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Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
I've been the owner of a Sontota Limited for about 3 1/2 hours now. I
test drove it and picked it up during the day, but after driving about the countryside at night, I have a question. The headlights are fine when the road is straight and level. There is a very definite line of lighted, and unlighted space ahead. There is no stray light to speak of above about 8 feet of so. The problems though, was when I hit some hilly areas. As the car is going down an incline, the lighted portion becomes very short in front of the car and visibility is unsafe to drive above about 30 mph ! If something jumped out in front, it would be a serious problem. With high beams on, it is OK. Is this normal for the projector style bulbs? IMO, it is damned dangerous to drive on a very dark road with some hills with just low beams. The car is going back to the dealer tomorrow for some other issues with the remote starter, interior lights. We are not off to a good start (no pun intended, but hey, it works) -- Ed http://pages.cthome.net/edhome/ |
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Ed, I have had my 2007 Limited for one month and have the same issue. It
appears to be inherent in this car. If you have the beams adjusted upwards, you risk always having on coming traffic think your high beams are on. If there is a solution, I would like to know one as well. |
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Ed, I have had my 2007 Limited for one month and have the same issue. It
appears to be inherent in this car. If you have the beams adjusted upwards, you risk always having on coming traffic think your high beams are on. If there is a solution, I would like to know one as well. |
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"cableguy3" <larrygoldman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b08c46d053de32751b132206dd8eb854@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > Ed, I have had my 2007 Limited for one month and have the same issue. It > appears to be inherent in this car. If you have the beams adjusted > upwards, you risk always having on coming traffic think your high beams > are on. > > If there is a solution, I would like to know one as well. If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my LeSabre. My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them. One more thing, on the dashboard, is the buttons for the trip meter and reset supposed to be lighted? On mine, they are not. I have other lighting issued, but I think that is all due to the remote starter installation. This is the first care I've ever had to take back after only 40 miles. |
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"cableguy3" <larrygoldman@comcast.net> wrote in message news:b08c46d053de32751b132206dd8eb854@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com... > Ed, I have had my 2007 Limited for one month and have the same issue. It > appears to be inherent in this car. If you have the beams adjusted > upwards, you risk always having on coming traffic think your high beams > are on. > > If there is a solution, I would like to know one as well. If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my LeSabre. My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them. One more thing, on the dashboard, is the buttons for the trip meter and reset supposed to be lighted? On mine, they are not. I have other lighting issued, but I think that is all due to the remote starter installation. This is the first care I've ever had to take back after only 40 miles. |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:7HmQg.3862$6S3.2785@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t... > > If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to > leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too > often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark > also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my LeSabre. > > My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the > expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them. I had not heard of anyone complaining of this Ed. My wife's Sonata is an '04, so it's not the same as your '06, but its lights rank among the best I've ever had on a car. I can only wish that my Grand Am could throw light like her Sonata does. > > One more thing, on the dashboard, is the buttons for the trip meter and > reset supposed to be lighted? On mine, they are not. I have other lighting > issued, but I think that is all due to the remote starter installation. > This is the first care I've ever had to take back after only 40 miles. > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:7HmQg.3862$6S3.2785@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t... > > If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to > leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too > often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark > also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my LeSabre. > > My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the > expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them. I had not heard of anyone complaining of this Ed. My wife's Sonata is an '04, so it's not the same as your '06, but its lights rank among the best I've ever had on a car. I can only wish that my Grand Am could throw light like her Sonata does. > > One more thing, on the dashboard, is the buttons for the trip meter and > reset supposed to be lighted? On mine, they are not. I have other lighting > issued, but I think that is all due to the remote starter installation. > This is the first care I've ever had to take back after only 40 miles. > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:2PxQg.4065$zs6.1661@trndny07... > > "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > > > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? > > > > Lighting issues associated with the remote starter installation. The dealer > took it to a local shop that supposedly makes their living installing these > things and they either put in a defective unit or just botched the job. > > The starter starts the care, then it runs ten seconds and stops and repeats > four times. Lights are supposed to go on and stay on for 1 minute when you > lock the doors. They do not. A competent installer should have caught all > of that. It is back there now to get fixed. . > That sucks. You're right - a competent installer should never have let the car go like that. Did it act like that when you