marks4q2@webtv.net

first off i purchased the extended warranty to have a bumper to bumper
warranty.
in order to be sure there would be no dealer/factory warranty issues
during the 10/100,000 warranty i pay them their pound of flesh, buy the
factory recommended oil and filter from them and self install to save
money.
my 2001 accent has had its share of misery but when they accused me
of not following their pricey scheduled maintenance(engine tappets went
bad @40k miles) i shoved my dealer purchased receipts
under their noses to prove them wrong.
my only exception to dealer bought is i use "mobil one" synthetic
engine oil.
they even tried to tell me thats no good for hyundai engines.

marks4q2@webtv.net

first off i purchased the extended warranty to have a bumper to bumper
warranty.
in order to be sure there would be no dealer/factory warranty issues
during the 10/100,000 warranty i pay them their pound of flesh, buy the
factory recommended oil and filter from them and self install to save
money.
my 2001 accent has had its share of misery but when they accused me
of not following their pricey scheduled maintenance(engine tappets went
bad @40k miles) i shoved my dealer purchased receipts
under their noses to prove them wrong.
my only exception to dealer bought is i use "mobil one" synthetic
engine oil.
they even tried to tell me thats no good for hyundai engines.

Bob

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:832ff$43b99a4d$452894b3$9501@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:SCduf.30591$dZ1.28967@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>>
>> <Diarmud387@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> news:1136217874.962789.306470@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> > New car, why take a chance on the warranty? Also from experience,
>> > there is a difference between tranny fluids.
>> >
>> > Stick with OEM stuff to keep the warranty good. It's like oil and
>> > filters. There IS a difference.
>
> To Diarmud387 - Car manufacturers do not make tranny fluids or motor oils.
> Nor do they manufacturer filters. Stick with the standards they specify
> and
> you'll be all right. At the level of the standards, tranny fluid is
> tranny
> fluid, motor oil is motor oil, etc. Sure there are different grades above
> the standards and they are not a bad option for those who want an extra
> measure of security, but there is no such thing as Ford Tranny Fluid, or
> GM
> Tranny Fluid, or Hyundai Tranny Fluid. What they sell in their private
> label containers for inflated prices is the same stuff you can buy in the
> aftermarket. Just be sure to know the specification of the fluid. It's
> illegal for the auto manufacturer to hold your warranty hostage to using
> their private label fluids. They can only hold you to the specified
> standard.

But, there's NO aftermarket SP-III fluid. Just like there's no aftermarket
Chrysler ATF +4 fluid.
[Fireproof suite mode ON] Amsoil's web site says: "AMSOIL ATF is recommended
for transmission, hydraulic and other applications requiring any of the
following specifications:"
a.. Chrysler ATF+ through ATF+4®
a.. Mitsubishi/Hyundai Diamond SP II & III
+ many others....
This should not be confused to mean "Meets SP-III specifications"

Royal Purple's site says "no RP equivalent" for Hyundai and Chrysler.

BG's site says "BG Universal Synthetic ATF is the superior choice to use in
all passenger and commercial automatic transmissions." This is the magic
stuff that the dealer uses in Hyundai ATM's

[Fireproof suite mode OFF]



Good luck.
>>
>> Mine doesn't need any yet. I'm just looking forward to the point where I
>> will be changing it - part of it anyway. The point to me bringing this up
> is
>> the fact that the dealer - a Hyundai dealer - I bought the car from DOES
> NOT
>> use the SP III fluid when they do a transmission service. They use BG
>> universal synthetic fluid. I suppose if the tranny burns up under
> warranty,
>> they'll just point to the records saying that they did a fluid change at
>> X
>> miles. No accountability as to what they changed it with.
>
> You're probably right, for the very reasons I stated above to the previous
> poster. Look at your Hyundai warranty - does it specifically state that
> you
> must use Hyundai Transmission Fluid, or does it specify a standard? To be
> honest I have not looked at mine, but it would really surprise me if they
> tried to force their private label on consumers.

It looks like they are forcing the use of theirs only..... Not a word about
compatible. Who'd like to try a Magnuson Moss claim?

From TSB 03-40-019:

USE OF NON-APPROVED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUIDS:

Only Hyundai SPIII is approved for use in Hyundai vehicles beginning with
the 1996 model year. Use of aftermarket additives or other types of ATF,
such as Chrysler/Mopar ATF+3, Dexron and Mercon, are not approved for use in
Hyundai vehicles and may affect driveability or damage the transaxle. Damage
caused by a non-specified fluid is not covered by your new vehicle limited
warranty.


