Oil filter bulletin
09-12-2004, 08:23 AM
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Oil filter bulletin
This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
warranty.
The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
Hyundai models.
The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
affected.
To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
be covered under warranty.
warranty.
The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
Hyundai models.
The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
affected.
To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
be covered under warranty.
09-13-2004, 10:43 AM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
"Gman" <gman@gworld.net> wrote in message
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> This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
> warranty.
>
>
> The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
> to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
> Hyundai models.
>
>
> The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
> and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
> affected.
>
>
> To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
> Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
> Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
> be covered under warranty.
Nothing new about the type of statement in the last paragraph. My question
would be: How could a filter (or any other part) that meets or exceeds SAE
standards as specified by Hyundai be the cause of damage?
09-13-2004, 10:54 AM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
Relax, it's just a B.S. disclaimer. Legally, they don't have a leg to
stand on unless they can prove that an aftermarket filter or oil change
caused a problem.
Gman wrote:
> This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
> warranty.
>
>
> The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
> to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
> Hyundai models.
>
>
> The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
> and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
> affected.
>
>
> To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
> Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
> Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
> be covered under warranty.
stand on unless they can prove that an aftermarket filter or oil change
caused a problem.
Gman wrote:
> This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
> warranty.
>
>
> The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
> to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
> Hyundai models.
>
>
> The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
> and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
> affected.
>
>
> To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
> Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
> Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
> be covered under warranty.
09-13-2004, 08:03 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:23:09 -0500, Gman <gman@gworld.net> wrote:
>This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
>warranty.
>
>
>The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
>to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
>Hyundai models.
>
>
>The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
>and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
>affected.
>
>
>To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
>Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
>Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
>be covered under warranty.
SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
my butt???
>This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
>warranty.
>
>
>The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
>to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
>Hyundai models.
>
>
>The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
>and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
>affected.
>
>
>To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
>Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
>Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
>be covered under warranty.
SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
my butt???
09-13-2004, 10:21 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
"Gman" <gman@gworld.net> wrote in message
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> On Sun, 12 Sep 2004 07:23:09 -0500, Gman <gman@gworld.net> wrote:
>
> >This Suxs...have to buy their filter or all bets are off under
> >warranty.
> >
> >
> >The engine oil filter has been superseded from part number 26300-35500
> >to part number 26300-35501. This oil filter is currently used on all
> >Hyundai models.
> >
> >
> >The change is cosmetic, to include the words Kia Motors, the Kia logo
> >and the new part number. Form, fit and function have not been
> >affected.
> >
> >
> >To insure proper filtration of the lubrication system, only Hyundai
> >Genuine Parts should be installed by a Hyundai approved facility.
> >Damage resulting from parts other than Hyundai Genuine Parts may not
> >be covered under warranty.
> SO...techman...are you saying .. I need to use their filter to cover
> my butt???
I think the point is that IF the filter was defective AND not a Hyundai part
THEN the warranty MIGHT be challenged. IF the filter IS a Hyundai part THEN
it is all Hyundai so not an issue.
09-14-2004, 07:21 AM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
hyundaitech wrote:
> That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a factory
> part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
> consequential damage.
Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
> That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a factory
> part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
> consequential damage.
Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
09-14-2004, 05:45 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
09-14-2004, 05:47 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
Right. The factory will stand behind any Hyundai part you purchase for 1
year/12k miles or the recommended maintenance interval for that part,
whichever comes first. And they'll cover consequential damage, too.
That's much better than any aftermarket product I've ever heard of.
year/12k miles or the recommended maintenance interval for that part,
whichever comes first. And they'll cover consequential damage, too.
That's much better than any aftermarket product I've ever heard of.
09-14-2004, 08:00 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
The Hyundai filter has a ball value in it to prevent the engine from
draining back down from the heads. So I'm told.
Wik also makes this filter, confirmed by my dealer
Another person had this statement about the filter/warranty
Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them
according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part
voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to
maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but
encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent
(i.e. Purolator, etc).
Except from Act:
While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide
a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided.
Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: "(c) No warrantor of a
consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such
product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any
article or service (other than article or service provided without
charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand,
trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this
subsection may be waived by the Commission if - ((1)the warrantor
satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function
properly only if the article or service so identified is used in
connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds
that such a waiver is in the public interest." ((42 U.S.C.2302(C))
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"hyundaitech" <howitsac@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My posts were meant to cover the United States only. I don't know what
> policies/procedures are in any other country.
>
draining back down from the heads. So I'm told.
Wik also makes this filter, confirmed by my dealer
Another person had this statement about the filter/warranty
Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them
according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part
voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to
maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but
encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent
(i.e. Purolator, etc).
Except from Act:
While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide
a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided.
Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: "(c) No warrantor of a
consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such
product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any
article or service (other than article or service provided without
charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand,
trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this
subsection may be waived by the Commission if - ((1)the warrantor
satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function
properly only if the article or service so identified is used in
connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds
that such a waiver is in the public interest." ((42 U.S.C.2302(C))
-
"hyundaitech" <howitsac@nospam.hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> My posts were meant to cover the United States only. I don't know what
> policies/procedures are in any other country.
>
09-14-2004, 09:41 PM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
My Taurus SHO with high pressure and volume will NEVER get a Fram oil filter
after I saw the cardboard end caps and the lack of anti-drain back
mechanism. I'm not sold on any particular brand, only the specs and quality
of construction.
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
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> hyundaitech wrote:
> > That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a
factory
> > part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
> > consequential damage.
>
> Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
> defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
> billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
> in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
>
after I saw the cardboard end caps and the lack of anti-drain back
mechanism. I'm not sold on any particular brand, only the specs and quality
of construction.
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@att.net> wrote in message
news:qvA1d.363923$OB3.197240@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
> hyundaitech wrote:
> > That's what they're talking about. A defective part that's not a
factory
> > part is of course not covered by the vehicle's warranty. Nor is the
> > consequential damage.
>
> Exactly. The question is: When was the last time that anyone had a
> defective oil filter? As with any product that's been made in the
> billions, I'm sure there are occasional bad ones, but I haven't seen one
> in 30 years of doing my own oil changes.
>
09-15-2004, 08:54 AM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
hyundaitech wrote:
> I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
> for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
> car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
> Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
> this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
> sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
like Pep Boys - are well regarded.
> I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
> for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
> car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
> Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
> this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
> sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
like Pep Boys - are well regarded.
09-16-2004, 11:17 AM
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Re: Oil filter bulletin
"Brian Nystrom"
> hyundaitech wrote:
>
> > I've heard about some issues with some Fram oil filters starving the engine
> > for oil. I don't know whether they were defective, the wrong one for the
> > car, or what the story was, but apparently it's happened enought that
> > Hyundai has requested notification if these cars come into the dealer with
> > this issue. This also isn't intended as a slam on Fram oil filters. I
> > sometimes use them on my car and have never had a problem.
>
> FWIW, it seems that the current consensus on Fram filters is that while
> they used to be a good product "way back when...", they're now basically
> junk. I won't use them. There are plenty of other filters with solid
> reputations available just as easily and at similar prices. For example,
> Purolator - or the rebadged house-brand filters they make for companies
> like Pep Boys - are well regarded.
Wix are quality filters too. Also sold as NAPA Gold.