The Awesome 1

I went nuts when national news 7/5 on every station was talking about
the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson as very poor in protecting from
whiplash & spinal injuries. When I bought the Tucson Premium Package
on 3/1/07, I read their ad stating it was rated at the top on all
points. Now you go to HyundaiUSA.com and see the Sante Fe, Entourage
& Vera Cruz rate high on 5 point crash test, but Tucson got 4 points.

I broke my neck with a drunk driver unlining my C6 & C7 which I
predict bad weather very well with it. After 6 months of traction I
am not intersted with going thru that gain. When I was rear ended at
75 mph a year ago April in the Sante Fe, I felt -0-. Car did very
well with just a cut in half bumper that was replaced. Tail pipe
also, which got me a new muffler too.

So I phone Hyundai USA & I am told by a Witch with a captial B, to
call my dealership, which I did & they told me to call Hyundai since
they have not issued a recall. Again she snips to call my
dealership. So the Manager has the issue now, and I was lied to when
I purchased the SUV.

hyundaitech

I'm not sure I understand your problem regarding the Tucson. What action
are you looking for the dealer or Hyundai to take?

mark

hyundaitech wrote:
> I'm not sure I understand your problem regarding the Tucson. What
> action are you looking for the dealer or Hyundai to take?

the great whine is just a troll..... she used to troll in the saturn group

left a saturn idling, with a police lightbar, radios, and other equipment
she had as a rent a cop at some college campus..... and whined when it puked
coolant all over the place.

she just abuses the equipment......

Mike Marlow

"The Awesome 1" <theawesome1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184080535.973027.61530@p39g2000hse.googlegro ups.com...
>I went nuts when national news 7/5 on every station was talking about
> the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson as very poor in protecting from
> whiplash & spinal injuries. When I bought the Tucson Premium Package
> on 3/1/07, I read their ad stating it was rated at the top on all
> points. Now you go to HyundaiUSA.com and see the Sante Fe, Entourage
> & Vera Cruz rate high on 5 point crash test, but Tucson got 4 points.
>
> I broke my neck with a drunk driver unlining my C6 & C7 which I
> predict bad weather very well with it. After 6 months of traction I
> am not intersted with going thru that gain. When I was rear ended at
> 75 mph a year ago April in the Sante Fe, I felt -0-. Car did very
> well with just a cut in half bumper that was replaced. Tail pipe
> also, which got me a new muffler too.
>
> So I phone Hyundai USA & I am told by a Witch with a captial B, to
> call my dealership, which I did & they told me to call Hyundai since
> they have not issued a recall. Again she snips to call my
> dealership. So the Manager has the issue now, and I was lied to when
> I purchased the SUV.
>

What in the world are you trying to say?

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mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

The Awesome 1

On Jul 10, 3:48 pm, "mark" <betrti...@alltel.net> wrote:
> hyundaitech wrote:
> > I'm not sure I understand your problem regarding the Tucson. What
> > action are you looking for the dealer or Hyundai to take?
>
> the great whine is just a troll..... she used to troll in the saturn group
>
> left a saturn idling, with a police lightbar, radios, and other equipment
> she had as a rent a cop at some college campus..... and whined when it puked
> coolant all over the place.
>
> she just abuses the equipment......

The jerk is back trolling me, as Saturn had a massive recall of all
station wagons for their oil mixing with collant blowing the engine
after we spent $750 for a new engine but we got our money back.

The Awesome 1

On Jul 10, 11:49 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel.net> wrote:
> "The Awesome 1" <theaweso...@yahoo.com> wrote in messagenews:1184080535.973027.61530@p39g2000hse.go oglegroups.com...
>
>
>
>
>
> >I went nuts when national news 7/5 on every station was talking about
> > the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson as very poor in protecting from
> > whiplash & spinal injuries. When I bought the Tucson Premium Package
> > on 3/1/07, I read their ad stating it was rated at the top on all
> > points. Now you go to HyundaiUSA.com and see the Sante Fe, Entourage
> > & Vera Cruz rate high on 5 point crash test, but Tucson got 4 points.
>
> > I broke my neck with a drunk driver unlining my C6 & C7 which I
> > predict bad weather very well with it. After 6 months of traction I
> > am not intersted with going thru that gain. When I was rear ended at
> > 75 mph a year ago April in the Sante Fe, I felt -0-. Car did very
> > well with just a cut in half bumper that was replaced. Tail pipe
> > also, which got me a new muffler too.
>
> > So I phone Hyundai USA & I am told by a Witch with a captial B, to
> > call my dealership, which I did & they told me to call Hyundai since
> > they have not issued a recall. Again she snips to call my
> > dealership. So the Manager has the issue now, and I was lied to when
> > I purchased the SUV.
>
> What in the world are you trying to say?
>
> --
>
> -Mike-
> mmarlowREM...@alltel.net- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

Can't read? The Tucson for 2007 is not 100% top rated, only 4 of 5
points & head restraints are not accemptable, but very poor.

