Huge

"Spyvid" <mint@intel.net> wrote in message
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> When are you too old to drive?

When you drive at 24 mph like every er does now!
When you drive at below 40mph in a 60 limit
When you drive through a 40 mph speed camera at 30mph
When you don't overtake twatting single cyclist who should be paying
insurance and road fund licence anyway
When you don't overtake twatting packs of cyclists who are ignorant bastards
whom deserve to be knocked off
When you slow down for horses who have the cheek to wave their arms
incessantly should you be driving normally
When you jam your brakes on without warning to let some pensioner out of a
side street nearly causing a pile-up
When the lights are on green so you brake whilst aproaching just waiting for
them to stop
When you block the whole ing road doing a right turn at traffic lights
blocking everyone who wants to go left or straight on
When you drive a honda, every ing idiot drives a honda
When you drive a hyundai getz, every ing pensioner drives a getz
When you drive a people carrier, every ing clueless bitch drives a
people carrier
When you stop for no apparent reason when emergency vehicles are travelling
towards you overtaking nothing?
When you have nothing more to do with your time than go shopping
When you have nothing more to do with your life than go to the garden centre
When you pull completely across a T junction to use your mobile phone
When you reverse your delivery truck down a cul-de-sac and block the whole
ing road- ignorant bastards!
When you drive a bin-truck, lowest of the low, do the same to them if you
get chance block the whole road when theres plenty of parking space and make
the brain dead ers wait!
When you work for the council, who are so over staffed due to council tax
they have all day to do 3 miles (see above)

Theres hundreds more... feel free to add

Get these ***** off the road? so we can move, simple, increase driving age
to 25, another test at 50 and thereafter ever 5 years, and dont get me
started about ing HGV drivers, professional drivers? MY ****! the worst
drivers on the road ! (bar the influx of pensioners that are still
breathing)

Adrian

Huge (huge@huge.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying
:

> When you drive through a 40 mph speed camera at 30mph

I was in somebody else's Espace this pm, with a nice large digital speedo
in the middle of the dash.

The wit in front of us slowed down from 29mph on spotting a camera in a
30 limit - to 22mph. And stayed there for about 500m after it - whereupon
she slowed down for the roundabout 500m later...

Huge

"Adrian" <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Huge (huge@huge.uk) gurgled happily, sounding much like they were saying
> :
>
>> When you drive through a 40 mph speed camera at 30mph
>
> I was in somebody else's Espace this pm, with a nice large digital speedo
> in the middle of the dash.
>
> The wit in front of us slowed down from 29mph on spotting a camera in
> a
> 30 limit - to 22mph. And stayed there for about 500m after it - whereupon
> she slowed down for the roundabout 500m later...

Yeah and those too, my list was events from just from last week..
What is it with everyone driving at 24 mph? always ing pensioners or
women or people driving hondas or SILVER CARS!

(PeteCresswell)

Per Adrian:
>in front of us slowed down from 29mph on spotting a camera in a
>30 limit - to 22mph. And stayed there for about 500m after it

The ones that get me are those that hit the brakes when they see a trooper
writing somebody a ticket..... I mean... like the guy's gonna throw down his
ticket book, leap into his cruiser and come after somebody that he magically
knew was speeding just by eyeballing them...

--
PeteCresswell

Jim Warren

Adrian <toomany2cvs@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:Xns9909E9E912294adrianachapmanfreeis@204.153. 245.131...
> The wit in front of us slowed down from 29mph on spotting a camera in
a
> 30 limit - to 22mph. And stayed there for about 500m after it - whereupon
> she slowed down for the roundabout 500m later...

My observation is that anybody who dawdles into a main road from a side
turning causing you to brake will turn off the main road again in less than
a mile.

Jim

Darby OGill

Are all the respondees to this post selfish teen dweebs, or perpetually
offended types? If people are lucky, they'll live to a mature age, and maybe
want to go out and get a quart of milk too. (without some AH in a riced,
pimped egomobile pushing them)

Brian Nystrom

Judging by the list of newsgroups this crap was spammed to and the fake
return address, it appears that the real point of this post is to ****
off as many people as possible. This is TROLL, nothing more.

As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to
"knock us off".

Darby OGill

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:a5qRh.9046$hI4.8448@trndny08...
> Judging by the list of newsgroups this crap was spammed to and the fake
> return address, it appears that the real point of this post is to **** off
> as many people as possible. This is TROLL, nothing more.
>
> As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
> share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to "knock
> us off".

As a motorcyclist, I know where you're coming from.
Everyone seems to think courtesy is for the other person.
Patience is a virtue.

PS-I seen some sanctimonious cyclist too. I'm sure not you!(or me)!

Dave Smith

Brian Nystrom wrote:
>
> Judging by the list of newsgroups this crap was spammed to and the fake
> return address, it appears that the real point of this post is to ****
> off as many people as possible. This is TROLL, nothing more.
>
> As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
> share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to
> "knock us off".


