A. Sinan Unur

"Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :

> smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>
> Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>
> It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
> is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
> in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
> good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
> unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
> more than an Accent.

Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:

http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car

I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).

In that same area,

http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/

has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:

http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854

Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
higher, that's a $15K price difference.

At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
of gas.

Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
150,000 miles that the savings can fund.

Note that, this ignores the interest savings as well.

On the other hand, I see prices around $20K Canadian mentioned on some
websites (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...tcabriolet.htm)

However, the same reviewer also notes:

<blockquote>
Situate a smart behind a large truck or a bus, and it gets
positively hinky on you, as the front wheels lift and the
vehicle gets pushed around in the turbulent air.
</blockquote>

....

<blockquote>
But don't forget, for $16,000 (let alone $21,000 for the cabriolet)
you can buy a very well equipped Toyota Echo Hatch, or even a base
Mazda3 sedan. They won't have the same cachet, I grant you, but if
you're thinking the smart's a bargain, these are some
comparably-priced options. The smart cabriolet will be the cheapest
convertible on the road, however.
</blockquote>

Sinan

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Tom

Yea, it's unfortunate that ZAP has bumped the price up and out of reach of
reality. The thing costs much less elsewhere.


"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97B4B119A82C2asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>> smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>> Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>> It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>> is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>> in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>> good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>> unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>> more than an Accent.
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.
>
> Note that, this ignores the interest savings as well.
>
> On the other hand, I see prices around $20K Canadian mentioned on some
> websites (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...tcabriolet.htm)
>
> However, the same reviewer also notes:
>
> <blockquote>
> Situate a smart behind a large truck or a bus, and it gets
> positively hinky on you, as the front wheels lift and the
> vehicle gets pushed around in the turbulent air.
> </blockquote>
>
> ...
>
> <blockquote>
> But don't forget, for $16,000 (let alone $21,000 for the cabriolet)
> you can buy a very well equipped Toyota Echo Hatch, or even a base
> Mazda3 sedan. They won't have the same cachet, I grant you, but if
> you're thinking the smart's a bargain, these are some
> comparably-priced options. The smart cabriolet will be the cheapest
> convertible on the road, however.
> </blockquote>
>
> Sinan
>
> --
> A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
> (remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)

Tom

Yea, it's unfortunate that ZAP has bumped the price up and out of reach of
reality. The thing costs much less elsewhere.


"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97B4B119A82C2asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>> smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>> Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>> It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>> is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>> in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>> good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>> unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>> more than an Accent.
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.
>
> Note that, this ignores the interest savings as well.
>
> On the other hand, I see prices around $20K Canadian mentioned on some
> websites (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...tcabriolet.htm)
>
> However, the same reviewer also notes:
>
> <blockquote>
> Situate a smart behind a large truck or a bus, and it gets
> positively hinky on you, as the front wheels lift and the
> vehicle gets pushed around in the turbulent air.
> </blockquote>
>
> ...
>
> <blockquote>
> But don't forget, for $16,000 (let alone $21,000 for the cabriolet)
> you can buy a very well equipped Toyota Echo Hatch, or even a base
> Mazda3 sedan. They won't have the same cachet, I grant you, but if
> you're thinking the smart's a bargain, these are some
> comparably-priced options. The smart cabriolet will be the cheapest
> convertible on the road, however.
> </blockquote>
>
> Sinan
>
> --
> A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
> (remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)

Tom

Yea, it's unfortunate that ZAP has bumped the price up and out of reach of
reality. The thing costs much less elsewhere.


"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97B4B119A82C2asu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>> smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>> Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>> It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>> is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>> in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>> good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>> unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>> more than an Accent.
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.
>
> Note that, this ignores the interest savings as well.
>
> On the other hand, I see prices around $20K Canadian mentioned on some
> websites (http://www.canadiandriver.com/articl...tcabriolet.htm)
>
> However, the same reviewer also notes:
>
> <blockquote>
> Situate a smart behind a large truck or a bus, and it gets
> positively hinky on you, as the front wheels lift and the
> vehicle gets pushed around in the turbulent air.
> </blockquote>
>
> ...
>
> <blockquote>
> But don't forget, for $16,000 (let alone $21,000 for the cabriolet)
> you can buy a very well equipped Toyota Echo Hatch, or even a base
> Mazda3 sedan. They won't have the same cachet, I grant you, but if
> you're thinking the smart's a bargain, these are some
> comparably-priced options. The smart cabriolet will be the cheapest
> convertible on the road, however.
> </blockquote>
>
> Sinan
>
> --
> A. Sinan Unur <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid>
> (remove .invalid and reverse each component for email address)

Brian Nystrom

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>
>>smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>>Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>>It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>>is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>>in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>>good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>>unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>>more than an Accent.
>
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.