<The tranny fluid changeprocedure>

> Here's my twist on what you describe above...
>


Hey, It's in the manual as THE procedure. Unfortunately, there's no "install
new filter, clean the pan to remove filings, etc., replace the filter and
close it up" because there's no way to get at the filter as it's under the
valve body. Much dissasembly required. In fact, dealers can't even open up
the transmission according to Hyundai! Also, the "pan" is vertical.

Bob

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in message
news:832ff$43b99a4d$452894b3$9501@ALLTEL.NET...
>
> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
> news:SCduf.30591$dZ1.28967@bignews2.bellsouth.net. ..
>>
>> <Diarmud387@adelphia.net> wrote in message
>> news:1136217874.962789.306470@z14g2000cwz.googlegr oups.com...
>> > New car, why take a chance on the warranty? Also from experience,
>> > there is a difference between tranny fluids.
>> >
>> > Stick with OEM stuff to keep the warranty good. It's like oil and
>> > filters. There IS a difference.
>
> To Diarmud387 - Car manufacturers do not make tranny fluids or motor oils.
> Nor do they manufacturer filters. Stick with the standards they specify
> and
> you'll be all right. At the level of the standards, tranny fluid is
> tranny
> fluid, motor oil is motor oil, etc. Sure there are different grades above
> the standards and they are not a bad option for those who want an extra
> measure of security, but there is no such thing as Ford Tranny Fluid, or
> GM
> Tranny Fluid, or Hyundai Tranny Fluid. What they sell in their private
> label containers for inflated prices is the same stuff you can buy in the
> aftermarket. Just be sure to know the specification of the fluid. It's
> illegal for the auto manufacturer to hold your warranty hostage to using
> their private label fluids. They can only hold you to the specified
> standard.

But, there's NO aftermarket SP-III fluid. Just like there's no aftermarket
Chrysler ATF +4 fluid.
[Fireproof suite mode ON] Amsoil's web site says: "AMSOIL ATF is recommended
for transmission, hydraulic and other applications requiring any of the
following specifications:"
a.. Chrysler ATF+ through ATF+4®
a.. Mitsubishi/Hyundai Diamond SP II & III
+ many others....
This should not be confused to mean "Meets SP-III specifications"

Royal Purple's site says "no RP equivalent" for Hyundai and Chrysler.

BG's site says "BG Universal Synthetic ATF is the superior choice to use in
all passenger and commercial automatic transmissions." This is the magic
stuff that the dealer uses in Hyundai ATM's

[Fireproof suite mode OFF]



Good luck.
>>
>> Mine doesn't need any yet. I'm just looking forward to the point where I
>> will be changing it - part of it anyway. The point to me bringing this up
> is
>> the fact that the dealer - a Hyundai dealer - I bought the car from DOES
> NOT
>> use the SP III fluid when they do a transmission service. They use BG
>> universal synthetic fluid. I suppose if the tranny burns up under
> warranty,
>> they'll just point to the records saying that they did a fluid change at
>> X
>> miles. No accountability as to what they changed it with.
>
> You're probably right, for the very reasons I stated above to the previous
> poster. Look at your Hyundai warranty - does it specifically state that
> you
> must use Hyundai Transmission Fluid, or does it specify a standard? To be
> honest I have not looked at mine, but it would really surprise me if they
> tried to force their private label on consumers.

It looks like they are forcing the use of theirs only..... Not a word about
compatible. Who'd like to try a Magnuson Moss claim?

From TSB 03-40-019:

USE OF NON-APPROVED AUTOMATIC TRANSMISSION FLUIDS:

Only Hyundai SPIII is approved for use in Hyundai vehicles beginning with
the 1996 model year. Use of aftermarket additives or other types of ATF,
such as Chrysler/Mopar ATF+3, Dexron and Mercon, are not approved for use in
Hyundai vehicles and may affect driveability or damage the transaxle. Damage
caused by a non-specified fluid is not covered by your new vehicle limited
warranty.


<The tranny fluid changeprocedure>

> Here's my twist on what you describe above...
>


Hey, It's in the manual as THE procedure. Unfortunately, there's no "install
new filter, clean the pan to remove filings, etc., replace the filter and
close it up" because there's no way to get at the filter as it's under the
valve body. Much dissasembly required. In fact, dealers can't even open up
the transmission according to Hyundai! Also, the "pan" is vertical.

Victor A. Garcia

ATF +3 was what the dealer used to change my wife Elantra 2002 tram, my
Santa Fe 2003 also called for SPIII, so I toped both with ATF-3+, so far so
good, if the dealer used it for the whole tram, why I cannot used it for
refilling ???
Both cars call for SPIII.