As a rule, old people are no worse than any other group of drivers when it
comes to lack of respect for cyclists, though I have to admit that the one
time I was hit by a car while biking it was an old lady. It doesn't help to
stay to one side and give them lots of room, because some will still crowd
you. Better to move out into the road more and they are more likely to be
more aware of your presence. It also leaves room for you to move over if
you have too.


Old drivers are bad. I worked for a brief period as a driver examiner at a
time when anyone 80 or over and those 70 or over who had had an accident
had to take an annual road test. We used to reserve Wednesday morning for
senior tests and I quickly learned to dread Wednesday mornings. Sixty years
of driving does not guarantee 60 years of improvement. It is more often 60
years worth of learning bad habits. It's a good think most of them don't
drive much because their accident per mile driven rate is far worse than
younger drivers. It is even worse than new drivers.

Huge

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:a5qRh.9046$hI4.8448@trndny08...
> As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
> share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to "knock
> us off".

When you pay, then you'll have a say.

Edwin Pawlowski

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:a5qRh.9046$hI4.8448@trndny08...
> Judging by the list of newsgroups this crap was spammed to and the fake
> return address, it appears that the real point of this post is to **** off
> as many people as possible. This is TROLL, nothing more.

Cross Posting removed
Sure, but was designed to PO a lot of people, but just scanning over it,
there was some element of truth. At some point the elderly should be
re-tested. I've seen first hand a few that should not be on the road. They
are a danger to themselves and others.

_

On Fri, 6 Apr 2007 23:42:30 +0100, Huge wrote:

> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:a5qRh.9046$hI4.8448@trndny08...
>> As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
>> share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to "knock
>> us off".
>
> When you pay, then you'll have a say.

And if an owner (& vehicle excise duty payer) of a motorcar decides to ride
a cycle, your attitude would be...

Darby OGill

"
> Sure, but was designed to PO a lot of people, but just scanning over it,
> there was some element of truth. At some point the elderly should be
> re-tested. I've seen first hand a few that should not be on the road.
> They are a danger to themselves and others.

Ed, of course you're right. Yet I think people need to allow for some
behaviors that aren't their cup of tea. Going 25 in a 30 zone is not a
crime....people rush too much in their vehicles, putting people at risk imo.

Now a lead foot od-timer would really be a danger!
>
>

Edwin Pawlowski

"Darby OGill" <bark@woof.net> wrote in message
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>
> Ed, of course you're right. Yet I think people need to allow for some
> behaviors that aren't their cup of tea. Going 25 in a 30 zone is not a
> crime....people rush too much in their vehicles, putting people at risk
> imo.
>
> Now a lead foot od-timer would really be a danger!

Not so bad on a city street, but they sometimes do it on the highway. The
problem is if the driver cannot react fast enough, even at 25, if a child
runs out in the street. At a nearby medical center I've seen oldsters that
could barely walk get into a car and drive off. Going slow is not a
problem, not being able to stop certainly is. One old guy, at least 85, had
to have the nurse walk him out holding his arm, had to help him get a coat
on, and then he got into a car. Scary to see it happen.

As I get older myself, I have mixed thoughts. One day I want to be able to
get to the store. Will I be safe?

Brian Nystrom

Darby OGill wrote:
> "Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:a5qRh.9046$hI4.8448@trndny08...
>> Judging by the list of newsgroups this crap was spammed to and the fake
>> return address, it appears that the real point of this post is to **** off
>> as many people as possible. This is TROLL, nothing more.
>>
>> As a cyclist, this is aggravating as it's hard enough to get drivers to
>> share the road without some moron like this guy encouraging them to "knock
>> us off".
>
> As a motorcyclist, I know where you're coming from.
> Everyone seems to think courtesy is for the other person.
> Patience is a virtue.
>
> PS-I seen some sanctimonious cyclist too. I'm sure not you!(or me)!

Sure. No road user group is completely without blame. Jerks are jerks,
regardless of what they're driving or riding and you're always going to
encounter them.

What most motorists don't realize is that in most states, bicycles are
considered to vehicles, just as cars, trucks and motorcycles are. As
such, we DO have the right to use a lane if need be. From a practical
standpoint, we typically try to stay out of the way and use shoulders
where they're available and in adequate condition, so we don't impede
faster traffic. Staying "as far to the right as practicable" is often
also required by law.

Although I do most of my riding solo, when I do ride with groups, we
ride single-file unless the shoulder is wide enough to permit us to
double up without intruding into the travel lane.

What amazes me is the amount of harassment I get from people driving a
5' wide car in a 10' wide lane that don't think they have enough room if
I'm riding near the white line on the edge of the road. This past
summer, I even had some brain-dead "bimbette" driving a Jeep that her
mommy and daddy must have bought her try to tell me that I should be
riding on the sidewalk (which is illegal here). At the time I was on a
road with 2, 10' wide travel lanes and a 6' wide shoulder. Apparently,
that wasn't enough room for her.