illusion123a

Ok so today I got a speeding ticket. I am not worried about the cost of the
ticket, but more so the points. I am going to fight it, and hopefully get
out. The cop listed my car as grey, it is silver, and also as a SDN, under
type, i am assuming that her means sedan. Is a 2 door hatchback considered
a sedan? Any tips for when i go to court? Should i even bother fighting
this? I live in Pa

Matthew Rebbert

If it's your first offense and it was not a horrible one (IE. Reckless
driving) if you plead guilty (at court there will be many people there for
the same thing, he asks for a plea one at a time, if you plead guilty
typically you pay (and attend) driving school and they drop the ticket and
points). If you plead not guilty that will be a touch more difficult
because it will become your word against his, and they sometimes have
camera's that record all the offense. The two saving graces might be a. he
does not show up (You are released because you have the right to face your
accuser (not done it but have had friends told me they've done it, so take
with a grain of salt)) or b. he did not calibrate his radar gun that day
(works if he shot you, if he tailed you that's pretty much out (again with
the friends and salt)). So if I were you plead guilty go to driving school
(Get a discount on your auto policy maybe) and move on while driving more
defensively. The details about the car are negligible and won't make much
difference to the judge as he probably got your VIN and license plate
numbers and really that's all that matters unless it was a camera that got
you.


"illusion123a" <almatters@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c2d7f3727e2e4f0daa4a0dac5a8ed1a5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Ok so today I got a speeding ticket. I am not worried about the cost of
> the
> ticket, but more so the points. I am going to fight it, and hopefully get
> out. The cop listed my car as grey, it is silver, and also as a SDN, under
> type, i am assuming that her means sedan. Is a 2 door hatchback considered
> a sedan? Any tips for when i go to court? Should i even bother fighting
> this? I live in Pa
>

illusion123a

i was thinking that becasue he had my liscense it would show that the car
is registered to a silver not grey car...i dont know. I dont think they do
driving school in pa unless you get your liscense revoked. I do have one
ticket for running a red light a little over 1 year ago

nothermark

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:36:25 -0500, "illusion123a"
<almatters@comcast.net> wrote:

>Ok so today I got a speeding ticket. I am not worried about the cost of the
>ticket, but more so the points. I am going to fight it, and hopefully get
>out. The cop listed my car as grey, it is silver, and also as a SDN, under
>type, i am assuming that her means sedan. Is a 2 door hatchback considered
>a sedan? Any tips for when i go to court? Should i even bother fighting
>this? I live in Pa

details won't matter unless you are a lawyer or hire one. Some courts
*might* let you out on the details if they think that you are paying
the lawyer more than the fine would be. The judge will know what the
lawyer cost you. I would not count on winning this if I was you.

If you had more points where you could lose driving then the DA will
deal in some cases depending on what happened.

Brian Nystrom

illusion123a wrote:
> i was thinking that becasue he had my liscense it would show that the car
> is registered to a silver not grey car...i dont know. I dont think they do
> driving school in pa unless you get your liscense revoked. I do have one
> ticket for running a red light a little over 1 year ago
>
If that's your strategy, forget it, as they can amend these minor
details in court. As long as the VIN on the ticket is correct, they have
you dead to rights. Unless you have some evidence that the officer did
not correctly gauge your speed, taking this to court is a waste of time.

Neil

"illusion123a" <almatters@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:c2d7f3727e2e4f0daa4a0dac5a8ed1a5@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> Ok so today I got a speeding ticket. I am not worried about the cost of
the
> ticket, but more so the points. I am going to fight it, and hopefully get
> out. The cop listed my car as grey, it is silver, and also as a SDN, under
> type, i am assuming that her means sedan. Is a 2 door hatchback considered
> a sedan? Any tips for when i go to court? Should i even bother fighting
> this? I live in Pa
>

I appreciate you're in PA, but FWIW I have a colleague who received a ticket
in MD and because the cop didn't show up to court, the charge was dropped.
The same happened with my brother-in-law who also received a ticket in MD.
I'd suggest going to court, and if possible wait until you know if your cop
is there before deciding whether to plead guilty or not guilty.

illusion123a

I was very nice to the cop and he was very nice to me, he even joked that I
could get away with speeding on the interstate, but that he didnt tell me
that. I am hoping that if he shows up he will reduce my ticket. This is my
forst speedin ticket since I was 16, (that was 8 years ago) I did get on
red light violation in oct '03. I also iasked the cop is he knew my dad
and brother, who are correctional officers..he said no, but it was worth a
try. Right now the worst case seniro is i have to pay the full fine and get
points, this WILL happen if i plead guilty, but MAY happen if i take it to
court, so i firgure that buy fighting it i have nothing to loose,
espically as the court costs are already included in the ticket. THANKS
for the HELP

kaboom

On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 18:36:25 -0500, "illusion123a"
<almatters@comcast.net> wrote:

>Ok so today I got a speeding ticket. I am not worried about the cost of the
>ticket, but more so the points. I am going to fight it, and hopefully get
>out. The cop listed my car as grey, it is silver, and also as a SDN, under
>type, i am assuming that her means sedan. Is a 2 door hatchback considered
>a sedan? Any tips for when i go to court? Should i even bother fighting
>this? I live in Pa

**Aside from the cop not showing up, I know that in Michigan sometimes
people can plead to pay the fine but ask to avoid having points
assessed to their licenses. It's up to the judge's discretion but it's
a shot. What color it is or whether it's a hatchback or not isn't
grounds for dismissal, if that's what your pushing for. I know I'd
rather avoid the points.

kaboomie

illusion123a

I was very nice to the cop and he was very nice to me, he even joked that I
could get away with speeding on the interstate, I am hoping that if he
shows up he will reduce my ticket. This is my frrst speeding ticket since
I was 16, (that was 8 years ago) I did get on red light violation in oct
'03. I also asked the cop if he knew my dad and brother, who are
correctional officers..he said no, but it was worth a try. Right now the
worst case seniro is i have to pay the full fine and get points, this WILL
happen if i plead guilty, but MAY happen if i take it to court, so i
firgure that by fighting it i have nothing to loose, espically as the
court costs are already included in the ticket. THANKS for the HELP

Brian Nystrom

illusion123a wrote:
> I was very nice to the cop and he was very nice to me, he even joked that I
> could get away with speeding on the interstate, but that he didnt tell me
> that. I am hoping that if he shows up he will reduce my ticket. This is my
> forst speedin ticket since I was 16, (that was 8 years ago) I did get on
> red light violation in oct '03. I also iasked the cop is he knew my dad
> and brother, who are correctional officers..he said no, but it was worth a
> try. Right now the worst case seniro is i have to pay the full fine and get
> points, this WILL happen if i plead guilty, but MAY happen if i take it to
> court, so i firgure that buy fighting it i have nothing to loose,
> espically as the court costs are already included in the ticket. THANKS
> for the HELP
>
Actually, you do have more to lose, the court costs. I fought one ticket
and got the fine reduced, but the court cost brought it right back up to
the original amount. If the judge thinks your defense is frivolous, you
may end up paying court costs on top of the original fine.

illusion123a

The court costs are already included in the fine, the only extra cost is
$6.