Dave in Lake Villa

I know it says 100,000 miles in the owners manual, but, id like to hear
what HyundaiTech in this NewsGroup says about this ; would 50,000 miles
make more sense if money were no issue ??

Thanks.

hyundaitech

I was under the impression it said 60k in the owner's manual. I'd
recommend whatever the manual says. I have not experience to suggest
otherwise.

Rick Lavigne

HI there....
Want a really good story? We didn't have to change plugs on our '01 SF
until 225,000 km. It was only then that we noticed any degradation in
performance that required it to be done.

Old_Timer

On Tue, 5 Jul 2005 20:12:38 -0400, "Rick Lavigne" <rickwl@hotmail.com>
wrote:

>HI there....
> Want a really good story? We didn't have to change plugs on our '01 SF
>until 225,000 km. It was only then that we noticed any degradation in
>performance that required it to be done.
>

Did you experience any difficulty in getting them out after that many
kms?

Old_Timer

Rick Lavigne

Aside from acrobatics and getting the top manifold off to get at the rear
ones, not really...LOL.

Was amazed at the wear though. Got to hand it to 'em, the engine
designers did a pretty good job in my opinion as far as reliability.

Dave in Lake Villa

'HI there....
Want a really good story? We didn't have to
change plugs on our '01 SF until 225,000 km. It was only then that we
noticed any degradation in performance that required it to be done.'

REPLY: I cant relate to km...but it sounds like alot more than 100,000
miles. How come you didnt change plugs at the recommended interval ?
If you wait until youre having bad performance, just think of the
possible engine damage you could be causing from not spending a measily
amount on spark plugs . What is your rationale behind running your
engine into the ground ..just curious. Thanks.

Rick Lavigne

It wasn't a case of running it into the ground. There was no degradation of
performance up to that point. One of the reasons I didn't change them at the
recommended interval was just that.

I had my regular mechanic do the work by the way, since I can't trust the
dealership's service department since they ripped me off to the tune of
2600.00 2 years ago for their own mistake.

Jody

my god what mistake was worth 2600.00??
"Rick Lavigne" <rickwl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:lB7ze.5814$is5.672279@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> It wasn't a case of running it into the ground. There was no degradation
> of performance up to that point. One of the reasons I didn't change them
> at the recommended interval was just that.
>
> I had my regular mechanic do the work by the way, since I can't trust the
> dealership's service department since they ripped me off to the tune of
> 2600.00 2 years ago for their own mistake.
>

Dan K

"Rick Lavigne" <rickwl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:PlFye.4287$is5.413198@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> HI there....
> Want a really good story? We didn't have to change plugs on our '01
SF
> until 225,000 km. It was only then that we noticed any degradation in
> performance that required it to be done.
>
>
I just did my 2002 XG-350's at 60,000 miles (96,000 km) and they looked
almost new. Gap still in spec, only slight discoloration. At $13.75 each
from a Hyundai parts dealer, I might try and go longer for the next
interval. One of the big problems I fear is not being able to get them out
if you leave them in too long. Remember the above 225,000 km (140,000
miles) was on an '01 SF so they couldn't of been in there more that 4-5
years. Now that I have anti-seeze compound on the new set, I'll probably
try and get 100,000 miles / 5 years out of these. Same with the timing belt
I would guess...you have to consider not only the miles, but also the years.

Dan

Rick Lavigne

OK....the 2600.00 story.

Went out to my Big Brown truck one summer day. Noticed a puddle under the
rear differential, not a big one...just enough to set off the service alarm
bells in my head.
Went to the dealership, the truck still under warrantee and all at the
time. They examined it and determined that one of the seals on the unit had
failed. Now, the first thing that should have worried me is that they had
come right out and told me " we've never replaced those on the Santa Fe as
yet". I figured ok, do you know how to do it? They kindly answered " Of
course, we have been trained to do it but have never had to do it on a SF so
soon"
Now you have to be told this one thing about my SF. It does alot of
mileage. Probably the highest mileage any Santa Fe has in the province
because we commuted 500 km per week on a minimum. So the truck was up there,
but still under factory protection at the time
They had the truck for 3 days! It took them that long to get the parts
and remember what to do with them. They replaced the faulty seal supposedly
and gave me back the SF. I checked for 3 days and there wasn't any leaks so
I figured ok it was fixed and they have something they can tell HQ that they
knew how to do this.
Three months later the truck needed an oil change. No big thing and I
usually took it to the dealership to get that done. I liked the service
there and even learning on my truck at the time had not deterred that
feeling. Except that they had no openings to do the service. I figured gee,
I really need to get this oil change done with the driving I do. So I take
it to a local place to get it done.
The change went as advertised, all done no remarks about any problems
found on thier inspection. The time of year we were driving at this time
didn't give me the chance to see any new "spots" so I was going about things
as usual on a trip down to the city in the morning with the wife, in the
dark of morning.
She mentions that there seems to be a sound that she has never heard
before. It was coming from the rear and I listened and it almost sounded
like a tire rubbing. I slow down a bit and it seems to get a bit louder.
There was a service station not far down the highway and all of a sudden I
hear this bang as if I had run over some debris and the sound turned into a
low groan. Figuring a blown tire or something I nurse the truck into the
parking lot.
Checked all the tires, all were up. The sound didn't occur in idle so it
wasn't likely an exhaust failure. There was not exterior damage to the truck
so it wasn't wind. Get back into the truck and we agreed that it had to go
the dealership even though we were now over the warrantee period by about
6k.
Dealership phones me late that afternoon. Seems that in thier opinion
the place that did the oil change failed to replace the differential fill
plug properly and had "stripped the connection to the point the plug
wouldn't tighten" thus causing all the fluid to spray out under pressure and
frying all the gears.
Problem 1 with this story of theirs - the oil change was 2k ago.
Problem 2 with the story - no reported problems at the oil change place.
The third problem - I demanded the parts from the dealership.