Actually, it's much more than that, as you you have to figure it out
based on the the difference in cost per mile, not just the absolute
number of gallons/miles you could drive with the savings, since you're
using gas in the Smart Car, too. I did some quick math the other day
based on $12K difference in price and $3/gallon gas and here are the
results of how far you would have to drive to make up the price difference:

50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 40 mpg ($.075/mile) = 800,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 35 mpg ($.0857/mile) = 467,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 30 mpg ($.10/mile) = 300,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 25 mpg ($.12/mile) = 200,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 20 mpg ($.15/mile) = 133,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 15 mpg ($.2/mile) = 96,000 miles

These mileage numbers are arbitrary, but the the same difference in cost
per mile will yield the same results, regardless of the actual numbers
involved. Of course, these figures will vary with the cost difference
between vehicles and the price of gas, but it's pretty clear that it
would be pretty DUMB to buy a SMART for $12,000 more than another vehicle.

The same method can be used to compute the payback on a hybrid, which is
not too good, either.

Brian Nystrom

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>
>>smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>>Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>>It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>>is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>>in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>>good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>>unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>>more than an Accent.
>
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.

Actually, it's much more than that, as you you have to figure it out
based on the the difference in cost per mile, not just the absolute
number of gallons/miles you could drive with the savings, since you're
using gas in the Smart Car, too. I did some quick math the other day
based on $12K difference in price and $3/gallon gas and here are the
results of how far you would have to drive to make up the price difference:

50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 40 mpg ($.075/mile) = 800,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 35 mpg ($.0857/mile) = 467,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 30 mpg ($.10/mile) = 300,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 25 mpg ($.12/mile) = 200,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 20 mpg ($.15/mile) = 133,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 15 mpg ($.2/mile) = 96,000 miles

These mileage numbers are arbitrary, but the the same difference in cost
per mile will yield the same results, regardless of the actual numbers
involved. Of course, these figures will vary with the cost difference
between vehicles and the price of gas, but it's pretty clear that it
would be pretty DUMB to buy a SMART for $12,000 more than another vehicle.

The same method can be used to compute the payback on a hybrid, which is
not too good, either.

Brian Nystrom

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Ghislain" <ghislaing@teksavvyDOTcom> wrote in
> news:KJGdnS9LzYKn6M7ZnZ2dnUVZ_sCdnZ2d@teksavvy.com :
>
>
>>smart, according to Mercedez-Benz Canada:
>> City estimate: 4.6 l/100 km
>> Highway estimate: 3.7 l/100 km (manual)
>> 3.8 l/100 km (automatic)
>>
>>Accent hatchback, according to Hyundai Canada:
>> City estimate: 8.1 l/100 km (5-Speed Manual)
>> 8.9 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>> Highway estimate: 6.5 l/100 km (manual)
>> 6.2 l/100 km (4-Speed Automatic)
>>
>>It looks like the smart is more fuel efficient than the Accent (which
>>is much faster). I see quite a few smart where I live and nothing else
>>in that price range will attract attention like a smart. This is a
>>good reason for a business to buy them (or anyone who wants to go
>>unnoticed). In Canada, the starting price of a smart is $3,700 CDN
>>more than an Accent.
>
>
> Let's see what we can find in the U.S.:
>
> http://www.elizabethrvauto.com/listm...rd=Smart%20Car
>
> I see them selling at about $28K (taxes etc excluded).
>
> In that same area,
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US/
>
> has a 2005 Hyundai Accent 4dr Sedan GLS Auto listed at $13K:
>
> http://www.arapahoehyundai.com/en_US...id%3D521498854
>
> Ignoring the fact that the sales tax on the smart car will be
> higher, that's a $15K price difference.
>
> At the current prices, that translates to about 5,000 more gallons
> of gas.
>
> Say, you get an average 30 mpg out of the Accent. That translates to
> 150,000 miles that the savings can fund.

