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Edwin Pawlowski 09-21-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
> dark hill if you need more illumination.


Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.



Edwin Pawlowski 09-21-2006 03:31 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 

"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>
> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
> dark hill if you need more illumination.


Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.



Edwin Pawlowski 09-21-2006 03:33 PM

Re: Sontota lights
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
>
> While I was typing this, they called and said the car is ready.
> Ed
>

Picked it up and seems OK for starting. I was told it was a bad connection.
Problem was the installer, not Hyundai or the dealer.



Edwin Pawlowski 09-21-2006 03:33 PM

Re: Sontota lights
 

"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
>
> While I was typing this, they called and said the car is ready.
> Ed
>

Picked it up and seems OK for starting. I was told it was a bad connection.
Problem was the installer, not Hyundai or the dealer.



Mike Marlow 09-21-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Sontat
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:yzCQg.1418$Db4.172537@news1.epix.net...

>
> I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
> last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
> roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
> enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
> This isn't good in deer country.
>


I stand corrected Matt - I do recall you mentioning that.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 09-21-2006 04:25 PM

Re: Sontat
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:yzCQg.1418$Db4.172537@news1.epix.net...

>
> I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
> last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
> roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
> enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
> This isn't good in deer country.
>


I stand corrected Matt - I do recall you mentioning that.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 04:26 PM

Re: Sontat
 
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:7HmQg.3862$6S3.2785@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>
>
>>If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to
>>leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too
>>often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark
>>also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my

>
> LeSabre.
>
>> My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the
>>expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them.

>
>
> I had not heard of anyone complaining of this Ed. My wife's Sonata is an
> '04, so it's not the same as your '06, but its lights rank among the best
> I've ever had on a car. I can only wish that my Grand Am could throw light
> like her Sonata does.


I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
This isn't good in deer country.

Matt

Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 04:26 PM

Re: Sontat
 
Mike Marlow wrote:
> "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> wrote in message
> news:7HmQg.3862$6S3.2785@newssvr25.news.prodigy.ne t...
>
>
>>If the road is very dark and not well traveled, it is not a big deal to
>>leave the high beams on. I found myself flipping them off and on far too
>>often on at least one road as a car would approach. Turns are very dark
>>also, but I'll admit I've been spoiled by the turning lights on my

>
> LeSabre.
>
>> My guess is that the projector bulb concentrates the light better, at the
>>expense of peripheral vision. This is my first car with them.

>
>
> I had not heard of anyone complaining of this Ed. My wife's Sonata is an
> '04, so it's not the same as your '06, but its lights rank among the best
> I've ever had on a car. I can only wish that my Grand Am could throw light
> like her Sonata does.


I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
This isn't good in deer country.

Matt

kaboom 09-21-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:31:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
>> dark hill if you need more illumination.

>
>Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
>some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
>getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.


**I have to agree with Edwin. I have a 2005 Impreza and the headlights
cut off sharply and, I feel, don't project far enough. I'm from MI
where the roads are straight and flat so I didn't have too much
trouble driving around (that, plus I rarely drive at night). I still
feel very uncomfortable with what they're *not* illuminating.

I'm now visiting family in CT and the other night I drove some unlit,
tiny curvy roads and was *really* displeased with the lights. Every
corner was a surprise, fast and unexpected is right! I wasn't even
going fast (Gran was in the car) :) either but it felt really weird.
I had the dealership look at it a few days later but they said that
the headlights were correct. I shouldn't have to have my high beams on
at all. They used to be a rare occasion but I have to use them all the
time for night driving with this car. I don't think that's right.

kaboomie

kaboom 09-21-2006 06:27 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:31:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
wrote:

>
>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
>> dark hill if you need more illumination.

>
>Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
>some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
>getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.


**I have to agree with Edwin. I have a 2005 Impreza and the headlights
cut off sharply and, I feel, don't project far enough. I'm from MI
where the roads are straight and flat so I didn't have too much
trouble driving around (that, plus I rarely drive at night). I still
feel very uncomfortable with what they're *not* illuminating.

I'm now visiting family in CT and the other night I drove some unlit,
tiny curvy roads and was *really* displeased with the lights. Every
corner was a surprise, fast and unexpected is right! I wasn't even
going fast (Gran was in the car) :) either but it felt really weird.
I had the dealership look at it a few days later but they said that
the headlights were correct. I shouldn't have to have my high beams on
at all. They used to be a rare occasion but I have to use them all the
time for night driving with this car. I don't think that's right.

kaboomie

Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 07:16 PM

Re: Sontat
 
Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:yzCQg.1418$Db4.172537@news1.epix.net...
>
>
>>I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
>>last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
>>roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
>>enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
>> This isn't good in deer country.
>>

