Victor A. Garcia

Yup, like mine, it requires SPF III, please check what they put on it, if
it's Dextron, or Mercron .... get it out ASAP.

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>
> --
> Paul
>
>> Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
>> they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
> III,
>> and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
> Diamond
>> (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
>> Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
> several
>> have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
> they
>> have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
> causing
>> damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue where
>> it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
> running
>> or not.
>>
>> If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission dipstick,
> it
>> needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
>> the
>> dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
>> OK.
>>
>>
>
>

Victor A. Garcia

Yup, like mine, it requires SPF III, please check what they put on it, if
it's Dextron, or Mercron .... get it out ASAP.

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>
> --
> Paul
>
>> Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
>> they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
> III,
>> and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
> Diamond
>> (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
>> Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
> several
>> have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
> they
>> have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
> causing
>> damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue where
>> it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
> running
>> or not.
>>
>> If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission dipstick,
> it
>> needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
>> the
>> dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
>> OK.
>>
>>
>
>

Rev. Tom Wenndt

As I said in another post, a Kia regional tech rep says you should do okay
on ATF+3 fluid, and acknowledged that the distribution system to get out the
SP-III fluid has not gone as well as hoped.

Hopefully that will change, as the new fluid labeled ATF+4 comes to market.
Once you see it, THAT will be the compatible fluid, and it should be much
more common within 18-24 months.

But yes, type 'F', Mercon or Dexron is NOT considered compatible fluid by
any means.

Tom Wenndt


"Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1dIwf.7970$nT.456@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Yup, like mine, it requires SPF III, please check what they put on it, if
> it's Dextron, or Mercron .... get it out ASAP.
>
> "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
>> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>>
>>> Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
>>> they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
>> III,
>>> and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
>> Diamond
>>> (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
>>> Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
>> several
>>> have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
>> they
>>> have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
>> causing
>>> damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue
>>> where
>>> it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
>> running
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission
>>> dipstick,
>> it
>>> needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
>>> the
>>> dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Rev. Tom Wenndt

As I said in another post, a Kia regional tech rep says you should do okay
on ATF+3 fluid, and acknowledged that the distribution system to get out the
SP-III fluid has not gone as well as hoped.

Hopefully that will change, as the new fluid labeled ATF+4 comes to market.
Once you see it, THAT will be the compatible fluid, and it should be much
more common within 18-24 months.

But yes, type 'F', Mercon or Dexron is NOT considered compatible fluid by
any means.

Tom Wenndt


"Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1dIwf.7970$nT.456@tornado.tampabay.rr.com...
> Yup, like mine, it requires SPF III, please check what they put on it, if
> it's Dextron, or Mercron .... get it out ASAP.
>
> "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
>> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>>
>> --
>> Paul
>>
>>> Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
>>> they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
>> III,
>>> and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
>> Diamond
>>> (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
>>> Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
>> several
>>> have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
>> they
>>> have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
>> causing
>>> damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue
>>> where
>>> it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
>> running
>>> or not.
>>>
>>> If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission
>>> dipstick,
>> it
>>> needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
>>> the
>>> dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
>>> OK.
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Paul

OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.

There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:

Genuine Hyundai ATF
or Diamond ATF SP-III
or SK ATF SP-III.

The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:

Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.

Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?

Thanks for the help.
--
Paul

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>
> --
> Paul
>
> > Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
> > they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
> III,
> > and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
> Diamond
> > (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
> > Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
> several
> > have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
> they
> > have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
> causing
> > damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue
where
> > it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
> running
> > or not.
> >
> > If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission
dipstick,
> it
> > needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
the
> > dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
OK.
> >
> >
>
>

Paul

OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.

There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:

Genuine Hyundai ATF
or Diamond ATF SP-III
or SK ATF SP-III.

The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:

Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.

Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?

Thanks for the help.
--
Paul

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:WqHwf.1804$Jg5.558@fe12.lga...
> Thanks Bob...I will check it out. It's a 2003 Santa Fe. 2.7 liter V6
>
> --
> Paul
>
> > Very true. You don't say what year, so there's a variable. Ask them what
> > they used, and ask to see the container. If your car's dipstick says SP
> III,
> > and the container doesn't say either Hyundai SP III, Kia SK III, or
> Diamond
> > (Mitsubishi) SP III, then IT IS THE WRONG STUFF!. If it says it meets
> > Chrysler 7176 (ATF +3) it's still not the right stuff, but from what
> several
> > have said, it's pretty close, and might work OK. If it says Dexron, and
> they
> > have made it into a "compatible fluid" with a magic additive, it is
> causing
> > damage every time you drive the car. Some even say there's an issue
where
> > it's existance in the transmission is continuously causing damage -
> running
> > or not.
> >
> > If it's not SP III, and the car says SP III on the transmission
dipstick,
> it
> > needs to be removed (Flushed YESTERDAY if it's "converted" Dexron). If
the
> > dipstick (manual) says SP II, and they used 7176 (ATF +3), then you're
OK.
> >
> >
>
>

