synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:HNDWf.7563$lb.676974@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>> Bob Adkins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:53:53 GMT, Brian Nystrom
>>
>>
>> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And that happened how long ago? IIRC, that was something like 25 years
>>>>> ago and the problem was corrected. Have you heard of even ONE quality
>>>>> issue with modern oils?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excellent point!
>>>>
>>>> Once upon a time when we all had dark hair, there was a wide difference
>>
>>
>> in
>>
>>>> oil quality. Some was pretty good, some was bilge sludge.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst.
>>
>>
>> Almost
>>
>>>> imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>> several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>> patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>> parameter of the oil that was tested.
>>>
>>> Some oils have far better additive packages than others, and the
>>> correlation wasn't perfect with price and brand name, but it was
>>> significantly correlated.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Now that's a significant statement Matt - if it can be substantiated and
>> qualified. Can you share what kind of data you saw? What were the
>> parameters that differed and made that impression on you? How did those
>> parameters compare to standards? In other words - what were the
>> specifics?
>> Is the data you saw available for review?
>
>
> Yes, if you'll pay the $7 or whatever a back issue of MCN costs. I
> provided the reference some time ago.
Why don't you scan it and send it to us? I sent you the data I had. I
doubt that MCN is going to get worked up over a six-year-old article
being sent to a handful of people.
Hmmm, I suppose I could take a page out of your book and insinuate that
you MUST have something to hide, since you haven't produced the goods.
You MUST have gone back and re-read the article and figured out that you
were wrong. Yeah, that MUST be it!
See, it's easy to make up crap. How about producing some evidence, Matt?
> Mike Marlow wrote:
>
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> news:HNDWf.7563$lb.676974@news1.epix.net...
>>
>>> Bob Adkins wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Tue, 28 Mar 2006 21:53:53 GMT, Brian Nystrom
>>
>>
>> <brian.nystrom@verizon.net>
>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And that happened how long ago? IIRC, that was something like 25 years
>>>>> ago and the problem was corrected. Have you heard of even ONE quality
>>>>> issue with modern oils?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Excellent point!
>>>>
>>>> Once upon a time when we all had dark hair, there was a wide difference
>>
>>
>> in
>>
>>>> oil quality. Some was pretty good, some was bilge sludge.
>>>>
>>>> Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst.
>>
>>
>> Almost
>>
>>>> imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>>
>>>
>>> Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>> several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>> patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>> parameter of the oil that was tested.
>>>
>>> Some oils have far better additive packages than others, and the
>>> correlation wasn't perfect with price and brand name, but it was
>>> significantly correlated.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Now that's a significant statement Matt - if it can be substantiated and
>> qualified. Can you share what kind of data you saw? What were the
>> parameters that differed and made that impression on you? How did those
>> parameters compare to standards? In other words - what were the
>> specifics?
>> Is the data you saw available for review?
>
>
> Yes, if you'll pay the $7 or whatever a back issue of MCN costs. I
> provided the reference some time ago.
Why don't you scan it and send it to us? I sent you the data I had. I
doubt that MCN is going to get worked up over a six-year-old article
being sent to a handful of people.
Hmmm, I suppose I could take a page out of your book and insinuate that
you MUST have something to hide, since you haven't produced the goods.
You MUST have gone back and re-read the article and figured out that you
were wrong. Yeah, that MUST be it!
See, it's easy to make up crap. How about producing some evidence, Matt?
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:00:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:00:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:00:13 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
>What do you have against quality products and brand names?
A father used to say to his teenage son: Take good care of her son, and use
nothing but Esso Extra and Uniflow motor oil, and she'll last you 90,000
miles!
Now the single dad says: Dude! Take good care of your whip, m'k? Make sure
to use the right octane gas, and use oil with the right SAE service rating,
m'k? Dude! If you don't get T-boned and , that car will last you
300,000 miles!
It boils down to this Matt: We used to rely on our favorite trusted brands
to promise us that the product in the bottle was good. Now, we are more
sophisticated, and can judge for ourselves. The governing and testing bodies
stamp the rating on the bottle, and all we have to do is educate ourselves a
little and read the label.
Truth be told? I rather it the old way. But that's life, dude.
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
> On Wed, 29 Mar 2006 22:23:35 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>
>>>Now, I bet there's VERY LITTLE difference from the best to the worst. Almost
>>>imperceptible! Certainly not enough to get our shorts in a wad about.
