Guncho

Ever since I got the a few belts replaced, my 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI
squeals like a pig when it's cold. This usually lasts for about a
minute and then goes away. I also hear this squeal occasionally if I
turn the wheel all the way one way or the other.

What is this? And is it something that has to be fixed or can wait a
while.

My manual mentions something about the front disc brakes having
indicators that make a high pitched squeal if the brakes need
replacing. Is this the problem?

Chris

Edwin Pawlowski

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ever since I got the a few belts replaced, my 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI
> squeals like a pig when it's cold. This usually lasts for about a
> minute and then goes away. I also hear this squeal occasionally if I
> turn the wheel all the way one way or the other.
>
> What is this? And is it something that has to be fixed or can wait a
> while.

Turning the wheel uses the power steering pump. I don't know about your
model, but many of them have an nternal pressure relief valve that will
squeal when full over to one side or the other. It would not normally make
any noise when not turning. Squeal can come from a defective idler pully
bearing, pump or alternator bearing, pully mis-alignment, worn belt, too
tight a belt.

>
> My manual mentions something about the front disc brakes having
> indicators that make a high pitched squeal if the brakes need
> replacing. Is this the problem?

The wear indicators are only heard when the car is moving.

Guncho

On Feb 23, 3:02 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> "Guncho" <cgun...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:1172260106.793520.244540@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
>
> > Ever since I got the a few belts replaced, my 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI
> > squeals like a pig when it's cold. This usually lasts for about a
> > minute and then goes away. I also hear this squeal occasionally if I
> > turn the wheel all the way one way or the other.
>
> > What is this? And is it something that has to be fixed or can wait a
> > while.
>
> Turning the wheel uses the power steering pump. I don't know about your
> model, but many of them have an nternal pressure relief valve that will
> squeal when full over to one side or the other. It would not normally make
> any noise when not turning. Squeal can come from a defective idler pully
> bearing, pump or alternator bearing, pully mis-alignment, worn belt, too
> tight a belt.
>
>
>
> > My manual mentions something about the front disc brakes having
> > indicators that make a high pitched squeal if the brakes need
> > replacing. Is this the problem?
>
> The wear indicators are only heard when the car is moving.

I think it is the power steering belt as it is the exact same sound as
when I turn the wheel all the way to the left or right.

Next time I get an oil change, I'll get them to check it out.

Chris

Rob

Belts are probably loose.



"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> Ever since I got the a few belts replaced, my 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI
> squeals like a pig when it's cold. This usually lasts for about a
> minute and then goes away. I also hear this squeal occasionally if I
> turn the wheel all the way one way or the other.
>
> What is this? And is it something that has to be fixed or can wait a
> while.
>
> My manual mentions something about the front disc brakes having
> indicators that make a high pitched squeal if the brakes need
> replacing. Is this the problem?
>
> Chris
>

Hyundaitech

More likely, it’s the alternator belt. The alternator belt drives the
water pump, which in turn, via the power steering belt, drives the
power steering pump. The alternator belts on Hyundais need to be
tensioned very tight to keep them from squealing. Usually, any
movement of the belt when applying light finger pressure (with car
off!) will lead to a squeak or squeal

"Guncho" wrote
> On Feb 23, 3:02 pm, "Edwin Pawlowski" <e...@snet.net> wrote:
> > "Guncho" <cgun...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >
> > news:1172260106.793520.244540@p10g2000cwp.googlegr oups.com...
> >
> > > Ever since I got the a few belts replaced, my 1999 Hyundai
> Accent GSI
> > > squeals like a pig when it's cold. This usually lasts for
> about a
> > > minute and then goes away. I also hear this squeal
> occasionally if I
> > > turn the wheel all the way one way or the other.
> >
> > > What is this? And is it something that has to be fixed or
> can wait a
> > > while.
> >
> > Turning the wheel uses the power steering pump. I don't
> know about your
> > model, but many of them have an nternal pressure relief
> valve that will
> > squeal when full over to one side or the other. It would
> not normally make
> > any noise when not turning. Squeal can come from a
> defective idler pully
> > bearing, pump or alternator bearing, pully mis-alignment,
> worn belt, too
> > tight a belt.
> >
> >
> >
> > > My manual mentions something about the front disc brakes
> having
> > > indicators that make a high pitched squeal if the brakes
> need
> > > replacing. Is this the problem?
> >
> > The wear indicators are only heard when the car is moving.
>
> I think it is the power steering belt as it is the exact same
> sound as
> when I turn the wheel all the way to the left or right.
>
> Next time I get an oil change, I'll get them to check it out.
>
> Chris

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Xiaoding

Is the water pump leaking? Check for fluid on the belt.

