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hyundaitech 01-16-2006 12:37 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
You're correct, Matt. Both the '06 Sonata engines are chain driven.


hyundaitech 01-16-2006 12:41 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.


hyundaitech 01-16-2006 12:41 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.


Guncho 01-16-2006 01:22 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 

Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> Don wrote: "And then there is my Fort Taurus SHO. Timing belt placement is
> such that one the case is opened it is better to replace water pump, front
> seal, Crank sensor and a host of other stuff as the labor charge is
> monumental. Lucky it's a non-interference engine."......
>
> Actually, that is true with many vehicles, particularly the water pump.
> That is often used as the tensioner for the belt, making it something
> replaceable when you replace the belt with virtually no additional labor.
>
> But those who said timing belts are cheap need to price out some of them.
> The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper than $110 (that I can find).
> That is just the part - with labor, I have one quote for $450, and I have a
> hunch it won't get much cheaper. That is not chump change to me.
>
> Green Valley Giant


I was quoted $225 Canadian at the Oakville Hyundai dealership?

Chris


Guncho 01-16-2006 01:22 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 

Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote:
> Don wrote: "And then there is my Fort Taurus SHO. Timing belt placement is
> such that one the case is opened it is better to replace water pump, front
> seal, Crank sensor and a host of other stuff as the labor charge is
> monumental. Lucky it's a non-interference engine."......
>
> Actually, that is true with many vehicles, particularly the water pump.
> That is often used as the tensioner for the belt, making it something
> replaceable when you replace the belt with virtually no additional labor.
>
> But those who said timing belts are cheap need to price out some of them.
> The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper than $110 (that I can find).
> That is just the part - with labor, I have one quote for $450, and I have a
> hunch it won't get much cheaper. That is not chump change to me.
>
> Green Valley Giant


I was quoted $225 Canadian at the Oakville Hyundai dealership?

Chris


Mike Marlow 01-16-2006 03:09 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 

"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137430946.907376.94500@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...


> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
>


True, but timing chains seldom require replacement.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Mike Marlow 01-16-2006 03:09 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 

"Don" <w9cw@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1137430946.907376.94500@g43g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...


> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.
>


True, but timing chains seldom require replacement.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net



Matt Whiting 01-16-2006 04:28 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
Don wrote:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.


Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.

Matt

Matt Whiting 01-16-2006 04:28 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
Don wrote:
> Rev. Tom Wenndt wrote: "The Kia Sedona minivan's does not come cheaper
> than $110."
>
> The best price I've found on the Sedona timing belt is $94. Thus, it's
> more expensive than your usual timing belt parts cost. I imagine this
> is due to the V6 design, and most cost references to belts are those
> used in Inline 4 cylinders.
>
> Although $450 is a significant amount of money, it's still cheaper than
> some timing chain replacements which require the engine to be pulled
> from the vehicle. This is most often the case in some of the European
> vehicles.


Except that most timing chains (well, speaking for American engines - I
don't have experience with European designs) will last the life of the
rest of the engine. By the time the timing chain is shot, it is time
for a complete overhaul anway. My Chrysler minivan had 178,000 miles on
it when totaled and the engine was still running fine with all of its
original internal components.

Matt

Matt Whiting 01-16-2006 04:31 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
hyundaitech wrote:

> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>


I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!

Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.

Matt

Matt Whiting 01-16-2006 04:31 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
hyundaitech wrote:

> I've never done a Sedona belt, but it's the same engine as the XG, and the
> access in the Sedona looks even worse than the XG's.
>


I can't even imagine replacing the accessory drive belt on my Sonata.
It appears that the clearance between the body and the pulleys is about
1.5"! The Sonata seems to have a fair bit of room in front of and
behind the engine, but little on the pulley end of the engine. If one
had to remove a drive pully, I don't think there is even room to get a
socket on the nut or bolt. A combination wrench will fit, but it is
hard to install a nut or bolt to a given torque using a combination wrench!

Fortunately, I can now afford to hire most of my repair work done, but I
still do my own basic maintenance and enjoy doing repairs when I have
the proper tools and time.

Matt

Paul 01-16-2006 08:58 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
I have an '03 Santa Fe. I must say I love the car and have had no trouble
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.

I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
--
Paul

"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:DJhyf.13$Tc.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>




Paul 01-16-2006 08:58 PM

Re: timing belt or timing chain?
 
I have an '03 Santa Fe. I must say I love the car and have had no trouble
with it. However it just reached 60K miles so I had the timing belt and all
other belts replaced by the dealer. With tax it came out to be a little
under $500.00.

I have had the same work done on Hondas and for about $400.00 I get the
timing belt and a new water pump.
--
Paul

"yat70458" <ejleche@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:DJhyf.13$Tc.11@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
> I was reading an earlier thread about when to change out the timing belt.
>
> Please excuse my ignorance...I am not a Hyundai owner yet but am seriously
> considering the Tucson or Sante Fe. I thought most new cars nowadays used
> timing chains, which I heard can last forever.
>
> Thanks for your response.
>
> yat
>
>





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