>>
>>Sorry, but I've seen test data (from the source I've mentioned here
>>several times before - MCN) that shows the above statement to be
>>patently false. There was a wide range of data in virtually every
>>parameter of the oil that was tested.
>
>
>
> Mike, I'm going to have to call you out on that one.
>
> Since you seem to be calling me a liar, I'm asking you to show your data.
> Not only what, but more importantly WHEN the testing was done. Pre historic
> data doesn't count!
>
> Oil is blended in modern plants, with state-of-the art equipment, all
> computer controlled. There are many controls and check points, and
> everything is recorded in logs. It's been that way for 20 years. It's a very
> "settled" technology. If the button pusher or computer should glitch while
> one brand is being bottled, that brand could possibly have some defective
> bottles. One brand is just as likely to be defective as the others. The
> color of the bottle has no bearing on anything.
>
> Even if there is a breakdown of some kind, I bet buzzers and lights go off
> all over the place, and the suspect bottles are rounded up and dumped into
> the waste oil bin for re-processing. (or more likely, just dumped into
> Mobil-1 bottles). <ROFL!>
The article he's referring to is from 2000. It's in a motorcycle
magazine, which alone is enough to cast doubts about how relevent it is
to an automobile discussion.
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
> Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>from China?
Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
Bob Adkins wrote:
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
> On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:05:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>
>
>>Do you really believe that Bose stereo products are no better than the no-name brands
>
>>from China?
>
> Absolutely!!! If they sound the same, they are just as good!
And Consumer Reports sure wastes a lot of money testing products. Now
that Mr. Supertech has educated us that all products that meet a
standard are equal in "the real world" and don't have differences that
matter, I can drop my subscription and just buy the cheapest product I
can find at Wal-Mart and know that I'm getting good stuff. :-)
Matt
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:15:31 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>> Again, that's a relic of the 1950's. Ain't gonna happen!
>>
>> Even if it did happen, no oil bottler is immune to accidents.
>
>Absolutely. And a good QA/QC program is your last line of defense
>against such refinery or bottling accidents.
Being a retired QA/QC manager that fought the good fight for 35 years, yes,
I know about the last line of defense. In today's plants, there are
redundant checks, balances, and super-reliable instrumentation to prevent
those little accidents from getting out of the shop. I believe bottlers are
just too sophisticated for that to happen except on rare, freakish
occurrences.
--
Bob
>> Again, that's a relic of the 1950's. Ain't gonna happen!
>>
>> Even if it did happen, no oil bottler is immune to accidents.
>
>Absolutely. And a good QA/QC program is your last line of defense
>against such refinery or bottling accidents.
Being a retired QA/QC manager that fought the good fight for 35 years, yes,
I know about the last line of defense. In today's plants, there are
redundant checks, balances, and super-reliable instrumentation to prevent
those little accidents from getting out of the shop. I believe bottlers are
just too sophisticated for that to happen except on rare, freakish
occurrences.
--
Bob
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Re: synthetic oil for 06 Sonata V-6
On Thu, 30 Mar 2006 22:15:31 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote:
>> Again, that's a relic of the 1950's. Ain't gonna happen!
>>
>> Even if it did happen, no oil bottler is immune to accidents.
>
>Absolutely. And a good QA/QC program is your last line of defense
>against such refinery or bottling accidents.
Being a retired QA/QC manager that fought the good fight for 35 years, yes,
I know about the last line of defense. In today's plants, there are
redundant checks, balances, and super-reliable instrumentation to prevent
those little accidents from getting out of the shop. I believe bottlers are
just too sophisticated for that to happen except on rare, freakish
occurrences.
--
Bob
>> Again, that's a relic of the 1950's. Ain't gonna happen!
>>
>> Even if it did happen, no oil bottler is immune to accidents.
>
>Absolutely. And a good QA/QC program is your last line of defense
>against such refinery or bottling accidents.
Being a retired QA/QC manager that fought the good fight for 35 years, yes,
I know about the last line of defense. In today's plants, there are
redundant checks, balances, and super-reliable instrumentation to prevent
those little accidents from getting out of the shop. I believe bottlers are
just too sophisticated for that to happen except on rare, freakish
occurrences.
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Bob