Guncho

On Mar 5, 12:29 am, Hyundaitech <n...@000.com> wrote:
> More likely, it's the alternator belt. The alternator belt drives the
> water pump, which in turn, via the power steering belt, drives the
> power steering pump. The alternator belts on Hyundais need to be
> tensioned very tight to keep them from squealing. Usually, any
> movement of the belt when applying light finger pressure (with car
> off!) will lead to a squeak or squeal.

Actually come to think of it, the battery light gets brighter on the
dash when there's squealing.

Is this a pressing thing to fix or a "Get to it next time I get an oil
change"?

Chris

Guncho

On Mar 8, 9:04 am, "Xiaoding" <xiaodi...@jelly.toast.net> wrote:
> Is the water pump leaking? Check for fluid on the belt.

It did this last winter as well so I doubt it's the water pump
leaking. If it was, wouldn't the car be dead by now?

Chris

Mike Marlow

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 5, 12:29 am, Hyundaitech <n...@000.com> wrote:
> > More likely, it's the alternator belt. The alternator belt drives the
> > water pump, which in turn, via the power steering belt, drives the
> > power steering pump. The alternator belts on Hyundais need to be
> > tensioned very tight to keep them from squealing. Usually, any
> > movement of the belt when applying light finger pressure (with car
> > off!) will lead to a squeak or squeal.
>
> Actually come to think of it, the battery light gets brighter on the
> dash when there's squealing.
>
> Is this a pressing thing to fix or a "Get to it next time I get an oil
> change"?
>

That's the CO2 sensor going off Chris. It's advising you of an inadequate
supply of CO2 for proper operation.

Ok - that was my attempt to be humorous. You battery light is getting
brighter because it is not being charged properly by the alternator. The
more intermittent the charge, the dimmer the light will appear to be. The
more the problem persists, the brighter the light will be. I'm a believer
in fixing things when they are not working properly. You can find yourself
stranded if you delay something this simple now. You won't necessarily
cause bigger problems or component failures, but if you're driving at night
in the rain and cold, and you're putting a heavy load on the
battery/charging system, you could suddenly find yourself past the point of
the battery's ability to run the car. Adjust the belt and be done with it.
It's a simple thing to do, takes minutes, and it then becomes one more thing
that you don't have to fool with while doing that oil change.

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Edwin Pawlowski

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlow@alltel.net> wrote in message
>
> Ok - that was my attempt to be humorous. You battery light is getting
> brighter because it is not being charged properly by the alternator. The
> more intermittent the charge, the dimmer the light will appear to be. The
> more the problem persists, the brighter the light will be.

That is correct, but so counter-intuitive. Just think how low the electric
bill would be if less power meant brighter bulbs.

Guncho

On Mar 8, 5:26 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
> "Guncho" <cgun...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > On Mar 5, 12:29 am, Hyundaitech <n...@000.com> wrote:
> > > More likely, it's the alternator belt. The alternator belt drives the
> > > water pump, which in turn, via the power steering belt, drives the
> > > power steering pump. The alternator belts on Hyundais need to be
> > > tensioned very tight to keep them from squealing. Usually, any
> > > movement of the belt when applying light finger pressure (with car
> > > off!) will lead to a squeak or squeal.
>
> > Actually come to think of it, the battery light gets brighter on the
> > dash when there's squealing.
>
> > Is this a pressing thing to fix or a "Get to it next time I get an oil
> > change"?
>
> That's the CO2 sensor going off Chris. It's advising you of an inadequate
> supply of CO2 for proper operation.
>
> Ok - that was my attempt to be humorous. You battery light is getting
> brighter because it is not being charged properly by the alternator. The
> more intermittent the charge, the dimmer the light will appear to be. The
> more the problem persists, the brighter the light will be.

I'm pretty confused about here. Normally, my battery and Emergency
brake lights on my dash, flicker in relation to the RPM's of the
engine. (My alternator got a "Yellow" rating from a garage so I'm
assuming that means it's not working perfectly but is still
functioning and will probably need fixing at some point.) Both lights
get brighter when the engine is squealing.

I'm a believer
> in fixing things when they are not working properly. You can find yourself
> stranded if you delay something this simple now. You won't necessarily
> cause bigger problems or component failures, but if you're driving at night
> in the rain and cold, and you're putting a heavy load on the
> battery/charging system, you could suddenly find yourself past the point of
> the battery's ability to run the car. Adjust the belt and be done with it.
> It's a simple thing to do, takes minutes, and it then becomes one more thing
> that you don't have to fool with while doing that oil change.

