Darby OGill

"ghe" <hexx0045@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> The service was to comply with the maitenance requirements in the user's
> manual, 24 months or 30k whichever comes first. I only put 15k in 2
> years.
> Some guys here do drain and fill in stead of flush, do not know if this
> practice is good enough.
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Did you get a chance to see/smell the fluid?? I've known guys of dubious
character to wipe the dipstick with a dirty and rag and say "see, your fluid
looks like heck". (same guys would rattle an empty bottle of drygas in the
filler neck and say"you're all set mam, that'll be 4 bucks" ) Fox in charge
of hen house kind of scenario. I do understand wanting to keep your warranty
in good order, I just doubt the Actual Need for that frequency .

B.C. MALLAM

I got a qt. of transmission oil in case I needed to add some at my local
auto parts store and they gave me Valvoline Mercon V full synthetic. Is the
Hyundai transmission oil synthetic or a blend?


On 3/12/08 5:01 PM, in article QoYBj.5834$FG2.101@trndny08, "Darby OGill"
<darbyogill@net.net> wrote:

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> "ghe" <hexx0045@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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>> The service was to comply with the maitenance requirements in the user's
>> manual, 24 months or 30k whichever comes first. I only put 15k in 2
>> years.
>> Some guys here do drain and fill in stead of flush, do not know if this
>> practice is good enough.
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> Did you get a chance to see/smell the fluid?? I've known guys of dubious
> character to wipe the dipstick with a dirty and rag and say "see, your fluid
> looks like heck". (same guys would rattle an empty bottle of drygas in the
> filler neck and say"you're all set mam, that'll be 4 bucks" ) Fox in charge
> of hen house kind of scenario. I do understand wanting to keep your warranty
> in good order, I just doubt the Actual Need for that frequency .
>
>


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hyundaitech

I suspect it's synthetic, but there's nothing that indicates, so I don't
know. DO NOT use the Mercon V.

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Rev. Tom Wenndt

Agree. Anything that says Dexron or Mercon should be avoided.

Mr. HyundaiTech, you and I have gone around a time or two about the
compatibility of certain other fluids (like ATF+4). But those two fluids
are the ones that my dealership also EXPRESSLY says you must stay away from.

Speaking of tranny fluid, Castrol has come out with a new set of
"multi-vehicle transmission fluids." One of them is called "Import." It is
the first fluid I have seen which is expressly labeled, "Approved for use in
transmissions requiring Mitsubishi Diamond ATF SP, SPII, and SPIII." It
also lists other import trannys and fluids.

It is apparently also being sold now under some store names. Any thoughts
about this fluid, especially since the terms "Dexron" and "Mercon" are
nowhere to be found on this fluid (though ATF+4 is)?


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>I suspect it's synthetic, but there's nothing that indicates, so I don't
> know. DO NOT use the Mercon V.
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Mike

I've been using Amsoil's full synthetic for some time now. It's also
Hyundia SPIII approved. I'm much more satisfied with it than the OEM
fluid.

Edwin Pawlowski

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>
> I've been using Amsoil's full synthetic for some time now. It's also
> Hyundia SPIII approved. I'm much more satisfied with it than the OEM
> fluid.

What does it do that makes you more satisfied? How can you tell the
difference?

hyundaitech

Since I don't know the specs for all the different fluids, it's difficult
for me to make a good judgment. If it says it meets SPIII, I figure
there's something to that. We had some sort of multi-fluid at our
dealership that was supposed to meet just about every spec except SPII,
SPIII, and ATF+4, and we seemed to have no problems with it if used in the
appropriate vehicles. I believe there were some problems when it was
installed in ATF+4 vehicles. (Who'd have thought?)

Probably it'll be okay. If it were my car, I'd probably figure the
savings wasn't enough to risk it, though.