picked it up at the dealer, or did that develop shortly after that? -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message news:2PxQg.4065$zs6.1661@trndny07... > > "Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > > > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? > > > > Lighting issues associated with the remote starter installation. The dealer > took it to a local shop that supposedly makes their living installing these > things and they either put in a defective unit or just botched the job. > > The starter starts the care, then it runs ten seconds and stops and repeats > four times. Lights are supposed to go on and stay on for 1 minute when you > lock the doors. They do not. A competent installer should have caught all > of that. It is back there now to get fixed. . > That sucks. You're right - a competent installer should never have let the car go like that. Did it act like that when you picked it up at the dealer, or did that develop shortly after that? -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? > Lighting issues associated with the remote starter installation. The dealer took it to a local shop that supposedly makes their living installing these things and they either put in a defective unit or just botched the job. The starter starts the care, then it runs ten seconds and stops and repeats four times. Lights are supposed to go on and stay on for 1 minute when you lock the doors. They do not. A competent installer should have caught all of that. It is back there now to get fixed. . Other than that, seems to be OK. |
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > > What lighting issues are you having Ed? > Lighting issues associated with the remote starter installation. The dealer took it to a local shop that supposedly makes their living installing these things and they either put in a defective unit or just botched the job. The starter starts the care, then it runs ten seconds and stops and repeats four times. Lights are supposed to go on and stay on for 1 minute when you lock the doors. They do not. A competent installer should have caught all of that. It is back there now to get fixed. . Other than that, seems to be OK. |
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > That sucks. You're right - a competent installer should never have let > the > car go like that. Did it act like that when you picked it up at the > dealer, > or did that develop shortly after that? > It did start once and we shut it right off because we were going over everything else. The dealer (salesperson) really didn't have a clue. Later in the evening I read the manual and figured out how things work, like the trunk release that uses the same button as the "unlock", just held for three seconds. . So far, the dealer is interesting in making things right. Supposedly, Hyundai is covering things in the first year that are technically not covered, like wiper blades, just to keep customers very happy. While I was typing this, they called and said the car is ready. Ed |
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"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message > That sucks. You're right - a competent installer should never have let > the > car go like that. Did it act like that when you picked it up at the > dealer, > or did that develop shortly after that? > It did start once and we shut it right off because we were going over everything else. The dealer (salesperson) really didn't have a clue. Later in the evening I read the manual and figured out how things work, like the trunk release that uses the same button as the "unlock", just held for three seconds. . So far, the dealer is interesting in making things right. Supposedly, Hyundai is covering things in the first year that are technically not covered, like wiper blades, just to keep customers very happy. While I was typing this, they called and said the car is ready. Ed |
Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> I've been the owner of a Sontota Limited for about 3 1/2 hours now. I > test drove it and picked it up during the day, but after driving about the > countryside at night, I have a question. > > The headlights are fine when the road is straight and level. There is a > very definite line of lighted, and unlighted space ahead. There is no stray > light to speak of above about 8 feet of so. The problems though, was when I > hit some hilly areas. As the car is going down an incline, the lighted > portion becomes very short in front of the car and visibility is unsafe to > drive above about 30 mph ! If something jumped out in front, it would be a > serious problem. With high beams on, it is OK. > > Is this normal for the projector style bulbs? IMO, it is damned dangerous > to drive on a very dark road with some hills with just low beams. > > The car is going back to the dealer tomorrow for some other issues with the > remote starter, interior lights. We are not off to a good start (no pun > intended, but hey, it works) It's typical of a lot of newer cars. The lights are brighter and have more distinct cut-offs that the lights in older cars. There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a dark hill if you need more illumination. |
Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> I've been the owner of a Sontota Limited for about 3 1/2 hours now. I > test drove it and picked it up during the day, but after driving about the > countryside at night, I have a question. > > The headlights are fine when the road is straight and level. There is a > very definite line of lighted, and unlighted space ahead. There is no stray > light to speak of above about 8 feet of so. The problems though, was when I > hit some hilly areas. As the car is going down an incline, the lighted > portion becomes very short in front of the car and visibility is unsafe to > drive above about 30 mph ! If something jumped out in front, it would be a > serious problem. With high beams on, it is OK. > > Is this normal for the projector style bulbs? IMO, it is damned dangerous > to drive on a very dark road with some hills with just low beams. > > The car is going back to the dealer tomorrow for some other issues with the > remote starter, interior lights. We are not off to a good start (no pun > intended, but hey, it works) It's typical of a lot of newer cars. The lights are brighter and have more distinct cut-offs that the lights in older cars. There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a dark hill if you need more illumination. |
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