Well the reason for not fixing it right away is money. I don't do any
repairs myself or oil changes. Any trip to the garage is going to
cost me money and it's cheaper if you combine two things instead of
making two trips.

Chris

Mike Marlow

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> I'm pretty confused about here. Normally, my battery and Emergency
> brake lights on my dash, flicker in relation to the RPM's of the
> engine. (My alternator got a "Yellow" rating from a garage so I'm
> assuming that means it's not working perfectly but is still
> functioning and will probably need fixing at some point.) Both lights
> get brighter when the engine is squealing.

They would get brighter when the belt is squealing because you are providing
less voltage to the battery to charge it - or keep it charged. The more the
belt is slipping, the less the system is properly charging, and the more of
an error condition you are experiencing. The poor test of your alternator
could have been from the belt slipping, or it could have been from a weak
alternator. Was the belt squealing when they tested it?

Likely you'll need a new belt at the very least. You can't tension belts
anymore, as serpentine belts have a spring tensioner that is part of the
belt path, and it keeps the belt at the right tension. Once they start to
squeal you have to change them. Don't fall for any cheap tricks like belt
dressing. The only time a belt needs dressing is for its funeral.



>
> Well the reason for not fixing it right away is money. I don't do any
> repairs myself or oil changes. Any trip to the garage is going to
> cost me money and it's cheaper if you combine two things instead of
> making two trips.
>

Understood. In that case, have the service center verify whether the
alternator output is poor due to belt slippage and go with a new belt first.
Belts are typically $20 or so. Labor would not be more than a few minutes,
but there may be a minimum labor charge.

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Guncho

On Mar 9, 8:06 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
> "Guncho" <cgun...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>
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>
> > I'm pretty confused about here. Normally, my battery and Emergency
> > brake lights on my dash, flicker in relation to the RPM's of the
> > engine. (My alternator got a "Yellow" rating from a garage so I'm
> > assuming that means it's not working perfectly but is still
> > functioning and will probably need fixing at some point.) Both lights
> > get brighter when the engine is squealing.
>
> They would get brighter when the belt is squealing because you are providing
> less voltage to the battery to charge it - or keep it charged. The more the
> belt is slipping, the less the system is properly charging, and the more of
> an error condition you are experiencing. The poor test of your alternator
> could have been from the belt slipping, or it could have been from a weak
> alternator. Was the belt squealing when they tested it?

No. The belt only squeals when it's really cold out and then for only
like 30 seconds.

Chris

Mike Marlow

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mar 9, 8:06 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:

> >
> > They would get brighter when the belt is squealing because you are
providing
> > less voltage to the battery to charge it - or keep it charged. The more
the
> > belt is slipping, the less the system is properly charging, and the more
of
> > an error condition you are experiencing. The poor test of your
alternator
> > could have been from the belt slipping, or it could have been from a
weak
> > alternator. Was the belt squealing when they tested it?
>
> No. The belt only squeals when it's really cold out and then for only
> like 30 seconds.
>

I'd get the alternator check again Chris, and if it still checks weak,
replace it. Often the bearings in an alternator will degrade, causing
resistance to the shaft rotating freely. This can result in belt squeals,
so there may be a correlation there. Either way, if the alternator tests
poorly, then you really have no choice but to replace it.

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Guncho

On Mar 13, 12:01 am, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
> "Guncho" <cgun...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Mar 9, 8:06 pm, "Mike Marlow" <mmar...@alltel.net> wrote:
>
> > > They would get brighter when the belt is squealing because you are
> providing
> > > less voltage to the battery to charge it - or keep it charged. The more
> the
> > > belt is slipping, the less the system is properly charging, and the more
> of
> > > an error condition you are experiencing. The poor test of your
> alternator
> > > could have been from the belt slipping, or it could have been from a
> weak
> > > alternator. Was the belt squealing when they tested it?
>
> > No. The belt only squeals when it's really cold out and then for only
> > like 30 seconds.
>
> I'd get the alternator check again Chris, and if it still checks weak,
> replace it. Often the bearings in an alternator will degrade, causing
> resistance to the shaft rotating freely. This can result in belt squeals,
> so there may be a correlation there. Either way, if the alternator tests
> poorly, then you really have no choice but to replace it.
>
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Well the other choice would be to hold off until it fails.

I generally can't afford to replace everything I own the second it
stops functioning perfectly and generally wait til it doesn't work at
all.

Chris