jon R

I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to mention
potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel safe
driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.

pookeybrain

"jon R" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:vo0b3uhtrn0v20@corp.supernews.com...
> I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
> lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
> officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to mention
> potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel
safe
> driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
> opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.

Err, and this was where?

NobodyMan

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:36:46 -0000, jon R <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
>lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
>officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to mention
>potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel safe
>driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
>opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.

I'd have a lawyer making sure somebody from that shop was buying me a
new car.

Jon R

"pookeybrain" <China9988@21cn.com> wrote in
news:SgWfb.56938$Of2.2282414@twister.tampabay.rr.c om:

>
> "jon R" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
> news:vo0b3uhtrn0v20@corp.supernews.com...
>> I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off
>> the lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not
>> yet officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not
>> to mention potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I
>> could ever feel
> safe
>> driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof.
>> Any opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
>
> Err, and this was where?
>
>
BP Procare...Columbus, Ohio

David Spera

Surely they are paying for a rental car for you till their insurance
comes through?

Jon R wrote:

>"pookeybrain" <China9988@21cn.com> wrote in
>news:SgWfb.56938$Of2.2282414@twister.tampabay.rr. com:
>
>
>
>>"jon R" <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote in message
>>news:vo0b3uhtrn0v20@corp.supernews.com...
>>
>>
>>>I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off
>>>the lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not
>>>yet officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not
>>>to mention potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I
>>>could ever feel
>>>
>>>
>>safe
>>
>>
>>>driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof.
>>>Any opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
>>>
>>>
>>Err, and this was where?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>BP Procare...Columbus, Ohio
>
>

seahorse25@no.net

On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:36:46 -0000, jon R <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:

>I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
>lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
>officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to mention
>potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel safe
>driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
>opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
>==============

I know that doing your own maintenance isn't for everyone,
but the above is one more reason I rotate my own!

S25

David Spera

Please keep us informed as to the resolution.

jon R wrote:

>I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
>lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
>officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to mention
>potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel safe
>driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
>opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
>
>

news group

Look for simular model less miles .extended warrentee. plus car rental
reimbusement also ckeck tires on replacement also service records .make
sure replacement was not in any accidents.....
"David Spera" <spera@stargate.net> wrote in message
news:vo2pl95i7pr02@corp.supernews.com...
> Please keep us informed as to the resolution.
>
> jon R wrote:
>
> >I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
> >lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
> >officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to
mention
> >potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel
safe
> >driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
> >opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
> >
> >
>

FloridaSponge

Yep, I agree with the below reply...

Go for a new car. If they will not settle for a new car at least reject the
first -2- offers they give you on the one they totaled.


"NobodyMan" <none@none.net> wrote in message
newsi81ovk6m8o6ks64v2fvo1f0k43emok7cg@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 05 Oct 2003 14:36:46 -0000, jon R <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote:
>
> >I brought my 2001 Elantra GT in for a tire rotation and it fell off the
> >lift! (Unf&*(%$ing believable.)It's probably totalled, though not yet
> >officially estimated. (Twisted frame...lots of body damage, not to
mention
> >potential mechanical damage...at least I don't think I could ever feel
safe
> >driving it again.) It had 52,000 miles, 5-speed, no ABS, no sunroof. Any
> >opinions on what a fair settlement might be? Thanks.
>
> I'd have a lawyer making sure somebody from that shop was buying me a
> new car.
>
>

Jerry Kindall

In article <I1ggb.10499$qw.1010477@twister.tampabay.rr.com> ,
FloridaSponge <nowayspammers@hotmail.com> wrote:

> Yep, I agree with the below reply...
>
> Go for a new car. If they will not settle for a new car at least reject the
> first -2- offers they give you on the one they totaled.

The goal should to be make him whole, not to win the lottery. One's
time is worth something, to be sure, but it'd need to be worth a WHOLE
LOT to justify replacing a car with 50,000+ miles on it with a brand
new one. I'd say a 2001 model (which will likely have fewer miles) as
a replacement, plus equivalent warranty and rental and other expenses,
would suffice.

