eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com

For your information I did take a good look at the new Hyundais today.
I just didn't test drive them because I know I'm not going to buy one
and I didn't want to waste the salesmans time.

Old_Timer

On 5 Jun 2005 08:43:27 -0700, eastwardbound2003@yahoo.com wrote:

>Well wouldn't you at least agree with me that Hyundais still are not up
>in terms of refinement, reliability, and durability with Toyota,
>Subaru, VW, and Cadillac?

The most troublesome car I ever owned was a VW Rabbit. My two
previous cars before my present Sonata V6 GLS were Cadillacs. Both of
the Cadillacs had reliability problems. As for my Sonata, I can only
say that after several years of ownership I have absolutely no
buyer;'s remorse nor would I have any reservations towards buying
another new one.

Old_Timer

>
>If you still disagree than you are only fooling yourself.
>
>
><<<< > You bought a cheap Korean made car the lacks refinement. Don't
>have
>> high expectations and you won't get dissapointed.
>
>We seem to be bringing out the trolls, don't we?
>Here's one making a grand pronouncement based on no experience
>whatsoever.
>
>Richard >>>>

Jim Wasiura

I agree my 2002 has had no problems since I have owned it and I would buy
another. Not to soon I still have a long warranty. If I compared my service
reports to the GM cars I have owned it would only make on sick. No wonder
they are on the ropes. Should I be a good American and buy GM or buy what
car I want. It does bother me. But I would rather buy a new Sonata compared
to an Impala.

Charles Pisano

Thank God , Gm is finally getting what I wished on it (probably myself
and millions of others). They could give them away and I wouldn't bite.

Having your wipers quit on you in the middle of a S. Fla downpour is a
scary thing to happen over and over (reminded me of my MGB that used to
stall in the middle of the freeway going 65).

Not to mention GM's anit-stop , eh.. I mean anti-lock brakes.

I drove an Astro van recently (because of the sale) and the doors
didn't line up right and it reminded me of my Blazer. I guess a test
drive now and then to refresh the memory is a good thing.

Diarmud387@adelphia.net

Whoa, hold on there. I own a VW Jetta, it may be engineered correctly
but it's reliability is at the bottom. We have spent literally
thousands on car repairs that others dont. . first 50k miles . . many
small problems plus not covered byk warranty were . . front wheel
bearing (?), pressure hose for power steering (?), many fault codes,
cat converter replaced at 82,500 (warranty good til 80,000). I stock
akuto light bulbs because they always blowing . . dealers answer was
we're abusing the car!!

Who but VW would design cup holders that when in use completely
obstruct the readio/CD control?

In 1998 they were using a coolant sensor that failed all the time, in
2003 they were still putting it in cars.

How about the great remote key fobs that work no more than 2 feet from
the drivers window? The dealer told me to hold the FOB on my forehead
when I clicked it. TRUE STORY.

How about the falling windows that they knew about in 1998 and were
still putting the same parts in 2003 cars?

Next time you come to a knife fight, come with a knife, not a plastic
spoon.

Diarmud387@adelphia.net

You're right, it's so advanced you have to remove the transmission to
relace the atf filter.