synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL
or higher.
The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.

John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL
or higher.
The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.

John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL
or higher.
The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.

John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i use it, and it meets all requirments for warranty etc.

"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:177a8c1c0f763f2f1535cff4391c0b6f@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i use it, and it meets all requirments for warranty etc.

"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:177a8c1c0f763f2f1535cff4391c0b6f@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i use it, and it meets all requirments for warranty etc.

"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:177a8c1c0f763f2f1535cff4391c0b6f@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

My tech 2000 jug said product of canada..
but the oils even recomended on driving television..
dont know who makes it though, maybye petro can????
"JPH" <jphagcanbereached@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9HlVf.1206$IG.547@dukeread01...
> Deck wrote:
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>>
> My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL or
> higher.
> The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
> and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
> In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
> I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
> State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.
>
> John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

My tech 2000 jug said product of canada..
but the oils even recomended on driving television..
dont know who makes it though, maybye petro can????
"JPH" <jphagcanbereached@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9HlVf.1206$IG.547@dukeread01...
> Deck wrote:
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>>
> My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL or
> higher.
> The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
> and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
> In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
> I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
> State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.
>
> John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

My tech 2000 jug said product of canada..
but the oils even recomended on driving television..
dont know who makes it though, maybye petro can????
"JPH" <jphagcanbereached@cox.net> wrote in message
news:9HlVf.1206$IG.547@dukeread01...
> Deck wrote:
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>>
> My 2005 Hyundai Accent requires oil that meets ILSAC GF-3 or API SJ, SL or
> higher.
> The Wal-Mart Super-tech full synthetic jug indicates it meets ILSAC GF-4
> and GF-3, and also SM/CF, SL, SJ, and SH.
> In other words, it exceeds the requirements set by Hyundai.
> I don't know who makes it; I've heard it was made by Quaker
> State/Pennzoil, but can't confirm that.
>
> John

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??

I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
brand name synthetics.

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??

I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
brand name synthetics.

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:
> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??

I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
brand name synthetics.

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Deck wrote:
>
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
>
> I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
> certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
> produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
> oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
> brand name synthetics.

Wal-Mart Supertech oil filters are junk, see below and other places:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Deck wrote:
>
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
>
> I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
> certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
> produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
> oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
> brand name synthetics.

Wal-Mart Supertech oil filters are junk, see below and other places:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Deck wrote:
>
>> saw somewhere in one of these posts that someone is using Wal-Mart
>> super-tech synthetic motor oil in his Hyundai. Any idea of who makes the
>> Wally_world oil and if it is legal for warranty!!??
>
>
> I've used it in my Elantra. It's good oil and of course, like any API
> certified oil, it meets or exceeds the warranty requirements. It's
> produced my Warren Oil, a large blending/bottling house that produces
> oils for major brand names. Oil analysis shows that it's comparable to
> brand name synthetics.

Wal-Mart Supertech oil filters are junk, see below and other places:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml

Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
"Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
from Pep Boys.

The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.
--
Bob

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
from Pep Boys.

The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.
--
Bob

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:


>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>Deck, so do what you wish.


Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
from Pep Boys.

The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.
--
Bob

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Just bought oil at Peb Boys...penzoil platinum. $3.50 cheaper at wallyworld
for 5 qts!

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Just bought oil at Peb Boys...penzoil platinum. $3.50 cheaper at wallyworld
for 5 qts!

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Just bought oil at Peb Boys...penzoil platinum. $3.50 cheaper at wallyworld
for 5 qts!

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Of course they do, just like Chocolate milk comes from brown cows !!!
Tunez


"Jody" <jaari1972@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:tSUVf.741$m35.70383@news20.bellglobal.com...
>i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
> "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile,
>> I
>> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>>
>
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Of course they do, just like Chocolate milk comes from brown cows !!!
Tunez


"Jody" <jaari1972@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:tSUVf.741$m35.70383@news20.bellglobal.com...
>i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
> "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile,
>> I
>> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>>
>
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Of course they do, just like Chocolate milk comes from brown cows !!!
Tunez


"Jody" <jaari1972@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
news:tSUVf.741$m35.70383@news20.bellglobal.com...
>i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?
> "Deck" <decan9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:9a2a2a18091fcf7caafb8fc3d5123e83@localhost.ta lkaboutautos.com...
>> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile,
>> I
>> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>>
>
>

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:

> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Did I say that? :-)


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:

> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Did I say that? :-)


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Deck wrote:

> you trying to tell me that, after I spend over 20,000 for an automobile, I
> shouldn't skimp on oil? What a concept !:)
>

Did I say that? :-)


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Jody wrote:

> i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?

Well, now that you mention it, the quality of crude oil does vary rather
dramatically depending on where it comes from. However, the real issue
is the additive packages, how well the oil is filtered before packaging,
how clean the oil handling equipment is, how well the QA tests are done
to ensure that every batch is up to snuff, etc. Low cost producers of
many products generally have skimped somewhere along the line. This may
never cause a problem, then again it may.

