oil pan problem
02-18-2006, 07:43 PM
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oil pan problem
I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
worked.
Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
my oil pan.
service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
worked.
Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
my oil pan.
02-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
lenja wrote:
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
02-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
lenja wrote:
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
02-18-2006, 07:46 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
lenja wrote:
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
> I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
Matt
02-18-2006, 08:11 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil
)
....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil
)....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
02-18-2006, 08:11 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil)
....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil
)....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
02-18-2006, 08:11 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil)
....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
one? ??
Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
(and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
JibbyJube job,
Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
have any ideas for rigs...
I mean, its ONLY the oil
)....Lenja, its time for a new pan .
"lenja" <lsyrkin@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1140309802.326969.42920@z14g2000cwz.googlegro ups.com...
>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> worked.
> Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>
> Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> my oil pan.
>
02-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
news wrote:
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil)
>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil
)>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
02-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
news wrote:
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil)
>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil
)>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
02-18-2006, 08:27 PM
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Re: oil pan problem
news wrote:
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil)
>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
> This sounds like a sleekly situation, Mike, Bob, you guys wanna handle this
> one? ??
>
> Matt is right, im not getting any younger & my back hurts. I get tired of
> changing my own oil, but its seems thats the only way i know its done RIGHT
> (and economically) I had a similar situation on my wrecked 90" ZX after a
> JibbyJube job,
>
> Unless its really loose, maybe there's a TEMP. Teflon thing to use?? anyone
> have any ideas for rigs...
> I mean, its ONLY the oil
)>
> ...Lenja, its time for a new pan .
Personally, the only fix I would trust is a heli-coil. However, often
the cost of doing that right is almost as much as a replacement pan.
And there likely isn't any need to buy a new one as you may be able to
find a good used one in a salvage yard for 25% of the cost or less.
A heli-coil is a sound solution, but it is hard to do with the pan on
the engine without risking leaving metal shavings in the pan. And if
you go to the trouble of removing the pan, then you might as well just
replace it with a good used one and be back to where you started.
Matt
02-19-2006, 08:09 AM
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Re: oil pan problem
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> lenja wrote:
>
> > I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> > service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> > thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> > retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> > worked.
> > Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> > dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> > work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> > my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> > the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> > owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> > blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
> >
> > Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> > to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> > my oil pan.
> >
>
> Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
> the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
> fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
> threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
> sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
> personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
> However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>
I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
undercarriage.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
02-19-2006, 08:09 AM
#12
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Re: oil pan problem
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> lenja wrote:
>
> > I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> > service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> > thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> > retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> > worked.
> > Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> > dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> > work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> > my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> > the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> > owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> > blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
> >
> > Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> > to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> > my oil pan.
> >
>
> Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
> the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
> fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
> threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
> sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
> personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
> However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>
I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
undercarriage.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
02-19-2006, 08:09 AM
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Re: oil pan problem
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
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> lenja wrote:
>
> > I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
> > service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
> > thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
> > retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
> > worked.
> > Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
> > dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
> > work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
> > my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
> > the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
> > owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
> > blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
> >
> > Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
> > to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
> > my oil pan.
> >
>
> Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
> the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
> fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
> threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
> sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
> personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
> However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>
I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
undercarriage.
--
-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
02-19-2006, 09:28 AM
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Re: oil pan problem
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:YdPJf.6321$lb.562261@news1.epix.net...
>
>>lenja wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
>>>service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
>>>thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
>>>retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
>>>worked.
>>>Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
>>>dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
>>>work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
>>>my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
>>>the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
>>>owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
>>>blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>>>
>>>Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
>>>to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
>>>my oil pan.
>>>
>>
>>Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
>>the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
>>fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
>>threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
>>sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
>>personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
>>However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>>
>
>
> I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
> to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
> quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
> undercarriage.
Unfortunately, even lack of an oil leak doesn't implicate the last
dealer with any level of certainty. A cross threaded plug will often
leak, but a plug that was overtightened stripping the threads, often
won't leak. The person who put the plug in should have felt the threads
yield as it is a fairly obvious (and sickening!) feeling. However, the
drain plug will often remain very tight and nobody else will know until
they remove the plug and find that the threads from the oil pan come out
with it.
I'd probably try to get each dealer to split the cost of the repair as a
goodwill gesture since you can't be sure who did it. They may or may
not go for that, but it seems a reasonable compromise to me.