Their ads at the dealer state 5 point check was top rated, when it
isn't. They even corrected it on the web site just listing the sante
fe, entourage and Vera Cruz, not the tucson as 5 point ratings
winners.

I did not buy a substandard car, but I have one now.........

KW

"The Awesome 1" <theawesome1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Jul 10, 11:49 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel.net> wrote:
> > "The Awesome 1" <theaweso...@yahoo.com> wrote in
messagenews:1184080535.973027.61530@p39g2000hse.go oglegroups.com...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > >I went nuts when national news 7/5 on every station was talking about
> > > the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson as very poor in protecting from
> > > whiplash & spinal injuries. When I bought the Tucson Premium Package
> > > on 3/1/07, I read their ad stating it was rated at the top on all
> > > points. Now you go to HyundaiUSA.com and see the Sante Fe, Entourage
> > > & Vera Cruz rate high on 5 point crash test, but Tucson got 4 points.
> >
> > > I broke my neck with a drunk driver unlining my C6 & C7 which I
> > > predict bad weather very well with it. After 6 months of traction I
> > > am not intersted with going thru that gain. When I was rear ended at
> > > 75 mph a year ago April in the Sante Fe, I felt -0-. Car did very
> > > well with just a cut in half bumper that was replaced. Tail pipe
> > > also, which got me a new muffler too.
> >
> > > So I phone Hyundai USA & I am told by a Witch with a captial B, to
> > > call my dealership, which I did & they told me to call Hyundai since
> > > they have not issued a recall. Again she snips to call my
> > > dealership. So the Manager has the issue now, and I was lied to when
> > > I purchased the SUV.
> >
> > What in the world are you trying to say?
> >
> > --
> >
> > -Mike-
> > mmarlowREM...@alltel.net- Hide quoted text -
> >
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> Can't read? The Tucson for 2007 is not 100% top rated, only 4 of 5
> points & head restraints are not accemptable, but very poor.
>
> Their ads at the dealer state 5 point check was top rated, when it
> isn't. They even corrected it on the web site just listing the sante
> fe, entourage and Vera Cruz, not the tucson as 5 point ratings
> winners.
>
> I did not buy a substandard car, but I have one now.........
>

Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it has
changed.

To restate, Mike's question slightly:
What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it? Furthermore,
if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal
intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been
robbed of that elusive 5th star?

KW

Victek

> Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it has
> changed.
>
> To restate, Mike's question slightly:
> What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it?
> Furthermore,
> if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal
> intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been
> robbed of that elusive 5th star?
>

I think the OP is expressing him/herself poorly, but trying to say that the
head restraint system (HRS) was claimed by Hyundai to be better then it in
fact is. Assuming that's true and because the OP experienced a serious
injury which theoretically could have been prevented or lessened by the HRS,
the OP feels that Hyundai should take responsibility in some way. At least
that's what I think the OP is trying to say...?

hyundaitech

I definitely perceived that tone, too, Vic. But the question remains, what
does the OP want Hyundai or the dealer to do? If the OP is willing to tell
us this little tidbit, we may be able to provide some guidance.

Steve R.

Another case of web material as gospel. Be careful what you read. In
addition, it's not a perfect world. Did anyone else here have an all-steel
dash, or was it just me?

Vehicles have come a long way in the past 10 years. The problem with us all
is that we've become accustomed to "gotta have it now!" and sue-happy if the
shoe doesn't fit....

Really, I am substance free!!!

Steve, AZ


"hyundaitech" <notpublic@not.public.com> wrote in message
news:dfde91d2a2f60aaf58c1377e21b93ea8@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>I definitely perceived that tone, too, Vic. But the question remains, what
> does the OP want Hyundai or the dealer to do? If the OP is willing to
> tell
> us this little tidbit, we may be able to provide some guidance.
>
>