Actually, it's much more than that, as you you have to figure it out
based on the the difference in cost per mile, not just the absolute
number of gallons/miles you could drive with the savings, since you're
using gas in the Smart Car, too. I did some quick math the other day
based on $12K difference in price and $3/gallon gas and here are the
results of how far you would have to drive to make up the price difference:

50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 40 mpg ($.075/mile) = 800,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 35 mpg ($.0857/mile) = 467,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 30 mpg ($.10/mile) = 300,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 25 mpg ($.12/mile) = 200,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 20 mpg ($.15/mile) = 133,000 miles
50 mpg ($.06/mile) vs 15 mpg ($.2/mile) = 96,000 miles

These mileage numbers are arbitrary, but the the same difference in cost
per mile will yield the same results, regardless of the actual numbers
involved. Of course, these figures will vary with the cost difference
between vehicles and the price of gas, but it's pretty clear that it
would be pretty DUMB to buy a SMART for $12,000 more than another vehicle.

The same method can be used to compute the payback on a hybrid, which is
not too good, either.

CBX2@webtv.net

Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
the eision was announced.

RIPPER
FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!

CBX2@webtv.net

Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
the eision was announced.

RIPPER
FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!

CBX2@webtv.net

Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
the eision was announced.

RIPPER
FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!

Tom

I just read the Car and Driver blurb on the Smart Car. They admitted that
it was a 'city' car and that the mileage was disappointing because they
averaged 84 mph! They had some good things to say about it and some bad
things that they said MB promised to address. The car isn't a MB, BMW, or
Rolls, it's a utilitarian means of ciy transportation. They also admitted
that it was an eye catcher and very unique. Oh well, to each his own.


<CBX2@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5951-44575A93-104@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
> Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
> offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
> parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
> they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
> cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
> slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
> tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
> the eision was announced.
>
> RIPPER
> FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
> BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!
>

Tom

I just read the Car and Driver blurb on the Smart Car. They admitted that
it was a 'city' car and that the mileage was disappointing because they
averaged 84 mph! They had some good things to say about it and some bad
things that they said MB promised to address. The car isn't a MB, BMW, or
Rolls, it's a utilitarian means of ciy transportation. They also admitted
that it was an eye catcher and very unique. Oh well, to each his own.


<CBX2@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5951-44575A93-104@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
> Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
> offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
> parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
> they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
> cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
> slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
> tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
> the eision was announced.
>
> RIPPER
> FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
> BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!
>

Tom

I just read the Car and Driver blurb on the Smart Car. They admitted that
it was a 'city' car and that the mileage was disappointing because they
averaged 84 mph! They had some good things to say about it and some bad
things that they said MB promised to address. The car isn't a MB, BMW, or
Rolls, it's a utilitarian means of ciy transportation. They also admitted
that it was an eye catcher and very unique. Oh well, to each his own.


<CBX2@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5951-44575A93-104@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
> Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
> offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
> parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
> they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
> cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
> slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
> tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
> the eision was announced.
>
> RIPPER
> FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
> BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!
>

Tom

Oh, and the mileage was 37 mpg at 84 mph.


<CBX2@webtv.net> wrote in message
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> Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
> offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
> parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
> they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
> cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
> slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
> tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
> the eision was announced.
>
> RIPPER
> FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
> BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!
>

Tom

Oh, and the mileage was 37 mpg at 84 mph.


<CBX2@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:5951-44575A93-104@storefull-3257.bay.webtv.net...
> Mercedes Benz Brought the Smart here several years ago.The corporate
> offices are in Montvale NJ and are about 5 blocks from me.They had a
> parking lot full and even a 2 seater sport model.Some ere on the road as
> they were seen drving around.Car and Driver did a report on one going
> cross country,got a crappy rating.Gas milage ws only 32-40 at best was
> slow no power uncomfortable and couldn't pass US government
> tequirementsa.Mercedes actually CLEARED their parking lot OVERNIGHT when
> the eision was announced.
>
> RIPPER
> FREEDOM WILL NEVER BE FREE!
> BOYCOTT CALIFORNIA SPORT TOURING!
>