Rusted Axil Bolts
 

I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
car off.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway
and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and
the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main
frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?

No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I
am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
totally
> through.

Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car
after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I
tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway
and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and
the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main
frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?

No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I
am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
totally
> through.

Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car
after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I
tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

"sassycat" <u23418@uwe> wrote in message news:624bb3bc27f0d@uwe...

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway
and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and
the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main
frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas?

No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
typical, it would be big news.

> The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I
am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
totally
> through.

Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes very
rare things happen.

> In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car
after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I
tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you couldn't
move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road like this would
quite likely result in some sort of damage to linkages, etc.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
> body of my car went right. The body fell off the frame due to the main frame
> axil bolts and part of the a-frame rusting completely through. I had no
> control of the car. Is this typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service
> said I was lucky I wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me
> serious injury. I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am
> home. This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted totally
> through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined my transmission.
> Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was unable to move my car after
> this happened it was still in gear which of course didn't work. When I tried
> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
> car off.

Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
for cars driven in winter weather)?

I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
so far.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Sounds like a fluke to me.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Sounds like a fluke to me.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Sounds like a fluke to me.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>

Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>

Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>> highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>> went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>> frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>> rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>> typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>> wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>> I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>> This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>> the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>> totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>> my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>> unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>> of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>> there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>
> Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
> salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
> good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
> I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
> so far.
>
> Matt
>

Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
doesn't it?

Eric

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>sassycat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>
>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>
>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>so far.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?

Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.


Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>sassycat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>
>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>
>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>so far.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?

Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.


Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Eric G. wrote:

> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>
>
>>sassycat wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>
>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>
>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>so far.
>>
>>Matt
>>
>
>
> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
> doesn't it?

Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.

It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
a nice solution to rust the car.


Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota

What's a Sanota?

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota

What's a Sanota?

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat wrote:

> I was driving my 1999 Sanota

What's a Sanota?

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
> typical, it would be big news.
>
> Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes
> very rare things happen.
>
> No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you
> couldn't move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road
> like this would quite likely result in some sort of damage to
> linkages, etc.

I had something similar happen to a 1979 Fiat Strada when it was 3
years old. You don't see very many Strada's on the road these days...

--

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
> typical, it would be big news.
>
> Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes
> very rare things happen.
>
> No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you
> couldn't move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road
> like this would quite likely result in some sort of damage to
> linkages, etc.

I had something similar happen to a 1979 Fiat Strada when it was 3
years old. You don't see very many Strada's on the road these days...

--

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Mike Marlow wrote:

> No - this is the first I've ever heard of such an event. If it were
> typical, it would be big news.
>
> Of course it's dangerous. Why did it happen? Who knows. Sometimes
> very rare things happen.
>
> No gears? Not sure what you mean by this. If you mean that you
> couldn't move the shift lever, I'm not surprised. A drop to the road
> like this would quite likely result in some sort of damage to
> linkages, etc.

I had something similar happen to a 1979 Fiat Strada when it was 3
years old. You don't see very many Strada's on the road these days...

--

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:06:09 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:

>Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>sassycat wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>>
>>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>>
>>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>>so far.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
>> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
>> doesn't it?
>
>Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
>in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.
>
>It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
>cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
>a nice solution to rust the car.
>
>
>Matt

Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine. I expect a really
heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt. Brine is
the problem.

;-)

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:06:09 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:

>Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>sassycat wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>>
>>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>>
>>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>>so far.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
>> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
>> doesn't it?
>
>Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
>in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.
>
>It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
>cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
>a nice solution to rust the car.
>
>
>Matt

Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine. I expect a really
heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt. Brine is
the problem.

;-)

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

On Sun, 25 Jun 2006 18:06:09 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:

>Eric G. wrote:
>
>> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
>> news:ipvng.2$Pa.353@news1.epix.net:
>>
>>
>>>sassycat wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the
>>>>highway and lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car
>>>>went left and the body of my car went right. The body fell off the
>>>>frame due to the main frame axil bolts and part of the a-frame
>>>>rusting completely through. I had no control of the car. Is this
>>>>typical in Hyundai Sanotas? The wrecker service said I was lucky I
>>>>wasn't still on the highway, it could have caused me serious injury.
>>>>I keep my car in the garage, it never sits outside when I am home.
>>>>This seems like a very dangerous hazard and I cannot understand why
>>>>the a-frame and bolts would have gotten to the state of being rusted
>>>>totally through. In the process, of this happening, it also ruined
>>>>my transmission. Has this happened to anyone else? Although I was
>>>>unable to move my car after this happened it was still in gear which
>>>>of course didn't work. When I tried to put the gear shift in park,
>>>>there were no gears, I just had to turn the car off.
>>>
>>>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>>>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't
>>>good for cars driven in winter weather)?
>>>
>>>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>>>so far.
>>>
>>>Matt
>>>
>>
>>
>> Not arguing the point, but why would a heated garage be bad in the
>> Winter? Heating lowers the relative humidity and helps the car dry out,
>> doesn't it?
>
>Ice doesn't rust metal nearly as fast as water and salt that is encased
>in ice rusts at a slower rate than salt water.
>
>It is better to leave a snow and ice and salt covered car out in the
>cold than the bring it in and warm up the ice and snow and salt and form
>a nice solution to rust the car.
>
>
>Matt

Ditto - almost - I know that in upstate NY out attached garage is just
warm enough to melt the snow down to a nice brine. I expect a really
heated garage would then evaporate the brine down to salt. Brine is
the problem.

;-)

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Screwtape III wrote:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>
>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota
>
>
> What's a Sanota?
>

And what is an Axil bolt?

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Screwtape III wrote:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>
>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota
>
>
> What's a Sanota?
>

And what is an Axil bolt?

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Screwtape III wrote:

> sassycat wrote:
>
>
>>I was driving my 1999 Sanota
>
>
> What's a Sanota?
>

And what is an Axil bolt?

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt,

I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

Mitzi

Matt Whiting wrote:
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
>> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
>> car off.
>
>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
>for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>so far.
>
>Matt

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt,

I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

Mitzi

Matt Whiting wrote:
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
>> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
>> car off.
>
>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
>for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>so far.
>
>Matt

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Matt,

I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

Mitzi

Matt Whiting wrote:
>> I was driving my 1999 Sanota and was making a right turn off the highway and
>> lost control of my steering power. The a-frame of my car went left and the
>[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>> to put the gear shift in park, there were no gears, I just had to turn the
>> car off.
>
>Where do you live? Near the coast? In an area that applies lots of
>salt to the roads in the winter? Is your garage heated (this isn't good
>for cars driven in winter weather)?
>
>I'm guessing there is a lot more to this story than you are telling us
>so far.
>
>Matt

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Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Most likely, the axle pulled out of the transmission or the inner cv joint
pulled apart.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Most likely, the axle pulled out of the transmission or the inner cv joint
pulled apart.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Most likely, the axle pulled out of the transmission or the inner cv joint
pulled apart.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat via CarKB.com wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
> roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
> be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
> mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
> indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
> car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
> on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
> the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
> there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
> didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

I meant things like how many miles are on the car. I've seen 99 cars
with 300,000 miles with 200,000 of those on salty NY or PA roads. If
you wash your car often in the winter with salt on the roads, this is
NOT good for it. Adding water to the salt is a recipe for rust.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat via CarKB.com wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
> roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
> be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
> mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
> indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
> car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
> on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
> the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
> there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
> didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

I meant things like how many miles are on the car. I've seen 99 cars
with 300,000 miles with 200,000 of those on salty NY or PA roads. If
you wash your car often in the winter with salt on the roads, this is
NOT good for it. Adding water to the salt is a recipe for rust.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

sassycat via CarKB.com wrote:
> Matt,
>
> I live in Indiana and yes they do at times have to apply lots of salt to the
> roads but as well I wash my car often. My garage is not heated but it would
> be warmer than sitting outside in the elements. I'm not quite sure what you
> mean by more to this story than I am telling you. I had not had any
> indication previous to this happening that there was something wrong with my
> car. It was only minutes before it happened that I felt a pull to the right
> on my steering wheel that something was not right. My first thought was that
> the allignment was off but it was also pouring down rain at the time and
> there was ponding on the highway. I'm not sure what else I can tell you, I
> didn't realize there was a problem until it happened.

I meant things like how many miles are on the car. I've seen 99 cars
with 300,000 miles with 200,000 of those on salty NY or PA roads. If
you wash your car often in the winter with salt on the roads, this is
NOT good for it. Adding water to the salt is a recipe for rust.

Matt

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Axil bolts come on Sanotas, sometime they rust.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Axil bolts come on Sanotas, sometime they rust.

Re: Rusted Axil Bolts
 

Axil bolts come on Sanotas, sometime they rust.