Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
My dealer said that this oil filter has some sensor in it, to my wife.
Sounds like BS. Is this true....has technolgy change so much there is a sensor in a oil filter? And He said if you use a non Hyundai filter...you void the warranty. From what I read in the warranty docs...this is only true if is is directly related to some failure. |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
There is so much bunk in this that I almost fell out of my chair.
There is no sensor. And using non-Hyundai anything does not automatically void your warranty. You do have to use parts that meet the recommended specs... but there are lots of choices out there. Kevin "star raider" <noreply.@noreply.com> wrote in message news:_zySc.94839$V96.41894@cyclops.nntpserver.com. .. > My dealer said that this oil filter has some sensor in it, to my wife. > Sounds like BS. > > Is this true....has technolgy change so much there is a sensor in a oil > filter? > > And He said if you use a non Hyundai filter...you void the warranty. From > what I read in the warranty docs...this is only true if is is directly > related to some failure. > > > > |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:13:27 -0400, "star raider"
<noreply.@noreply.com> wrote: >My dealer said that this oil filter has some sensor in it, to my wife. >Sounds like BS. > >Is this true....has technolgy change so much there is a sensor in a oil >filter? > >And He said if you use a non Hyundai filter...you void the warranty. From >what I read in the warranty docs...this is only true if is is directly >related to some failure. > > Not sure about Hyundai, but a few manufacturers are putting sensors in to tell you when to replace the oil, but it has nothing to do with the oil filter. Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent (i.e. Purolator, etc). Except from Act: While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided. Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: “(c) No warrantor of a consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such product on the consumer’s using, in connection with such product, any article or service (other than article or service provided without charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this subsection may be waived by the Commission if – ((1)the warrantor satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function properly only if the article or service so identified is used in connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds that such a waiver is in the public interest.” ((42 U.S.C.2302(C)) - -- Curtis Newton cnewton.remove-this@akaMail.com http://surf.to/cnewton ICQ: 4899169 Anti-Spam filter in place-- <delete remove-this. to respond to email> |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
Your dealer is either a moron or a jerk! Read Curtis Newton's reply
again. That's the straight scoop. As for aftermarket filters, Purolator's Pure One is generally considered among the best, if not THE best. The standard filter is p/n 14459. You can also use p/n 24458, which is the same except for being ~30% longer, which provides more surface area and better flow. star raider wrote: > My dealer said that this oil filter has some sensor in it, to my wife. > Sounds like BS. > > Is this true....has technolgy change so much there is a sensor in a oil > filter? > > And He said if you use a non Hyundai filter...you void the warranty. From > what I read in the warranty docs...this is only true if is is directly > related to some failure. > > > > |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
Heres more info, I called the service manager and challenged is statement on
the sensor......so he back pedaled his statement. Now he says my wife mis-understood.....good cop out....(My wife is no dumb blonde......and can service a car, she caught him in the lie) The filter has a check valve, this makes sense now...but he did say sensor. The check value prevents the engine from draining back through the filter...pulling oil down from the head units. ......Now this makes some sense. He did add, Only the Hyundai and Wik brand filters have the check value. He clearly said Fram does not. I don't have feedback about Purculator or others. "Curtis Newton" <cnewton.remove-this@akamail.com> wrote in message news:pmglh09s6gdr1pde61asu12eqot0dfi0mg@4ax.com... > On Wed, 11 Aug 2004 20:13:27 -0400, "star raider" > <noreply.@noreply.com> wrote: > > >My dealer said that this oil filter has some sensor in it, to my wife. > >Sounds like BS. > > > >Is this true....has technolgy change so much there is a sensor in a oil > >filter? > > > >And He said if you use a non Hyundai filter...you void the warranty. From > >what I read in the warranty docs...this is only true if is is directly > >related to some failure. > > > > > > > Not sure about Hyundai, but a few manufacturers are putting sensors in > to tell you when to replace the oil, but it has nothing to do with the > oil filter. > > Next time they quote you must use a Hyundai oil filter, tell them > according to the Magnuson-Moss Act, if the use of a non-Hyundai part > voids the warranty, the dealer is required to give the part to you to > maintain the warrany. I am sure they will say it isn't required, but > encouraged......IOW, you can use any part that is an OEM equivalent > (i.e. Purolator, etc). > > Except from Act: > While the Magnuson-Moss Act does not require manufacturers to provide > a written warranty, it provides specific rules when one is provided. > Among those provisions, FTC regulations state: "(c) No warrantor of a > consumer product may condition his written or implied warranty of such > product on the consumer's using, in connection with such product, any > article or service (other than article or service provided without > charge under the terms of the warranty) which is identified by brand, > trade, or corporate name; except that the prohibition of this > subsection may be waived by the Commission if - ((1)the warrantor > satisfies the Commission that the warranted product will function > properly only if the article or service so identified is used in > connection with the warranted product, and (2) the Commission finds > that such a waiver is in the public interest." ((42 U.S.C.2302(C)) > - > -- > Curtis Newton > cnewton.remove-this@akaMail.com > http://surf.to/cnewton > ICQ: 4899169 > Anti-Spam filter in place-- > <delete remove-this. to respond to email> |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
On Thu, 12 Aug 2004 11:12:33 -0400, "star raider"
<noreply.@noreply.com> wrote: > <snip> >The filter has a check valve, this makes sense now...but he did say sensor. >The check value prevents the engine from draining back through the >filter...pulling oil down from the head units. ......Now this makes some sense. > >He did add, Only the Hyundai and Wik brand filters have the check value. >He clearly said Fram does not. I don't have feedback about Purculator or >others. ========================================= You can E-mail ( or telephone! ) the filter companies about particular part number and they will give you any (non-propietary) information. Also, parts supplier 'desk books' have filter specs. S25 ------------------------------------------------------------------- A short Google on the www and I found the following: ( Usual disclaimers. ) These Oil Filters have 20 x 1.5mm threads, 10-18 psi by-pass valves, anti-drain back valves. Purolator PL14459 Mobil-1 M1-104 AMSOil SMF 102 Baldwin B227 Fram PH6010A Hastings LF402 NAPA 1334 Purolator L14459 WIX 51334 ________________________________________ |
Re: Santa Fe 2004 3.5 Oil Filter
star raider wrote: > Heres more info, I called the service manager and challenged is statement on > the sensor......so he back pedaled his statement. Now he says my wife > mis-understood.....good cop out....(My wife is no dumb blonde......and can > service a car, she caught him in the lie) > > The filter has a check valve, this makes sense now...but he did say sensor. > The check value prevents the engine from draining back through the > filter...pulling oil down from the head units. ......Now this makes some > sense. > > He did add, Only the Hyundai and Wik brand filters have the check value. > He clearly said Fram does not. I don't have feedback about Purculator or > others. Either this truly knows nothing about cars or you just caught him in another lie. Go elsewhere, since you cannot trust this guy to give you a staight answer. Whether it's due to ignorance or malice, bad info is still bad info. Fram filters are junk, so stay away from them. Wix makes decent filters, but they're typically sold under other brand names. For some in-depth info on oil filters, read the following test: http://www.scuderiaciriani.com/rx7/oil_filter_study/ |
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