Bob

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:lSWwf.73$h_.26@fe11.lga...
> OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
> There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid
> to
> use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
> Genuine Hyundai ATF
> or Diamond ATF SP-III
> or SK ATF SP-III.
>
> The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
> Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
> Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> --
> Paul
>
Good question. It seems to be a magic, fits all fluid. It
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Qu...ssionFluid.pdf
says alot about Dexron compatibility, but nothing about "Meets SP-III specs"
It does say "Suitable in all Hyundai's", but if the Tranny goes belly up,
and it it would otherwise be covered by warranty, and they (Hyundai) knows
that's what's in there, you might have a problem. Maybe it does everything
SP-III is supposed to. Try calling Quaker State, and ask where to send a
letter to requesting a signed statement from an authorized officer of the
company something to the effect of "QSMVATF meets the requirements of
Hyundai SP-III. If a failure of your tranny occurs, and Hyundai says it's
'cause the wrong fluid was used, QS will pay for the repairs, and directly
seek reimbursment from Hyundai, blah, blah, blah." The sell sheet above says
they think it works in that transmission, and maybe it will work OK, but the
fight will be yours if something goes wrong. It is not what Hyundai has
listed.

Bob

"Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:lSWwf.73$h_.26@fe11.lga...
> OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
> There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid
> to
> use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
> Genuine Hyundai ATF
> or Diamond ATF SP-III
> or SK ATF SP-III.
>
> The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
> Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
> Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
>
> Thanks for the help.
> --
> Paul
>
Good question. It seems to be a magic, fits all fluid. It
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Qu...ssionFluid.pdf
says alot about Dexron compatibility, but nothing about "Meets SP-III specs"
It does say "Suitable in all Hyundai's", but if the Tranny goes belly up,
and it it would otherwise be covered by warranty, and they (Hyundai) knows
that's what's in there, you might have a problem. Maybe it does everything
SP-III is supposed to. Try calling Quaker State, and ask where to send a
letter to requesting a signed statement from an authorized officer of the
company something to the effect of "QSMVATF meets the requirements of
Hyundai SP-III. If a failure of your tranny occurs, and Hyundai says it's
'cause the wrong fluid was used, QS will pay for the repairs, and directly
seek reimbursment from Hyundai, blah, blah, blah." The sell sheet above says
they think it works in that transmission, and maybe it will work OK, but the
fight will be yours if something goes wrong. It is not what Hyundai has
listed.

Paul

Thanks Bob.

--
Paul

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ggXwf.56844$Lb1.11544@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:lSWwf.73$h_.26@fe11.lga...
> > OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
> >
> > There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid
> > to
> > use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
> >
> > Genuine Hyundai ATF
> > or Diamond ATF SP-III
> > or SK ATF SP-III.
> >
> > The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
> >
> > Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
> >
> > Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> Good question. It seems to be a magic, fits all fluid. It
>
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Qu...ssionFluid.pdf
> says alot about Dexron compatibility, but nothing about "Meets SP-III
specs"
> It does say "Suitable in all Hyundai's", but if the Tranny goes belly up,
> and it it would otherwise be covered by warranty, and they (Hyundai) knows
> that's what's in there, you might have a problem. Maybe it does everything
> SP-III is supposed to. Try calling Quaker State, and ask where to send a
> letter to requesting a signed statement from an authorized officer of the
> company something to the effect of "QSMVATF meets the requirements of
> Hyundai SP-III. If a failure of your tranny occurs, and Hyundai says it's
> 'cause the wrong fluid was used, QS will pay for the repairs, and directly
> seek reimbursment from Hyundai, blah, blah, blah." The sell sheet above
says
> they think it works in that transmission, and maybe it will work OK, but
the
> fight will be yours if something goes wrong. It is not what Hyundai has
> listed.
>
>

Paul

Thanks Bob.

