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Peet 06-22-2006 08:37 AM

Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Is there a way to install this WRONGLY? The one side is flat with a
groove in the middle and the other side is semi-circular. Which side
goes into the oil pan hole and which side fits against the drain plug
head?


Rev. Tom Wenndt 06-22-2006 12:06 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.

Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
re-use it, it will leak.

Hope this helps.

Tom Wenndt


"Peet" <p1@webafrica.org.za> wrote in message
news:1150979825.359351.133770@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Is there a way to install this WRONGLY? The one side is flat with a
> groove in the middle and the other side is semi-circular. Which side
> goes into the oil pan hole and which side fits against the drain plug
> head?
>




Rev. Tom Wenndt 06-22-2006 12:06 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.

Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
re-use it, it will leak.

Hope this helps.

Tom Wenndt


"Peet" <p1@webafrica.org.za> wrote in message
news:1150979825.359351.133770@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Is there a way to install this WRONGLY? The one side is flat with a
> groove in the middle and the other side is semi-circular. Which side
> goes into the oil pan hole and which side fits against the drain plug
> head?
>




Rev. Tom Wenndt 06-22-2006 12:06 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.

Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
re-use it, it will leak.

Hope this helps.

Tom Wenndt


"Peet" <p1@webafrica.org.za> wrote in message
news:1150979825.359351.133770@m73g2000cwd.googlegr oups.com...
> Is there a way to install this WRONGLY? The one side is flat with a
> groove in the middle and the other side is semi-circular. Which side
> goes into the oil pan hole and which side fits against the drain plug
> head?
>




Brian Nystrom 06-23-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
need to handle oily drain plugs.

Brian Nystrom 06-23-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
need to handle oily drain plugs.

Brian Nystrom 06-23-2006 08:07 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
need to handle oily drain plugs.

Mike Marlow 06-23-2006 08:37 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LPQmg.11809$d9.9647@trndny04...

> Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
> eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
> need to handle oily drain plugs.


I've wondered how these work. Haven't really ever heard anyone who actually
used one over a period of time make a comment about them. How long have you
had yours in Brian? How many oil changes has it gone through?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 06-23-2006 08:37 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LPQmg.11809$d9.9647@trndny04...

> Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
> eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
> need to handle oily drain plugs.


I've wondered how these work. Haven't really ever heard anyone who actually
used one over a period of time make a comment about them. How long have you
had yours in Brian? How many oil changes has it gone through?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 06-23-2006 08:37 AM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:LPQmg.11809$d9.9647@trndny04...

> Better yet, replace the plug with a Fram or Fumoto drain valve and
> eliminate the need to replace the crush washers. They also eliminate the
> need to handle oily drain plugs.


I've wondered how these work. Haven't really ever heard anyone who actually
used one over a period of time make a comment about them. How long have you
had yours in Brian? How many oil changes has it gone through?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



JS 06-23-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


You should tell that to the original "crushable" o-ring under my 01
Santa Fe.

13 oil changes later, no leaks at the drain plug. I wish I could say
that for the valve cover (leaking at gasket) that the idiot "Hyundai
Certified" mechanic removed...

IMHO, if you're destroying those rings on every usage (at least the
brass/copper ones like the factory used) you really need to lay off the
drain plug torque - its not a lugnut.

JS


JS 06-23-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


You should tell that to the original "crushable" o-ring under my 01
Santa Fe.

13 oil changes later, no leaks at the drain plug. I wish I could say
that for the valve cover (leaking at gasket) that the idiot "Hyundai
Certified" mechanic removed...

IMHO, if you're destroying those rings on every usage (at least the
brass/copper ones like the factory used) you really need to lay off the
drain plug torque - its not a lugnut.

JS


JS 06-23-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain plug -
> it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan. That is one
> of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what provides the seal.
>
> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
> re-use it, it will leak.


You should tell that to the original "crushable" o-ring under my 01
Santa Fe.

13 oil changes later, no leaks at the drain plug. I wish I could say
that for the valve cover (leaking at gasket) that the idiot "Hyundai
Certified" mechanic removed...

IMHO, if you're destroying those rings on every usage (at least the
brass/copper ones like the factory used) you really need to lay off the
drain plug torque - its not a lugnut.

JS


Rev. Tom Wenndt 06-23-2006 02:12 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
You have me laughing at that, because often I have accused "fast oil change"
mechanics of using the occasion to tighten the drain plug to do their
chin-up exercises - it is unbelievable how tight that drain plug is when
anybody other than me does the oil change.

Usually I only use two or three fingers on the wrench.

But still, if I forget to change that O-ring (which I have done twice), they
have leaked.

But the dealer gives me a whole bag-full for nothing, so it is no big deal
for me to change them.

Thanx for the info.

Tom Wenndt


"JS" <jsuter@intrastardot.net> wrote in message
news:NtVmg.22547$th1.18793@fe15.usenetserver.com.. .
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain
>> plug - it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan.
>> That is one of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what
>> provides the seal.
>>
>> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
>> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
>> re-use it, it will leak.

>
> You should tell that to the original "crushable" o-ring under my 01 Santa
> Fe.
>
> 13 oil changes later, no leaks at the drain plug. I wish I could say that
> for the valve cover (leaking at gasket) that the idiot "Hyundai Certified"
> mechanic removed...
>
> IMHO, if you're destroying those rings on every usage (at least the
> brass/copper ones like the factory used) you really need to lay off the
> drain plug torque - its not a lugnut.
>
> JS
>




Rev. Tom Wenndt 06-23-2006 02:12 PM

Re: Oil Drain Plug Gasket installation
 
You have me laughing at that, because often I have accused "fast oil change"
mechanics of using the occasion to tighten the drain plug to do their
chin-up exercises - it is unbelievable how tight that drain plug is when
anybody other than me does the oil change.

Usually I only use two or three fingers on the wrench.

But still, if I forget to change that O-ring (which I have done twice), they
have leaked.

But the dealer gives me a whole bag-full for nothing, so it is no big deal
for me to change them.

Thanx for the info.

Tom Wenndt


"JS" <jsuter@intrastardot.net> wrote in message
news:NtVmg.22547$th1.18793@fe15.usenetserver.com.. .
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
>> The groove in the middle should go "out" as you place it on the drain
>> plug - it will eventually be the side that goes against the oil pan.
>> That is one of those "crush-able" o-rings, and that groove is what
>> provides the seal.
>>
>> Key is to ALWAYS make sure you replace these crushable o-rings with every
>> oil change. After they have been deformed that first time, if you try to
>> re-use it, it will leak.

>
> You should tell that to the original "crushable" o-ring under my 01 Santa
> Fe.
>
> 13 oil changes later, no leaks at the drain plug. I wish I could say that
> for the valve cover (leaking at gasket) that the idiot "Hyundai Certified"
> mechanic removed...
>
> IMHO, if you're destroying those rings on every usage (at least the
> brass/copper ones like the factory used) you really need to lay off the
> drain plug torque - its not a lugnut.
>
> JS
>





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