You see, I was able to tighten the plug with no effort at all. So, I
said the Service Manager - this was caused by your boys not doin the job
right. He of course refuses to take blame. I mention that it was apparent to
me that you guys were learning on my truck. Oh no sir....we knew how to fix
it.

After a week of futzing around they finally put a new Differential into
it and it cost me 2600.00. I still have the part. It still seals fine.
Hyundai Canada refuses to own up to the foul up and my truck has never seen
the inside of a dealership repair shop since.

Jody

wholly f**&! id be very displeased with that kind of treatment by hmc
canada, it seems that some dealers get pissy when youve taken your vehicle
to someone else for serviceing becuase your far away or they cannot fit you
in at a conveinient time for you.....
one thing that irks me about our dealer in thunder bay on, when ever we went
in for maitenance and something was discovered that needed warranty
attention, they NEVER seem to have parts instock.
Not even a exhaust pipe when that needed replacement.
dont the dealerships stock parts besides maitenance stuff?
worse of its like pulling teeth to get a loaner....
good luck with santa..
"Rick Lavigne" <rickwl@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:e_jze.7113$is5.773995@news20.bellglobal.com.. .
> OK....the 2600.00 story.
>
> Went out to my Big Brown truck one summer day. Noticed a puddle under the
> rear differential, not a big one...just enough to set off the service
> alarm bells in my head.
> Went to the dealership, the truck still under warrantee and all at the
> time. They examined it and determined that one of the seals on the unit
> had failed. Now, the first thing that should have worried me is that they
> had come right out and told me " we've never replaced those on the Santa
> Fe as yet". I figured ok, do you know how to do it? They kindly answered "
> Of course, we have been trained to do it but have never had to do it on a
> SF so soon"
> Now you have to be told this one thing about my SF. It does alot of
> mileage. Probably the highest mileage any Santa Fe has in the province
> because we commuted 500 km per week on a minimum. So the truck was up
> there, but still under factory protection at the time
> They had the truck for 3 days! It took them that long to get the parts
> and remember what to do with them. They replaced the faulty seal
> supposedly and gave me back the SF. I checked for 3 days and there wasn't
> any leaks so I figured ok it was fixed and they have something they can
> tell HQ that they knew how to do this.
> Three months later the truck needed an oil change. No big thing and I
> usually took it to the dealership to get that done. I liked the service
> there and even learning on my truck at the time had not deterred that
> feeling. Except that they had no openings to do the service. I figured
> gee, I really need to get this oil change done with the driving I do. So I
> take it to a local place to get it done.
> The change went as advertised, all done no remarks about any problems
> found on thier inspection. The time of year we were driving at this time
> didn't give me the chance to see any new "spots" so I was going about
> things as usual on a trip down to the city in the morning with the wife,
> in the dark of morning.
> She mentions that there seems to be a sound that she has never heard
> before. It was coming from the rear and I listened and it almost sounded
> like a tire rubbing. I slow down a bit and it seems to get a bit louder.
> There was a service station not far down the highway and all of a sudden I
> hear this bang as if I had run over some debris and the sound turned into
> a low groan. Figuring a blown tire or something I nurse the truck into the
> parking lot.
> Checked all the tires, all were up. The sound didn't occur in idle so
> it wasn't likely an exhaust failure. There was not exterior damage to the
> truck so it wasn't wind. Get back into the truck and we agreed that it had
> to go the dealership even though we were now over the warrantee period by
> about 6k.
> Dealership phones me late that afternoon. Seems that in thier opinion
> the place that did the oil change failed to replace the differential fill
> plug properly and had "stripped the connection to the point the plug
> wouldn't tighten" thus causing all the fluid to spray out under pressure
> and frying all the gears.
> Problem 1 with this story of theirs - the oil change was 2k ago.
> Problem 2 with the story - no reported problems at the oil change
> place.
> The third problem - I demanded the parts from the dealership.
>
> You see, I was able to tighten the plug with no effort at all. So, I
> said the Service Manager - this was caused by your boys not doin the job
> right. He of course refuses to take blame. I mention that it was apparent
> to me that you guys were learning on my truck. Oh no sir....we knew how to
> fix it.
>
> After a week of futzing around they finally put a new Differential into
> it and it cost me 2600.00. I still have the part. It still seals fine.
> Hyundai Canada refuses to own up to the foul up and my truck has never
> seen the inside of a dealership repair shop since.
>