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nick@nowhere.com

On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:26:05 -0500, "ghe" <hexx0045@yahoo.com> wrote:

>Hi, Hyundai Tech,
>
>I have a 2006 Santa Fe. my local shop found that my transmission fluid is
>in dark brown color and had burn smell though there is only 15k miles,
>then they changed the transmission fluid 3 days ago, but they used ATF+4,
>they said it is compatible with SPIII.
>
>After search this forum, I am concerned about it, Some recommend to use
>OEM type fluid, while others said it is okay to use ATF+4 which is a more
>advanced product.
>
>In your opinion, is it okay? or should I have it re-flushed with SPIII?



My personal experience with our old 99 Elantra was that the fluid
turned brown within a few thousand miles of use. Most shops that don't
know any better will tell you that the fluid is bad even though it is
perfectly normal on Hyundai's. Each manufacture's formula is
different. On our Honda's even after 30k miles the fluid is usually
the same color as the new fluid I put in it (red).

Hopefully you charged your service instead of paying cash. Go back to
them and demand that they drain and fill the fluid with Hyundai OEM
fluid. If you get any pushback call your credit card company and
dispute the charge. Make sure you have information on hand and if you
can get any word from Hyundai to back up your claim the better.

Worse case, take it to your dealer and explain to them what the other
shop did. You'll probably need to do a drain and fill 3 times to
ensure you get most of the fluid out since a drain and fill only
drains a partial amount of fluid from the transmission.

Good Luck

Rev. Tom Wenndt

Agree that within a few thousand miles, the fluid in these Hyundais and Kias
does seem to turn brown.

I have not seen that with any other transmission fluid except for the
Diamond ATF SPIII.

I also agree that it does not necessarily mean there is a problem, but is
not the red coloring supposed to always keep it looking separate from engine
oil?

I just did a drain and refill on my son's '02 Elantra after puttting 31,000
miles on the current fluid. The old fluid looked a LOT like engine oil
coming out.



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> On Tue, 11 Mar 2008 09:26:05 -0500, "ghe" <hexx0045@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
>>Hi, Hyundai Tech,
>>
>>I have a 2006 Santa Fe. my local shop found that my transmission fluid is
>>in dark brown color and had burn smell though there is only 15k miles,
>>then they changed the transmission fluid 3 days ago, but they used ATF+4,
>>they said it is compatible with SPIII.
>>
>>After search this forum, I am concerned about it, Some recommend to use
>>OEM type fluid, while others said it is okay to use ATF+4 which is a more
>>advanced product.
>>
>>In your opinion, is it okay? or should I have it re-flushed with SPIII?
>
>
>
> My personal experience with our old 99 Elantra was that the fluid
> turned brown within a few thousand miles of use. Most shops that don't
> know any better will tell you that the fluid is bad even though it is
> perfectly normal on Hyundai's. Each manufacture's formula is
> different. On our Honda's even after 30k miles the fluid is usually
> the same color as the new fluid I put in it (red).
>
> Hopefully you charged your service instead of paying cash. Go back to
> them and demand that they drain and fill the fluid with Hyundai OEM
> fluid. If you get any pushback call your credit card company and
> dispute the charge. Make sure you have information on hand and if you
> can get any word from Hyundai to back up your claim the better.
>
> Worse case, take it to your dealer and explain to them what the other
> shop did. You'll probably need to do a drain and fill 3 times to
> ensure you get most of the fluid out since a drain and fill only
> drains a partial amount of fluid from the transmission.
>
> Good Luck
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

hyundaitech

I think the real issue is that there's actually very little dye in the
fluid, allowing particles from wearable components discolor the fluid
quickly.

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Mike

> What does it do that makes you more satisfied? How can you tell the
> difference?

I had a problem with the OEM fluid burning. The Amsoil seems to have a
higher operating temperature. ]I was having to change the OEM fluid
twice a year. There is no transmission cooler on my 02 Accent, my commute
is 150 miles round trip. The OEM fluid would get hot, turn brown, and
smell burnt. The full synthetic Amsoil does not do any of these things.