Partner

I've read that some manufacturers (Chrysler for one, IIRC) program a brake
override in the computer. In case of signals from brake and accelerator, the
brake wins.
Toyota admits they do not. I wonder if Hyundai does. Anybody know for sure?
HYUNDAITECH?????

"jp103" <jpoinier110522mi@nospamcomcast.net> wrote in message
news:hjvtlh$8f8$1@news.eternal-september.org...
> On 1/29/2010 7:06 PM, Voyager wrote:
>
>>
>> Virtually all modern engines have rev limiters so this isn't a big
>> concern.
>>
>> I believe the brakes will overcome most engines, but you would have to
>> apply them very forcefully as once they become hot you could be in
>> trouble.
>>
>> It is much safer to do as Ed suggests and shift into neutral so that you
>> maintain steering and power brakes and don't risk locking the steering
>> when turning off the engine using the key.
>>
>> Matt
>
> I may have to try stopping while not taking my foot off the gas (right
> before I trade it in.
> And to think that they used to make cars without power brakes or steering.
> How did we ever manage???

Voyager

Partner wrote:
> I've read that some manufacturers (Chrysler for one, IIRC) program a
> brake override in the computer. In case of signals from brake and
> accelerator, the brake wins.
> Toyota admits they do not. I wonder if Hyundai does. Anybody know for
> sure? HYUNDAITECH?????

I had not heard that before about Chrysler, but it sure makes a lot of
sense. As I have stated previously, I have always been impressed with
Chrysler engineering, it is just their manufacturing that has long sucked.

This is similar to the difference in philosophy between Boeing and
Airbus. Boeing has long designed their airplanes to allow the pilot
full control, even to the point of stalling or overstressing the
airplane. At least this was the case up to 10 or so years ago when I
knew engineers at Boeing. It may not be the case anymore. Airbus on
the other hand, chose the philosophy of having the computers limit the
pilot's control authority so as to "protect" the airplane.

The trouble is, in some circumstances it is better to risk airframe
failure or engine failure to avoid some other certain disaster.

Matt

---MIKE---

This was picked up from the Toyota News group:

>Hyundai Motor Co. and Nissan Motor
> Co. said they have brake override
>systems.

This is good news!


---MIKE---
>>In the White Mountains of New Hampshire
>> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

hyundaitech

On Jan 29, 8:00 am, twinmount...@webtv.net (---MIKE---) wrote:
> Does my car have a "drive by wire' throttle or a cable arrangement?
>
> ---MIKE--->>In the White Mountains ofNew Hampshire
>
> >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

Cable from pedal to throttle body.

hyundaitech

On Feb 6, 12:33 pm, twinmount...@webtv.net (---MIKE---) wrote:
> This was picked up from the Toyota News group:
>
> >Hyundai Motor Co. and Nissan Motor
> > Co. said they have brake override
> >systems.
>
> This is good news!
>
> ---MIKE--->>In the White Mountains ofNew Hampshire
>
> >> (44° 15' N - Elevation 1580')

I cannot confirm (nor deny) this.