Matt
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:YdPJf.6321$lb.562261@news1.epix.net...
>
>>lenja wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
>>>service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
>>>thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
>>>retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
>>>worked.
>>>Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
>>>dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
>>>work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
>>>my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
>>>the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
>>>owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
>>>blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>>>
>>>Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
>>>to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
>>>my oil pan.
>>>
>>
>>Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
>>the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
>>fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
>>threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
>>sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
>>personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
>>However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>>
>
>
> I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
> to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
> quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
> undercarriage.
Unfortunately, even lack of an oil leak doesn't implicate the last
dealer with any level of certainty. A cross threaded plug will often
leak, but a plug that was overtightened stripping the threads, often
won't leak. The person who put the plug in should have felt the threads
yield as it is a fairly obvious (and sickening!) feeling. However, the
drain plug will often remain very tight and nobody else will know until
they remove the plug and find that the threads from the oil pan come out
with it.
I'd probably try to get each dealer to split the cost of the repair as a
goodwill gesture since you can't be sure who did it. They may or may
not go for that, but it seems a reasonable compromise to me.
Matt
02-19-2006, 09:28 AM
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Re: oil pan problem
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:YdPJf.6321$lb.562261@news1.epix.net...
>
>>lenja wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
>>>service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
>>>thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
>>>retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
>>>worked.
>>>Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
>>>dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
>>>work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
>>>my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
>>>the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
>>>owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
>>>blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>>>
>>>Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
>>>to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
>>>my oil pan.
>>>
>>
>>Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
>>the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
>>fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
>>threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
>>sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
>>personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
>>However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>>
>
>
> I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
> to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
> quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
> undercarriage.
Unfortunately, even lack of an oil leak doesn't implicate the last
dealer with any level of certainty. A cross threaded plug will often
leak, but a plug that was overtightened stripping the threads, often
won't leak. The person who put the plug in should have felt the threads
yield as it is a fairly obvious (and sickening!) feeling. However, the
drain plug will often remain very tight and nobody else will know until
they remove the plug and find that the threads from the oil pan come out
with it.
I'd probably try to get each dealer to split the cost of the repair as a
goodwill gesture since you can't be sure who did it. They may or may
not go for that, but it seems a reasonable compromise to me.
Matt
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:YdPJf.6321$lb.562261@news1.epix.net...
>
>>lenja wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I had a service at Hyundai dealership that included oil change. A
>>>service advicer called me and said that oil pan plug had damaged
>>>thread. He blamed a shop where I did last oil change. He suggested to
>>>retap and install larger plug. It was done and I was told that it
>>>worked.
>>>Next morning I found a big oil spill on my driveway. I went back to the
>>>dealer. The manager said that unfortunately the larger plug did not
>>>work and suggested to replace pan for about $350. Moreover the pan for
>>>my Elantra 99 is 'a special order' and I have to wait. Then I went to
>>>the local shop where the previous oil chage was done. The
>>>owner/mechanic said it was the dealer's fault. They just wanted to
>>>blame someone else. So, I got in the middle.
>>>
>>>Could anyone advice me what to do in this situation? I feel that I have
>>>to pay for the repair as it is impossible to prove which mechanic broke
>>>my oil pan.
>>>
>>
>>Not much you can do since you really can't prove who is lying. This is
>>the main reason I still do my own oil changes, even though it gets less
>>fun every year older that I get. Typically, a plug that is cross
>>threaded won't seal well and will leak at least a little. If you are
>>sure no oil was leaking prior to you visit to the last dealer, I'd
>>personally suspect they caused the damage rather than the first place.
>>However, I know of no way to tell for sure.
>>
>
>
> I'd head back to the dealer and tell them that there was *no* oil leak prior
> to their work on the car (assuming that really is the case). It would be
> quite obvious because any oil leak is going to leave telltale signs on the
> undercarriage.
Unfortunately, even lack of an oil leak doesn't implicate the last
dealer with any level of certainty. A cross threaded plug will often
leak, but a plug that was overtightened stripping the threads, often
won't leak. The person who put the plug in should have felt the threads
yield as it is a fairly obvious (and sickening!) feeling. However, the
drain plug will often remain very tight and nobody else will know until
they remove the plug and find that the threads from the oil pan come out
with it.
I'd probably try to get each dealer to split the cost of the repair as a
goodwill gesture since you can't be sure who did it. They may or may
not go for that, but it seems a reasonable compromise to me.
Matt