>
>
> I stand corrected Matt - I do recall you mentioning that.
>


I did find a solution, however. I just close my eyes until I'm heading
up the other side and the lights become effective again. :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 07:16 PM

Re: Sontat
 
Mike Marlow wrote:

> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> news:yzCQg.1418$Db4.172537@news1.epix.net...
>
>
>>I mentioned this in this forum shortly after I got my 06 in December of
>>last year. It isn't much of an issue on the highway, but on the back
>>roads where I live, it is a real pain on the rolling hills. As you
>>enter a dip in the road, you can't see 30 yards in front of the vehicle.
>> This isn't good in deer country.
>>

>
>
> I stand corrected Matt - I do recall you mentioning that.
>


I did find a solution, however. I just close my eyes until I'm heading
up the other side and the lights become effective again. :-)

Matt

Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 
kaboom wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:31:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
>>>dark hill if you need more illumination.

>>
>>Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
>>some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
>>getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.

>
>
> **I have to agree with Edwin. I have a 2005 Impreza and the headlights
> cut off sharply and, I feel, don't project far enough. I'm from MI
> where the roads are straight and flat so I didn't have too much
> trouble driving around (that, plus I rarely drive at night). I still
> feel very uncomfortable with what they're *not* illuminating.
>
> I'm now visiting family in CT and the other night I drove some unlit,
> tiny curvy roads and was *really* displeased with the lights. Every
> corner was a surprise, fast and unexpected is right! I wasn't even
> going fast (Gran was in the car) :) either but it felt really weird.
> I had the dealership look at it a few days later but they said that
> the headlights were correct. I shouldn't have to have my high beams on
> at all. They used to be a rare occasion but I have to use them all the
> time for night driving with this car. I don't think that's right.


Your high beams should be used ALL of the time at night, except when
another car is oncoming or you are driving in fog, snow, etc. That is
what high beams are for.


Matt

Matt Whiting 09-21-2006 07:17 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 
kaboom wrote:

> On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 19:31:29 GMT, "Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net>
> wrote:
>
>
>>"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>
>>> There's no reason you can't flip on your high beams when going down a
>>>dark hill if you need more illumination.

>>
>>Yeah, flip, flip, flip, depending on condition it is a real PITA and on
>>some roads, the "dark spot" comes up fast and unexpected. It will take some
>>getting used to; sometimes progress isn't.

>
>
> **I have to agree with Edwin. I have a 2005 Impreza and the headlights
> cut off sharply and, I feel, don't project far enough. I'm from MI
> where the roads are straight and flat so I didn't have too much
> trouble driving around (that, plus I rarely drive at night). I still
> feel very uncomfortable with what they're *not* illuminating.
>
> I'm now visiting family in CT and the other night I drove some unlit,
> tiny curvy roads and was *really* displeased with the lights. Every
> corner was a surprise, fast and unexpected is right! I wasn't even
> going fast (Gran was in the car) :) either but it felt really weird.
> I had the dealership look at it a few days later but they said that
> the headlights were correct. I shouldn't have to have my high beams on
> at all. They used to be a rare occasion but I have to use them all the
> time for night driving with this car. I don't think that's right.


Your high beams should be used ALL of the time at night, except when
another car is oncoming or you are driving in fog, snow, etc. That is
what high beams are for.


Matt

kaboom 09-21-2006 08:17 PM

Re: Sontat "projection lamp" headlight question.
 
On Thu, 21 Sep 2006 23:17:54 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote:

>kaboom wrote:


>> I'm now visiting family in CT and the other night I drove some unlit,
>> tiny curvy roads and was *really* displeased with the lights. Every
>> corner was a surprise, fast and unexpected is right! I wasn't even
>> going fast (Gran was in the car) :) either but it felt really weird.
>> I had the dealership look at it a few days later but they said that
>> the headlights were correct. I shouldn't have to have my high beams on
>> at all. They used to be a rare occasion but I have to use them all the
>> time for night driving with this car. I don't think that's right.

>
>Your high beams should be used ALL of the time at night, except when
>another car is oncoming or you are driving in fog, snow, etc. That is
>what high beams are for.


**And all those etceteras add up to: My high beams are rarely used.
There's usually always traffic, oncoming or I'm following or I'm
already in a well-lit neighborhood or area. I don't like running
through people's neighborhoods with my high beams on. Do I use my high
beams in sparsely-populated areas, low traffic, and/or underlit areas?
Yes, of course, I do. I'm saying that my previous vehicles had
excellent lighting, that I did not need my high beams to see up ahead.
With the Impreza, I feel that I absolutely *must* use them or else I
can't see and that is my complaint and a problem. Also, some of us
prefer a manual transmission so I really don't need or want to be
constantly flicking the lights while I'm trying to maneuver curvy back
roads.

kaboomie


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