Switching between synthetic and regular oil
11-18-2006, 04:59 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
Hello VicTek,
>> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:dJo7h.16412$B31.9310@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
V> Only because cash is a little tight at the moment and I wanted to
V> save twenty dollars. I prefer the synthetic and I will probably keep
V> using it since the Wal-mart lube & oil package is still the best bang
V> for the buck in my area. I don't like being fed misinformation
V> though.
Vic,
Here is a suggestion. Save twenty dollars *and* use synthetic oil at the
same time.
How? Change the oil yourself, and use Walmart 5W-30 Super Tech Synthetic
Oil. I have been using it for over a year in my Tiburon and it is perfectly
fine. It typically costs 1/2 as much as Mobil 1 which I used before (never
used Castrol Synthetic) and for the driving I do and the conditions here,
the Walmart product would be just fine. The important thing to remember is
the API rating and the weight of the oil for the environmental conditions.
Besides that, use good quality oil and change it often.
Hyundai recommends every 7500 miles for my car under the "normal" schedule,
but I change it every 5000 miles.
Doing it yourself using this synthetic means you can get the oil change done
for under $20.
Regards,
Wayne Mose
>> "VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
>> news:dJo7h.16412$B31.9310@newssvr27.news.prodigy.n et...
V> Only because cash is a little tight at the moment and I wanted to
V> save twenty dollars. I prefer the synthetic and I will probably keep
V> using it since the Wal-mart lube & oil package is still the best bang
V> for the buck in my area. I don't like being fed misinformation
V> though.
Vic,
Here is a suggestion. Save twenty dollars *and* use synthetic oil at the
same time.
How? Change the oil yourself, and use Walmart 5W-30 Super Tech Synthetic
Oil. I have been using it for over a year in my Tiburon and it is perfectly
fine. It typically costs 1/2 as much as Mobil 1 which I used before (never
used Castrol Synthetic) and for the driving I do and the conditions here,
the Walmart product would be just fine. The important thing to remember is
the API rating and the weight of the oil for the environmental conditions.
Besides that, use good quality oil and change it often.
Hyundai recommends every 7500 miles for my car under the "normal" schedule,
but I change it every 5000 miles.
Doing it yourself using this synthetic means you can get the oil change done
for under $20.
Regards,
Wayne Mose
11-18-2006, 11:17 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
> Here is a suggestion. Save twenty dollars *and* use synthetic oil at the
> same time.
>
> How? Change the oil yourself, and use Walmart 5W-30 Super Tech Synthetic
> Oil. I have been using it for over a year in my Tiburon and it is
> perfectly fine. It typically costs 1/2 as much as Mobil 1 which I used
> before (never used Castrol Synthetic) and for the driving I do and the
> conditions here, the Walmart product would be just fine. The important
> thing to remember is the API rating and the weight of the oil for the
> environmental conditions. Besides that, use good quality oil and change it
> often.
> Hyundai recommends every 7500 miles for my car under the "normal"
> schedule, but I change it every 5000 miles.
>
> Doing it yourself using this synthetic means you can get the oil change
> done for under $20.
I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the oil
filter and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can get at the
oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of front wheel ramps,
find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...
On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
> same time.
>
> How? Change the oil yourself, and use Walmart 5W-30 Super Tech Synthetic
> Oil. I have been using it for over a year in my Tiburon and it is
> perfectly fine. It typically costs 1/2 as much as Mobil 1 which I used
> before (never used Castrol Synthetic) and for the driving I do and the
> conditions here, the Walmart product would be just fine. The important
> thing to remember is the API rating and the weight of the oil for the
> environmental conditions. Besides that, use good quality oil and change it
> often.
> Hyundai recommends every 7500 miles for my car under the "normal"
> schedule, but I change it every 5000 miles.
>
> Doing it yourself using this synthetic means you can get the oil change
> done for under $20.
I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the oil
filter and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can get at the
oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of front wheel ramps,
find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...
On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
11-18-2006, 11:36 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
"VicTek" <abc@xyz.com> wrote in message
> find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...
>
Here in CT, any place that sells oil must also take back an equivalent
amount for recycling to what you bought . We can also have it picked up at
the curb on trash day, but the idiots that wrote the regulation made a limit
of two quarts per week.
11-18-2006, 11:52 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
Hello VicTek,
V> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the
V> oil filter
Right front of engine.
V> and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can
V> get at the oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of
V> front wheel ramps,
Ramps are no good whatsoever, since the car has to be level. You can jack
up the RF wheel, and put a jack stand underneath for safety, enough to get
at the oil drain plug (or valve -- see below in this message). then when
that is off and the oil is draining, it should be lowered back to level.
V> find out where I can take the old oil for safe
V> disposal/recycling...
My local AutoZone is pleased to take the waste oil, even when I bring several
oil changes worth (which I let accumulate in the drain pan / container I
have).
V> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
Not too bad though. I have a Fumoto valve installed on my car so there is
no fiddling with the oil pan plug. See this page for more -- http://egt.gwebworks.com/garage.shtml
Regards,
Wayne Mose
V> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the
V> oil filter
Right front of engine.
V> and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can
V> get at the oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of
V> front wheel ramps,
Ramps are no good whatsoever, since the car has to be level. You can jack
up the RF wheel, and put a jack stand underneath for safety, enough to get
at the oil drain plug (or valve -- see below in this message). then when
that is off and the oil is draining, it should be lowered back to level.
V> find out where I can take the old oil for safe
V> disposal/recycling...
My local AutoZone is pleased to take the waste oil, even when I bring several
oil changes worth (which I let accumulate in the drain pan / container I
have).
V> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
Not too bad though. I have a Fumoto valve installed on my car so there is
no fiddling with the oil pan plug. See this page for more -- http://egt.gwebworks.com/garage.shtml
Regards,
Wayne Mose
11-19-2006, 08:24 AM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
VicTek wrote:
> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the oil
> filter and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can get at the
> oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of front wheel ramps,
> find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...
>
> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh
less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with
them on the ground! :-)
Matt
> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the oil
> filter and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can get at the
> oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of front wheel ramps,
> find out where I can take the old oil for safe disposal/recycling...
>
> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh
less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with
them on the ground! :-)
Matt
11-19-2006, 09:49 AM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
> the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh less
> than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with them on
> the ground! :-)
A long time ago, I used to be bale to get enough clearance to work by
driving up on 4" concrete blocks. Doubt I could today. Ramps is what I
used.
11-19-2006, 10:36 AM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
> V> I may do just that Wayne. I just need to take some time to find the
> V> oil filter
> Right front of engine.
>
> V> and see how much of a pain it will be to R&R, see if I can
> V> get at the oil pan drain plug or if I'm going to need a couple of
> V> front wheel ramps,
> Ramps are no good whatsoever, since the car has to be level. You can jack
> up the RF wheel, and put a jack stand underneath for safety, enough to get
> at the oil drain plug (or valve -- see below in this message). then when
> that is off and the oil is draining, it should be lowered back to level.
>
> V> find out where I can take the old oil for safe
> V> disposal/recycling...
>
> My local AutoZone is pleased to take the waste oil, even when I bring
> several oil changes worth (which I let accumulate in the drain pan /
> container I have).
>
>
> V> On second thought it's starting to sound like real work <g>.
>
> Not too bad though. I have a Fumoto valve installed on my car so there is
> no fiddling with the oil pan plug. See this page for more --
> http://egt.gwebworks.com/garage.shtml
This is all helpful, especially the info about the fumoto valve - thanks!
11-19-2006, 12:13 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
Hello Matt,
MW> Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4
MW> on the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to
MW> weigh less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my
MW> cars with them on the ground! :-)
I am 5"-8", 190 lbs and could change my Elantra GT and Tiburon GT without
ramps.
I even changed the oil on the EGT without raising it at all, thanks to the
Fumoto valve -- no messing with the oil pan plug and wrenches.
With the Tib, I need to raise the RF a bit to get the plastic trim piece
under the filter off (I guess I could leave it off and eliminate this step)
and to reach far enough back to get at the valve. The Tib is pretty low in
front.
Regards,
Wayne Mose
MW> Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4
MW> on the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to
MW> weigh less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my
MW> cars with them on the ground! :-)
I am 5"-8", 190 lbs and could change my Elantra GT and Tiburon GT without
ramps.
I even changed the oil on the EGT without raising it at all, thanks to the
Fumoto valve -- no messing with the oil pan plug and wrenches.
With the Tib, I need to raise the RF a bit to get the plastic trim piece
under the filter off (I guess I could leave it off and eliminate this step)
and to reach far enough back to get at the valve. The Tib is pretty low in
front.
Regards,
Wayne Mose
11-19-2006, 01:59 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
>>Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
>>the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh less
>>than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with them on
>>the ground! :-)
>
>
> A long time ago, I used to be bale to get enough clearance to work by
> driving up on 4" concrete blocks. Doubt I could today. Ramps is what I
> used.
Unfortunately, at 225 lbs, I pretty much need the ramps! :-)
Matt
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
>>Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4 on
>>the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to weigh less
>>than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my cars with them on
>>the ground! :-)
>
>
> A long time ago, I used to be bale to get enough clearance to work by
> driving up on 4" concrete blocks. Doubt I could today. Ramps is what I
> used.
Unfortunately, at 225 lbs, I pretty much need the ramps! :-)
Matt
11-19-2006, 02:02 PM
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Re: Switching between synthetic and regular oil
Wayne Moses wrote:
> Hello Matt,
>
> MW> Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4
> MW> on the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to
> MW> weigh less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my
> MW> cars with them on the ground! :-)
>
> I am 5"-8", 190 lbs and could change my Elantra GT and Tiburon GT
> without ramps.
> I even changed the oil on the EGT without raising it at all, thanks to
> the Fumoto valve -- no messing with the oil pan plug and wrenches.
I'm a little bigger than you, 6' and 225 and 5 years of work as a logger
gave me big enough shoulders that I just can't maneuver with less than
about 18" of space. My truck just barely has enough room given the
plow frame, but my minivan and Sonata aren't even close. Yes, having
the quick drain would help a lot, but I can't get to my oil filters
without raising the vehicle. The minivan is easy to see, but you have
to get behind the plastic air dam. The Sonata is up inside of a hole in
the plastic air deflector, and no way to get up in there with the car on
the ground.
Matt
> Hello Matt,
>
> MW> Wheel ramps are nearly essential for most cars. I can change my 4x4
> MW> on the ground, but my Sonata and minivan need ramps. I'd have to
> MW> weigh less than 130 lbs to even thing of getting under either of my
> MW> cars with them on the ground! :-)
>
> I am 5"-8", 190 lbs and could change my Elantra GT and Tiburon GT
> without ramps.
> I even changed the oil on the EGT without raising it at all, thanks to
> the Fumoto valve -- no messing with the oil pan plug and wrenches.
I'm a little bigger than you, 6' and 225 and 5 years of work as a logger
gave me big enough shoulders that I just can't maneuver with less than
about 18" of space. My truck just barely has enough room given the
plow frame, but my minivan and Sonata aren't even close. Yes, having
the quick drain would help a lot, but I can't get to my oil filters
without raising the vehicle. The minivan is easy to see, but you have
to get behind the plastic air dam. The Sonata is up inside of a hole in
the plastic air deflector, and no way to get up in there with the car on
the ground.
Matt
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