Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:4gqFf.20865$vp6.14929@bignews6.bellsouth.net. ..
>
>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET. ..
>>
>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>>on
>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>
>>>--
>>>
>>>-Mike-
>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>
>>
>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>
> 2006
>
>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do
>
> it
>
>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>
> little
>
>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>
>
> http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>
>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>
>>
>
>
> Man. That's a pain. I currently own my first Hyundai ('04 Sonata) and I
> like the car - should say my wife likes *her* car. I know this only applies
> to the'06, but it seems there's an increasing number of not-so-routine
> things being required by Hyundai to maintain the warranty. Some things I
> can understand, like the timing belt, although a chain would have made that
> a moot point. At some point though, the maintenance being mandated by
> Hyundai in order to keep the car under warranty coverage is going to hit the
> point that it's more expensive to keep the warranty up than to repair any
> other car.
>
> O2 sensors should never be a warranty requirement. They don't fail at
> alarming rates in cars today and Hyundai should be able to put sensors in
> that are as reliable as any other manufacturer. In all of my years of
> driving cars that are equipped with O2 sensors, I have only had to replace
> one, and that was back in the early years.
>

I agree. I keep my maintence records in Excel and when I added in all
of the Hyundai required items, the list was nearly twice as long as my
Chevy truck and Dodge minivan. This 100,000 mile warranty may be a lot
more costly than meets the eye.

Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>on
>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>
> Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the 2006
> Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do it
> yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that little
> gem today on the Hyundai website.
> http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
> It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
> don't know if they can actually enforce it.

Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.

Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>on
>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>
> Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the 2006
> Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do it
> yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that little
> gem today on the Hyundai website.
> http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
> It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
> don't know if they can actually enforce it.

Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.

Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
> news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET...
>
>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>on
>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>
>>--
>>
>>-Mike-
>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>
>
> Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the 2006
> Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do it
> yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that little
> gem today on the Hyundai website.
> http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
> It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
> don't know if they can actually enforce it.

Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.

Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Bob wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>>>on
>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>-Mike-
>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>
>>>
>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>2006
>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do
>>>it
>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>little
>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>
>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>
>>Matt
>
> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That makes
> it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>
> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace all
> the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error where it
> really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM would figure
> out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.

Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so,
I think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my
manual, which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the
O2 sensors.


Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Bob wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>>>on
>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>-Mike-
>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>
>>>
>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>2006
>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do
>>>it
>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>little
>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>
>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>
>>Matt
>
> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That makes
> it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>
> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace all
> the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error where it
> really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM would figure
> out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.

Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so,
I think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my
manual, which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the
O2 sensors.


Matt

 

Bob wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>
>>Bob wrote:
>>
>>
>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET.. .
>>>
>>>
>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced based
>>>>on
>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>
>>>>--
>>>>
>>>>-Mike-
>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>
>>>
>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>2006
>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you do
>>>it
>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>little
>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>
>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>
>>Matt
>
> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That makes
> it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>
> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace all
> the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error where it
> really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM would figure
> out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.

Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so,
I think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my
manual, which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the
O2 sensors.


Matt

 

This beckons a question - is it possible that there IS the same requirement
on, say '04's or '05's? For that matter, is this a requirement for other
models like the Elantra, or the XG350/Azera (which also happen to have the
100,000 mile warranty).

With me owning one Hyundai and one Kia (which also makes a big too-doo of
its 100,000 mile warranty), I am understandably curious.

Tom Wenndt


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:7JzFf.5924$lb.520857@news1.epix.net...
> Bob wrote:
>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced
>>>>>based
>>>>>on
>>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>-Mike-
>>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>>2006
>>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you
>>>>do it
>>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>>little
>>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>>
>>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That
>> makes it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>>
>> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace
>> all the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error
>> where it really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM
>> would figure out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.
>
> Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so, I
> think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my manual,
> which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the O2
> sensors.
>
>
> Matt

 

This beckons a question - is it possible that there IS the same requirement
on, say '04's or '05's? For that matter, is this a requirement for other
models like the Elantra, or the XG350/Azera (which also happen to have the
100,000 mile warranty).

With me owning one Hyundai and one Kia (which also makes a big too-doo of
its 100,000 mile warranty), I am understandably curious.

Tom Wenndt


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:7JzFf.5924$lb.520857@news1.epix.net...
> Bob wrote:
>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced
>>>>>based
>>>>>on
>>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>-Mike-
>>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>>2006
>>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you
>>>>do it
>>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>>little
>>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>>
>>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That
>> makes it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>>
>> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace
>> all the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error
>> where it really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM
>> would figure out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.
>
> Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so, I
> think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my manual,
> which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the O2
> sensors.
>
>
> Matt

 

This beckons a question - is it possible that there IS the same requirement
on, say '04's or '05's? For that matter, is this a requirement for other
models like the Elantra, or the XG350/Azera (which also happen to have the
100,000 mile warranty).

With me owning one Hyundai and one Kia (which also makes a big too-doo of
its 100,000 mile warranty), I am understandably curious.

Tom Wenndt


"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:7JzFf.5924$lb.520857@news1.epix.net...
> Bob wrote:
>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:1asFf.5902$lb.519256@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>>Bob wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
>>>>news:b9a0b$43e1ffe4$452896b0$14270@ALLTEL.NET. ..
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Are you getting an Check Engine light? O2 sensors aren't replaced
>>>>>based
>>>>>on
>>>>>time or mileage, only when they fail.
>>>>>
>>>>>--
>>>>>
>>>>>-Mike-
>>>>>mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>Unbelievably, they - three of them - are required to be replaced on the
>>>>2006
>>>>Sonata at 45,000 mile intervals to the tune of $321 + labor unless you
>>>>do it
>>>>yourself. It is an emissions warranty requirement. I just found that
>>>>little
>>>>gem today on the Hyundai website.
>>>>http://www.hyundaiusa.com/owners/myh...cerecords.aspx
>>>>It's not in the required maintenance section of the owners manual, so I
>>>>don't know if they can actually enforce it.
>>>
>>>Do all Sonata's have three or just the V-6? I have the 4 cylinder.
>>>Where do you see them having three? I didn't see the number mentioned.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>
>> Well, I errored. The 3.3 has 4 oxygen sensors. The 2.4 has two. That
>> makes it $428 every 45,000 miles. Here's some pictures.
>>
>> Maybe Hyundaitech can chime in on this one. Do you guys really replace
>> all the oxygen sensors at 45,000 mile intervals, or is this an error
>> where it really should be test/check/inspect? I would think that the PCM
>> would figure out pretty quickly if an O2 sensor was bad.
>
> Well, yet another area that the 4 cylinder is less expensive. Even so, I
> think this is a crazy requirement and I'm planning to follow my manual,
> which I don't believe called for pre-emptive replacement of the O2
> sensors.
>
>
> Matt