KW

"Victek" <Victek@xyz.com> wrote in message
news:0A6li.38406$Um6.31577@newssvr12.news.prodigy. net...
>
>
>
> > Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it
has
> > changed.
> >
> > To restate, Mike's question slightly:
> > What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it?
> > Furthermore,
> > if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal
> > intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been
> > robbed of that elusive 5th star?
> >
>
> I think the OP is expressing him/herself poorly, but trying to say that
the
> head restraint system (HRS) was claimed by Hyundai to be better then it in
> fact is. Assuming that's true and because the OP experienced a serious
> injury which theoretically could have been prevented or lessened by the
HRS,
> the OP feels that Hyundai should take responsibility in some way. At
least
> that's what I think the OP is trying to say...?
>

I read it as the injury happened in the past and TA1 bought the Tuc because
of the claimed 5 star rating and now wants someone to pay for the missing
star.....could be wrong as I'm having a glass half empty kinda day <G>
Still don't understand how any vehicle could even get a 4 star rating with a
score of *poor* on such a key safety measure as head & neck restraint test
results.

KW

Vic Garcia

KW wrote:

"Victek" &lt;Victek@xyz.com&gt; wrote in message news:0A6li.38406$Um6.31577@newssvr12.news.prodigy.net...







Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it



has



changed. To restate, Mike's question slightly: What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it? Furthermore, if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been robbed of that elusive 5th star?



I think the OP is expressing him/herself poorly, but trying to say that



the



head restraint system (HRS) was claimed by Hyundai to be better then it in fact is. Assuming that's true and because the OP experienced a serious injury which theoretically could have been prevented or lessened by the



HRS,



the OP feels that Hyundai should take responsibility in some way. At



least



that's what I think the OP is trying to say...?



I read it as the injury happened in the past and TA1 bought the Tuc because of the claimed 5 star rating and now wants someone to pay for the missing star.....could be wrong as I'm having a glass half empty kinda day &lt;G&gt; Still don't understand how any vehicle could even get a 4 star rating with a score of *poor* on such a key safety measure as head &amp; neck restraint test results. KW

What I find amazing is the OP claim about the Tucson been 4 stars rated .... where he got that from ?????
Just checked the NHTSA database the rating for the 2007 model is 5 starts for frontal and side impact, that's the higher rating possible, so what's the problem ??????

See:
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/Index2.cfm?myClass=SUV&amp;myYear=2007&amp;myMake= Hyundai&amp;myModel=Tucson&amp;GoButton=View+speci fic+vehicle

jp103

What I would like to know is; Why in the world would you get a Tuc if a
year ago you were rear ended at 75mph and had 0 injuries, a split
bumper, and tailpipe damage in a SF (which incidentally has a P rating
for 2001-2006 and is the same rating as the 07 TUC) according to the
IIHS http://www.iihs.org/ratings/head_res...s.aspx?hyundai

If that were me I would have gotten another SF as that seems like a
mighty tough car that is well worth the extra gas penalty for such
outstanding protection.

We all must learn that if we want 100% survivability we must have
separate roads with barriers separating for different weight class
vehicles, limit our speeds to less than 10mph, have all cars equipped
with fuel bladders, have a full roll cage and wear such items as a nomex
driving suit and helmet. Even then I'm sure that something might get
you - like falling off a 2000' precipice into a 500' deep lake.


Vic Garcia wrote:
> KW wrote:
>> "Victek" <Victek@xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:0A6li.38406$Um6.31577@newssvr12.news.prodigy. net...
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it
>>>>
>> has
>>
>>>> changed.
>>>>
>>>> To restate, Mike's question slightly:
>>>> What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it?
>>>> Furthermore,
>>>> if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal
>>>> intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been
>>>> robbed of that elusive 5th star?
>>>>
>>>>
>>> I think the OP is expressing him/herself poorly, but trying to say that
>>>
>> the
>>
>>> head restraint system (HRS) was claimed by Hyundai to be better then it in
>>> fact is. Assuming that's true and because the OP experienced a serious
>>> injury which theoretically could have been prevented or lessened by the
>>>
>> HRS,
>>
>>> the OP feels that Hyundai should take responsibility in some way. At
>>>
>> least
>>
>>> that's what I think the OP is trying to say...?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> I read it as the injury happened in the past and TA1 bought the Tuc because
>> of the claimed 5 star rating and now wants someone to pay for the missing
>> star.....could be wrong as I'm having a glass half empty kinda day <G>
>> Still don't understand how any vehicle could even get a 4 star rating with a
>> score of *poor* on such a key safety measure as head & neck restraint test
>> results.
>>
>> KW
>>
>>
>>
> What I find amazing is the OP claim about the Tucson been 4 stars rated
> .... where he got that from ?????
> Just checked the NHTSA database the rating for the 2007 model is 5
> starts for frontal and side impact, that's the higher rating possible,
> so what's the problem ??????
>
> See:
> /_http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/ncap/Index2.cfm?myClass=SUV&myYear=2007&myMake=Hyundai& myModel=Tucson&GoButton=View+specific+vehicle_/
>
>

Mike Marlow

"The Awesome 1" <theawesome1@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1184155818.821785.239020@d55g2000hsg.googlegr oups.com...
> On Jul 10, 11:49 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREM...@alltel.net> wrote:
>> "The Awesome 1" <theaweso...@yahoo.com> wrote in
>> messagenews:1184080535.973027.61530@p39g2000hse.go oglegroups.com...

