timing belt or timing chain?
I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. Thanks for your response. yat |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and rarely does
one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines (like the 3.2L and 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or so years) used a timing belt. Imports much more frequently have used a belt. It allows (supposedly) for smoother, quieter operation and better fuel economy for the set-up. But of course, any belt is a maintenance item, and since many of those engines are "interference" engines, meaning if the belt breaks, you bend or break some things in the engine (valves, etc.), you best not forget about it. Something to ponder when you are deciding which vehicle to buy. (All Santa Fe engines for sure would have timing belts). Green Valley Giant "yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:DJhyf.13$Tc.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt. > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously > considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used > timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > Thanks for your response. > > yat > > |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and rarely does
one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines (like the 3.2L and 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or so years) used a timing belt. Imports much more frequently have used a belt. It allows (supposedly) for smoother, quieter operation and better fuel economy for the set-up. But of course, any belt is a maintenance item, and since many of those engines are "interference" engines, meaning if the belt breaks, you bend or break some things in the engine (valves, etc.), you best not forget about it. Something to ponder when you are deciding which vehicle to buy. (All Santa Fe engines for sure would have timing belts). Green Valley Giant "yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:DJhyf.13$Tc.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net... >I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt. > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously > considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used > timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > Thanks for your response. > > yat > > |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
yat70458 wrote:
> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing > belt. > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am > seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new > cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > Thanks for your response. > > yat The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to me like a failure waiting to happen. http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2C76387C -- |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
yat70458 wrote:
> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing > belt. > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am > seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new > cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > Thanks for your response. > > yat The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to me like a failure waiting to happen. http://makeashorterlink.com/?Z2C76387C -- |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and > rarely does one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines > (like the 3.2L and 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or > so years) used a timing belt. I'd say most domestic V-6 and V-8 engines have timing chains, but most of the domestic I-4's, which by and large are based on foreign design, use timing belts. -- |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and > rarely does one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines > (like the 3.2L and 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or > so years) used a timing belt. I'd say most domestic V-6 and V-8 engines have timing chains, but most of the domestic I-4's, which by and large are based on foreign design, use timing belts. -- |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
"Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message news:xn0eh8ihu1kfn8f000@news.individual.net... > yat70458 wrote: > > > I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing > > belt. > > > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am > > seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new > > cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > yat > > The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. > It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to > me like a failure waiting to happen. > Not as much of an eminent failure as you might think. Variable Valve Timing (in different forms) exists in a lot of engines these days. Most manufacturers either have a form of VVT or are experimenting with it. Some of the stuff that's being toyed with is quite radical for your basic internal combustion engine. It's not inconceivable that the camshaft will become a thing of the past, giving way to the ever-present computer, which will monitor and adjust valve timing. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
"Screwtape III" <gfy@bkbusa.com> wrote in message news:xn0eh8ihu1kfn8f000@news.individual.net... > yat70458 wrote: > > > I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing > > belt. > > > > Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am > > seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new > > cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. > > > > Thanks for your response. > > > > yat > > The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. > It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to > me like a failure waiting to happen. > Not as much of an eminent failure as you might think. Variable Valve Timing (in different forms) exists in a lot of engines these days. Most manufacturers either have a form of VVT or are experimenting with it. Some of the stuff that's being toyed with is quite radical for your basic internal combustion engine. It's not inconceivable that the camshaft will become a thing of the past, giving way to the ever-present computer, which will monitor and adjust valve timing. -- -Mike- mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and rarely does > one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines (like the 3.2L and > 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or so years) used a timing > belt. > > Imports much more frequently have used a belt. It allows (supposedly) for > smoother, quieter operation and better fuel economy for the set-up. But of > course, any belt is a maintenance item, and since many of those engines are > "interference" engines, meaning if the belt breaks, you bend or break some > things in the engine (valves, etc.), you best not forget about it. > > Something to ponder when you are deciding which vehicle to buy. (All Santa > Fe engines for sure would have timing belts). My 2006 Sonata with the 2.4L engine has a timing chain, if the web site is correct. I think the new 3.3L V-6 has a chain also, but I'm less sure on that one. Matt |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> To this day, most of the domestics still use a timing chain, and rarely does > one ever think about them. A few of the DOHC engines (like the 3.2L and > 3.5L in the Dodge Intrepids of the last dozen or so years) used a timing > belt. > > Imports much more frequently have used a belt. It allows (supposedly) for > smoother, quieter operation and better fuel economy for the set-up. But of > course, any belt is a maintenance item, and since many of those engines are > "interference" engines, meaning if the belt breaks, you bend or break some > things in the engine (valves, etc.), you best not forget about it. > > Something to ponder when you are deciding which vehicle to buy. (All Santa > Fe engines for sure would have timing belts). My 2006 Sonata with the 2.4L engine has a timing chain, if the web site is correct. I think the new 3.3L V-6 has a chain also, but I'm less sure on that one. Matt |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Screwtape III wrote:
> yat70458 wrote: > > >>I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing >>belt. >> >>Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am >>seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new >>cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. >> >>Thanks for your response. >> >>yat > > > The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. > It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to > me like a failure waiting to happen. So do the new Hyundai engines. Time will tell... Matt |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
Screwtape III wrote:
> yat70458 wrote: > > >>I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing >>belt. >> >>Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am >>seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new >>cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. >> >>Thanks for your response. >> >>yat > > > The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. > It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to > me like a failure waiting to happen. So do the new Hyundai engines. Time will tell... Matt |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:01:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote: >Screwtape III wrote: > >> yat70458 wrote: >> >> >>>I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing >>>belt. >>> >>>Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am >>>seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new >>>cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. >>> >>>Thanks for your response. >>> >>>yat >> >> >> The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. >> It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to >> me like a failure waiting to happen. > >So do the new Hyundai engines. Time will tell... > >Matt And I will add that I am very pleased with the results. My new Alantra scoots much better than my Accent ever did. The VVT seems to broaden the torque curve quite a bit. nothermark |
Re: timing belt or timing chain?
On Sun, 15 Jan 2006 14:01:22 GMT, Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net>
wrote: >Screwtape III wrote: > >> yat70458 wrote: >> >> >>>I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing >>>belt. >>> >>>Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am >>>seriously considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new >>>cars nowadays used timing chains, which I heard can last forever. >>> >>>Thanks for your response. >>> >>>yat >> >> >> The Mazda 2.3 DOHC engine has a timing chain, which by itself is good. >> It also has something called "Variable Valve Timing", which sounds to >> me like a failure waiting to happen. > >So do the new Hyundai engines. Time will tell... > >Matt And I will add that I am very pleased with the results. My new Alantra scoots much better than my Accent ever did. The VVT seems to broaden the torque curve quite a bit. nothermark |
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