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sassycat 06-25-2006 06:20 AM

Rusted Axil Bolts
 
I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
car off.

Mike Marlow 06-25-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway

and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and

the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main

frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?


No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I

am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted

totally
> through.


Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car

after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I

tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 06-25-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway

and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and

the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main

frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?


No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I

am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted

totally
> through.


Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car

after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I

tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 06-25-2006 07:01 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway

and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and

the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main

frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?


No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I

am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted

totally
> through.


Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car

after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I

tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Matt Whiting 06-25-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Matt Whiting 06-25-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Matt Whiting 06-25-2006 08:34 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.


Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Brian Nystrom 06-25-2006 09:00 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Sounds like a fluke to me.

Brian Nystrom 06-25-2006 09:00 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Sounds like a fluke to me.

Brian Nystrom 06-25-2006 09:00 AM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Sounds like a fluke to me.

Eric G. 06-25-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.

>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>


Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric


Eric G. 06-25-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.

>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>


Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric


Eric G. 06-25-2006 12:13 PM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.

>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>


Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric


Matt Whiting 06-25-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>sassycat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.

>>
>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>
>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>so far.
>>
>>Matt
>>

>
>
> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?


Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.


Matt

Matt Whiting 06-25-2006 02:06 PM

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 
Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>sassycat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.

>>
>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>
>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>so far.
>>
>>Matt
>>

>
>
> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?


Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.


Matt


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