Personally, I think that there are a few areas with respect to car
maintenance and repair that shouldn't be skimped on. Tires, oil, oil
filters, and brakes for example.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Jody wrote:

> i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?

Well, now that you mention it, the quality of crude oil does vary rather
dramatically depending on where it comes from. However, the real issue
is the additive packages, how well the oil is filtered before packaging,
how clean the oil handling equipment is, how well the QA tests are done
to ensure that every batch is up to snuff, etc. Low cost producers of
many products generally have skimped somewhere along the line. This may
never cause a problem, then again it may.

Personally, I think that there are a few areas with respect to car
maintenance and repair that shouldn't be skimped on. Tires, oil, oil
filters, and brakes for example.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Jody wrote:

> i guess the name brands have speacial oil wells?

Well, now that you mention it, the quality of crude oil does vary rather
dramatically depending on where it comes from. However, the real issue
is the additive packages, how well the oil is filtered before packaging,
how clean the oil handling equipment is, how well the QA tests are done
to ensure that every batch is up to snuff, etc. Low cost producers of
many products generally have skimped somewhere along the line. This may
never cause a problem, then again it may.

Personally, I think that there are a few areas with respect to car
maintenance and repair that shouldn't be skimped on. Tires, oil, oil
filters, and brakes for example.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>>Deck, so do what you wish.
>
>
>
> Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
> change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
> because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
> degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
> from Pep Boys.

I never claimed it did and specifically said above that brand name (and
labeled) products should be the same everywhere. If you really believe
that store brand products are exactly the same as brand name products
other than the label, then that is your prerogative. I know for a fact
that many industries sort products by specifications and "bin" them for
sale. The high quality products get sold under a brand name and the
lower quality get sold to folks that rebrand them. This is very common
in the electronics industry for example.


> The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
> sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.

That is the only legitimate question, I agree. However, the MSDS
doesn't tell you what is in the bottle, it tells you what is supposed to
be in the bottle. Poor QA may well mean that what is in the bottle
isn't exactly what is supposed to be in the bottle. And, yes, I
actually do consider Pennzoil and Quaker State to be the chopped liver
of oil brands. Quaker State is one of the few oil producers that
destroyed a bunch of engines due to poor QA that let bad oil get out of
their factory.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>>Deck, so do what you wish.
>
>
>
> Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
> change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
> because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
> degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
> from Pep Boys.

I never claimed it did and specifically said above that brand name (and
labeled) products should be the same everywhere. If you really believe
that store brand products are exactly the same as brand name products
other than the label, then that is your prerogative. I know for a fact
that many industries sort products by specifications and "bin" them for
sale. The high quality products get sold under a brand name and the
lower quality get sold to folks that rebrand them. This is very common
in the electronics industry for example.


> The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
> sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.

That is the only legitimate question, I agree. However, the MSDS
doesn't tell you what is in the bottle, it tells you what is supposed to
be in the bottle. Poor QA may well mean that what is in the bottle
isn't exactly what is supposed to be in the bottle. And, yes, I
actually do consider Pennzoil and Quaker State to be the chopped liver
of oil brands. Quaker State is one of the few oil producers that
destroyed a bunch of engines due to poor QA that let bad oil get out of
their factory.


Matt

Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
 

Bob Adkins wrote:

> On Mon, 27 Mar 2006 00:43:26 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>Maybe the Supertech oil is good, maybe it isn't. Most things at
>>Wal-Mart are less expensive for a reason, and that reason is that most
>>of their stuff is junk. Look at tools or most anything else and compare
>>it to real quality tools, etc. Brand name products should be the same
>>whether bought at Wally World or elsewhere, but buying generic store
>>brand stuff is a crap shoot in my opinion. However, it is your car,
>>Deck, so do what you wish.
>
>
>
> Matt, changing the label on a tool or bottle of oil does not magically
> change their properties. Wal-Mart can sell brand name products cheaper
> because they have mega-buying power, not because their label somehow
> degrades the quality. Mobil1 from Wal-Mart is the same quality as Mobil1
> from Pep Boys.

I never claimed it did and specifically said above that brand name (and
labeled) products should be the same everywhere. If you really believe
that store brand products are exactly the same as brand name products
other than the label, then that is your prerogative. I know for a fact
that many industries sort products by specifications and "bin" them for
sale. The high quality products get sold under a brand name and the
lower quality get sold to folks that rebrand them. This is very common
in the electronics industry for example.


> The only legitimate question is, what's in the SuperTech bottle? The MSDS
> sheet says Pennzoil/Quaker state. Not exactly chopped liver.

That is the only legitimate question, I agree. However, the MSDS
doesn't tell you what is in the bottle, it tells you what is supposed to
be in the bottle. Poor QA may well mean that what is in the bottle
isn't exactly what is supposed to be in the bottle. And, yes, I
actually do consider Pennzoil and Quaker State to be the chopped liver
of oil brands. Quaker State is one of the few oil producers that
destroyed a bunch of engines due to poor QA that let bad oil get out of
their factory.


Matt