--
Jerry Kindall, Seattle, WA <http://www.jerrykindall.com/>
2003 Chianti Red Elantra GT
Send only plain text messages under 32K to the Reply-To address.
This mailbox is filtered aggressively to thwart spam and viruses.

Jon R

Yes, they are paying for a rental. They said they were going to look at the
car but still haven't.

Here was one of my thoughts but I don't want to short-change myself:

I looked on Kelly BlueBook site for the "retail" price of an similarly
equiped Elentra GT with 53000 miles. It came up to $9030. Then I add to
that tax of $610 and round up for incidentals such as title transfers, etc.
and come to something like $10,000. Yet, inside I do feel that they owe mw
something for the inconvenience and hassle? More thoughts?

Anyway I'll keep you all informed...


David Spera <spera@stargate.net> wrote in
news:vo1l5aa1klg169@corp.supernews.com:

> Surely they are paying for a rental car for you till their insurance
> comes through?
>

kurtis Harrison

This is where the legal system fails. The mechanic had a responsibility to
his customer. He was a "professional" hired to work on the car. Making it
"whole" is a legal cop out. It's sad that will probably be all Jon gets
(blue book). A typical legal set up is for the insurance to make a low
offer, then delay payment for as long as possible while Jon has to hire a
lawyer who will take more than 30% of the settlement. In the end he may be
lucky to get 40% of the car's value. Another used car may be OK if it
includes the 100K warranty, but if you get a used one, the warranty only
goes to 60K.

I sincerely hope the shop does well by Jon and gives him good customer
service. If he has to resort to the legal system keep in mind the most
corrupt part of our society is the legal system.


"Jerry Kindall" <jerrykindall@nospam.invalid> wrote in message
news:061020031400197240%jerrykindall@nospam.invali d...
> In article <I1ggb.10499$qw.1010477@twister.tampabay.rr.com> ,
> FloridaSponge <nowayspammers@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Yep, I agree with the below reply...
> >
> > Go for a new car. If they will not settle for a new car at least reject
the
> > first -2- offers they give you on the one they totaled.
>
> The goal should to be make him whole, not to win the lottery. One's
> time is worth something, to be sure, but it'd need to be worth a WHOLE
> LOT to justify replacing a car with 50,000+ miles on it with a brand
> new one. I'd say a 2001 model (which will likely have fewer miles) as
> a replacement, plus equivalent warranty and rental and other expenses,
> would suffice.
>
> --
> Jerry Kindall, Seattle, WA <http://www.jerrykindall.com/>
> 2003 Chianti Red Elantra GT
> Send only plain text messages under 32K to the Reply-To address.
> This mailbox is filtered aggressively to thwart spam and viruses.

pookeybrain

"kurtis Harrison" <kurtish111@suscom.net> wrote in message
news:vo44jca0rsm8c5@corp.supernews.com...
> This is where the legal system fails. The mechanic had a responsibility to
> his customer. He was a "professional" hired to work on the car. Making it
> "whole" is a legal cop out. It's sad that will probably be all Jon gets
> (blue book). A typical legal set up is for the insurance to make a low
> offer, then delay payment for as long as possible while Jon has to hire a
> lawyer who will take more than 30% of the settlement. In the end he may be
> lucky to get 40% of the car's value. Another used car may be OK if it
> includes the 100K warranty, but if you get a used one, the warranty only
> goes to 60K.
>
> I sincerely hope the shop does well by Jon and gives him good customer
> service. If he has to resort to the legal system keep in mind the most
> corrupt part of our society is the legal system.

I think this is going to depend entirely upon the shop's insurance company.
When my wife and kids were rear-ended by a guy with Geico, we were paid full
retail value for the car in 3 business days. They even compensated us for
the groceries in the trunk that were lost.

CHRIS WALLACE

a new elantra

Dmitry

thomaswallace@webtv.net (CHRIS WALLACE) wrote in message news:<17989-3F84D0A7-152@storefull-2173.public.lawson.webtv.net>...
> a new elantra


and a bug of chips!