>>
>> >I went nuts when national news 7/5 on every station was talking about
>> > the Kia Sportage & Hyundai Tucson as very poor in protecting from
>> > whiplash & spinal injuries. When I bought the Tucson Premium Package
>> > on 3/1/07, I read their ad stating it was rated at the top on all
>> > points. Now you go to HyundaiUSA.com and see the Sante Fe, Entourage
>> > & Vera Cruz rate high on 5 point crash test, but Tucson got 4 points.
>>
>> > I broke my neck with a drunk driver unlining my C6 & C7 which I
>> > predict bad weather very well with it. After 6 months of traction I
>> > am not intersted with going thru that gain. When I was rear ended at
>> > 75 mph a year ago April in the Sante Fe, I felt -0-. Car did very
>> > well with just a cut in half bumper that was replaced. Tail pipe
>> > also, which got me a new muffler too.
>>
>> > So I phone Hyundai USA & I am told by a Witch with a captial B, to
>> > call my dealership, which I did & they told me to call Hyundai since
>> > they have not issued a recall. Again she snips to call my
>> > dealership. So the Manager has the issue now, and I was lied to when
>> > I purchased the SUV.
>>
>> What in the world are you trying to say?
>>
>> --
>>
>> -Mike-
>> mmarlowREM...@alltel.net- Hide quoted text -
>>
>> - Show quoted text -
>
> Can't read? The Tucson for 2007 is not 100% top rated, only 4 of 5
> points & head restraints are not accemptable, but very poor.

I can read quite well. Rather, you seem to have a problem writing. You
rambled some crap about going nuts, then rambled some crap about the rating
being 4 instead of 5, then you drifted off into some impossible to
understand diatribe about some accident you'd been in. The next thing you
do is babble some stuff about calling Hyundai. Man - you either have some
issues or you need to learn to communicate better.

>
> Their ads at the dealer state 5 point check was top rated, when it
> isn't. They even corrected it on the web site just listing the sante
> fe, entourage and Vera Cruz, not the tucson as 5 point ratings
> winners.
>
> I did not buy a substandard car, but I have one now.........
>

Substandard? Please define substandard.

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Mike Marlow

"Vic Garcia" <VicGar007@at-gmail.com> wrote in message
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> KW wrote:
> "Victek" <Victek@xyz.com> wrote in message
> news:0A6li.38406$Um6.31577@newssvr12.news.prodigy. net...
>
> Actually, it is *Exactly* the same car .....only your *opinion* of it
> has
> changed.
>
> To restate, Mike's question slightly:
> What do you expect Hyundai USA or your dealer to do about it?
> Furthermore,
> if not trolling, what do you hope to accomplish by your digitized verbal
> intercourse on this newsgroup about your dissatisfaction of having been
> robbed of that elusive 5th star?
>
> I think the OP is expressing him/herself poorly, but trying to say
> that
> the
> head restraint system (HRS) was claimed by Hyundai to be better then it
> in
> fact is. Assuming that's true and because the OP experienced a serious
> injury which theoretically could have been prevented or lessened by the
> HRS,
> the OP feels that Hyundai should take responsibility in some way. At
> least
> that's what I think the OP is trying to say...?
>
>
> I read it as the injury happened in the past and TA1 bought the Tuc
> because
> of the claimed 5 star rating and now wants someone to pay for the missing
> star.....could be wrong as I'm having a glass half empty kinda day <G>
> Still don't understand how any vehicle could even get a 4 star rating with
> a
> score of *poor* on such a key safety measure as head & neck restraint test
> results.
>
> KW
>
>
> What I find amazing is the OP claim about the Tucson been 4 stars rated
> .... where he got that from ?????
> Just checked the NHTSA database the rating for the 2007 model is 5 starts
> for frontal and side impact, that's the higher rating possible, so what's
> the problem ??????
>

I found many things to be amazing with the OP's post. Most amazing was a
75mph collision which only damaged a bumper, yet resulted in two fractured
vertibrae. That just does not add up. I think there's much more to this
story...

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