--
Paul

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:ggXwf.56844$Lb1.11544@bignews3.bellsouth.net. ..
>
> "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:lSWwf.73$h_.26@fe11.lga...
> > OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
> >
> > There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid
> > to
> > use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
> >
> > Genuine Hyundai ATF
> > or Diamond ATF SP-III
> > or SK ATF SP-III.
> >
> > The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
> >
> > Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
> >
> > Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
> >
> > Thanks for the help.
> > --
> > Paul
> >
> Good question. It seems to be a magic, fits all fluid. It
>
http://www.pzlqs.com/Tech/Pdsheet/Qu...ssionFluid.pdf
> says alot about Dexron compatibility, but nothing about "Meets SP-III
specs"
> It does say "Suitable in all Hyundai's", but if the Tranny goes belly up,
> and it it would otherwise be covered by warranty, and they (Hyundai) knows
> that's what's in there, you might have a problem. Maybe it does everything
> SP-III is supposed to. Try calling Quaker State, and ask where to send a
> letter to requesting a signed statement from an authorized officer of the
> company something to the effect of "QSMVATF meets the requirements of
> Hyundai SP-III. If a failure of your tranny occurs, and Hyundai says it's
> 'cause the wrong fluid was used, QS will pay for the repairs, and directly
> seek reimbursment from Hyundai, blah, blah, blah." The sell sheet above
says
> they think it works in that transmission, and maybe it will work OK, but
the
> fight will be yours if something goes wrong. It is not what Hyundai has
> listed.
>
>

Matt Whiting

Paul wrote:

> OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
> There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
> use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
> Genuine Hyundai ATF
> or Diamond ATF SP-III
> or SK ATF SP-III.
>
> The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
> Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
> Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?

I don't know for sure, but I'd say you have a problem. Many of the new
transmissions are very sensitive to having the proper fluid as many,
Chryslers I know for sure, do such tricks as intentionally slipping the
lock-up clutch in the TC. For this slipping to work properly, the oil
must have a very specific amount of slipperiness. The incorrect fluid
won't have this and will cause problems, maybe not immediately, but over
time. The clutch may begin to shudder, the transmission may begin to
shift abruptly or shudder during shifts, etc.

When the maker specifies a particular fluid type, you are well advised
to follow that recommendation, especially during the warranty period.


Matt

Matt Whiting

Paul wrote:

> OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
> There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
> use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
> Genuine Hyundai ATF
> or Diamond ATF SP-III
> or SK ATF SP-III.
>
> The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
> Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
> Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?

I don't know for sure, but I'd say you have a problem. Many of the new
transmissions are very sensitive to having the proper fluid as many,
Chryslers I know for sure, do such tricks as intentionally slipping the
lock-up clutch in the TC. For this slipping to work properly, the oil
must have a very specific amount of slipperiness. The incorrect fluid
won't have this and will cause problems, maybe not immediately, but over
time. The clutch may begin to shudder, the transmission may begin to
shift abruptly or shudder during shifts, etc.

When the maker specifies a particular fluid type, you are well advised
to follow that recommendation, especially during the warranty period.


Matt

1

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:49:48 -0500, "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

>OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
>There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
>use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
>Genuine Hyundai ATF
>or Diamond ATF SP-III
>or SK ATF SP-III.
>
>The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
>Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
>Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
>
>Thanks for the help.

It's possible you could have a problem or you might have none. But
when you are talking about a $2000 risk it's really up to you. I
bought my car used and the dealer had just done a flush with Penzoil
multi-something or another. I found out about strictly using SPIII a
few months later, so I contacted the dealer and griped about it and
they told me Penzoil will guarantee it's fluid. So i'm stuck going to
that same dealer to have my flushes done, just in case there is a
problem. So far it's been nearly a year and i've had no problems but
better safe than sorry.

1

On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 17:49:48 -0500, "Paul" <me@yahoo.com> wrote:

>OK Here is what I have learned about my automatic transmission.
>
>There is nothing on the dipstick saying anything about the type of fluid to
>use. My owners manual says that I can use either one of the following:
>
>Genuine Hyundai ATF
>or Diamond ATF SP-III
>or SK ATF SP-III.
>
>The stuff used by the independent who changed my transmission oil used:
>
>Quaker State Muti-Vehicle ATF.
>
>Is this close enough to the Genuine Hyundai ATF or do I have a problem ?
>
>Thanks for the help.

It's possible you could have a problem or you might have none. But
when you are talking about a $2000 risk it's really up to you. I
bought my car used and the dealer had just done a flush with Penzoil
multi-something or another. I found out about strictly using SPIII a
few months later, so I contacted the dealer and griped about it and
they told me Penzoil will guarantee it's fluid. So i'm stuck going to
that same dealer to have my flushes done, just in case there is a
problem. So far it's been nearly a year and i've had no problems but
better safe than sorry.

Jim Wasiura

I had my 2002 Sonata back to the dealer 5 times for hesitation at
start and in 3rd and fouth gear. They change parts and they said they
changed the transmission. The car still hesitated and bucked. This car had
29000 miles on it and I had it in every 3mo for service. Needless to say the
car is gone and I am the proud owner of a Liberty 4 by 4. Never will I buy
and Hyundai Product. The service manager assured me they drove 40 miles with
no problem. I pulled out of the lot same thing. Why do they always lie. Keep
you Hyundai s mine is gone.