 55 mph, drops to 29
mpg running close to 70. This was level road for approx 2 miles. 2400
miles.

 

REgarding my 24 avg mph..the driving is through towns, etc. my peak
speed is 40 mph, and spend a bit of time at lights.

As a test, I tried some short term tests on the highway, using the trip
comuter. I was able to get 34 mpg going level at 55 mph, drops to 29
mpg running close to 70. This was level road for approx 2 miles. 2400
miles.

 

REgarding my 24 avg mph..the driving is through towns, etc. my peak
speed is 40 mph, and spend a bit of time at lights.

As a test, I tried some short term tests on the highway, using the trip
comuter. I was able to get 34 mpg going level at 55 mph, drops to 29
mpg running close to 70. This was level road for approx 2 miles. 2400
miles.

 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:58:19 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
>>>it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
>>
>>How is it possible?
>
>
> ESC acts on throttle and brakes. I think either could *possibly* have an
> effect on mileage.

Only if you are driving such that ESC is activating often. I've only
had mine activate a couple of times during the past winter and I really
had to work to make it engage. The one time it did unexpectedly was
when I pulled onto a major highway that was covered with ice one
morning. I hit the throttle a little after shifting into second and the
engine started bucking like a bronco. I let off and it stopped. I did
it again and noticed the ESC light and put 2 and 2 together. I was
somewhat disappointed in how abrupt the ESC was. Nothing subtle about it.



> Hey, I'm with you Matt. I've tried mine with ESC off, and can't notice 1
> iota of difference. Others are saying it adversely affects their throttle
> action and general performance. I suppose it's possible that the ESC could
> be glitching, causing it to apply a little braking or impeding throttle
> input. Dunno!

I guess anything is possible if it is malfunctioning, but in normal
driving it shouldn't be doing anything other than monitoring.


Matt

 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On Tue, 11 Apr 2006 01:58:19 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>>Have you tried tuning your ESC off for a tank of gas? Some owners are saying
>>>it drags down their mileage. I really doubt this, but it's possible.
>>
>>How is it possible?
>
>
> ESC acts on throttle and brakes. I think either could *possibly* have an
> effect on mileage.

Only if you are driving such that ESC is activating often. I've only
had mine activate a couple of times during the past winter and I really
had to work to make it engage. The one time it did unexpectedly was
when I pulled onto a major highway that was covered with ice one
morning. I hit the throttle a little after shifting into second and the
engine started bucking like a bronco. I let off and it stopped. I did
it again and noticed the ESC light and put 2 and 2 together. I was
somewhat disappointed in how abrupt the ESC was. Nothing subtle about it.



> Hey, I'm with you Matt. I've tried mine with ESC off, and can't notice 1
> iota of difference. Others are saying it adversely affects their throttle
> action and general performance. I suppose it's possible that the ESC could
> be glitching, causing it to apply a little braking or impeding throttle
> input. Dunno!

I guess anything is possible if it is malfunctioning, but in normal
driving it shouldn't be doing anything other than monitoring.


Matt