"Larry" <lspea@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:n9udnafP3b9mAyXeRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> so are you saying the in hyundia's you can use chrysler fluid atf+3 which
> is
> the same as the older chryslers fluid 7136 and the atf+4 which is used in
> the
> 2000+ chryslers In hyundia's products which call for sp111 fluid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Transmission fluid in Hyundais
>
>
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ejrtf.56939$8d.41171@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Victor A. Garcia

ATF +3 was what the dealer used to change my wife Elantra 2002 tram, my
Santa Fe 2003 also called for SPIII, so I toped both with ATF-3+, so far so
good, if the dealer used it for the whole tram, why I cannot used it for
refilling ???
Both cars call for SPIII.


"Larry" <lspea@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:n9udnafP3b9mAyXeRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> so are you saying the in hyundia's you can use chrysler fluid atf+3 which
> is
> the same as the older chryslers fluid 7136 and the atf+4 which is used in
> the
> 2000+ chryslers In hyundia's products which call for sp111 fluid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Transmission fluid in Hyundais
>
>
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ejrtf.56939$8d.41171@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Mike Marlow

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3oluf.19113$3I3.9944@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .

>
> Hey, It's in the manual as THE procedure. Unfortunately, there's no
"install
> new filter, clean the pan to remove filings, etc., replace the filter and
> close it up" because there's no way to get at the filter as it's under the
> valve body. Much dissasembly required. In fact, dealers can't even open up
> the transmission according to Hyundai! Also, the "pan" is vertical.
>

So - it's just a drain process like the motor oil? Sheeze! Easy, but not
horribly reassuring. What are the histories of these trannies? Are they
holding up for a couple hundred thousand miles?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:3oluf.19113$3I3.9944@bignews5.bellsouth.net.. .

>
> Hey, It's in the manual as THE procedure. Unfortunately, there's no
"install
> new filter, clean the pan to remove filings, etc., replace the filter and
> close it up" because there's no way to get at the filter as it's under the
> valve body. Much dissasembly required. In fact, dealers can't even open up
> the transmission according to Hyundai! Also, the "pan" is vertical.
>

So - it's just a drain process like the motor oil? Sheeze! Easy, but not
horribly reassuring. What are the histories of these trannies? Are they
holding up for a couple hundred thousand miles?

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Jody

maybye the newer models are different but everyone i know of with a auto
hyundai it recommends the hyun/diamondspec fluid.
if it was me and i had a automatic id go for the hyun oil.
saving 35.00 over a few years vs 1000's for transmission repair seems
futile..
"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed that
>they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission fluid. The
>box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I asked, and was
>told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new Hyundai
>transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a quart
>specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be so
>different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>

Jody

maybye the newer models are different but everyone i know of with a auto
hyundai it recommends the hyun/diamondspec fluid.
if it was me and i had a automatic id go for the hyun oil.
saving 35.00 over a few years vs 1000's for transmission repair seems
futile..
"Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed that
>they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission fluid. The
>box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I asked, and was
>told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new Hyundai
>transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a quart
>specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be so
>different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>

Matt Whiting

Victor A. Garcia wrote:
> ATF +3 was what the dealer used to change my wife Elantra 2002 tram, my
> Santa Fe 2003 also called for SPIII, so I toped both with ATF-3+, so far so
> good, if the dealer used it for the whole tram, why I cannot used it for
> refilling ???

How do you fit a tram in your car? Where do you affix the cables?


Matt

Matt Whiting

Victor A. Garcia wrote:
> ATF +3 was what the dealer used to change my wife Elantra 2002 tram, my
> Santa Fe 2003 also called for SPIII, so I toped both with ATF-3+, so far so
> good, if the dealer used it for the whole tram, why I cannot used it for
> refilling ???

How do you fit a tram in your car? Where do you affix the cables?


Matt

Rev. Tom Wenndt

I have read all the posts about the transmission fluid.

I talked to a regional representative who works with the tranny people at
both Hyundai and Kia. He told me the following:

*There has not been one reported failure of a transmission due to fluid for
anyone who has used ATF+3 (Chrysler-Mitsubishi-Hyundai specified) as a
replacement for SP-III. It can be considered to be a very good substitute,
especially since (he admits) the distribution for SPIII has not gone like
they had hoped. Type F and the various Dexron's are NOT a good substitute.

*That universal synthetic used by the dealership's is an excellent fluid,
but expensive and hard-to-get for the regular consumer; same with the new
ATF+4, though they expect that to change in auto parts stores and more,
given 18-24 months.

*The 5-speed transmission mated to various Hyundai-Kia vehicles (like the
XG-350, the Sedona minivan and the new V-6 Sonata) has been a very good
transmission, and the new 4-speeds being placed into the cars as they are
being re-designed (both the smaller ones in cars like the Accent and the
bigger ones in cars like in the 4-cylinder Sonata) have been tested to show
that they may end up being some of the finest in the industry.

Hope this helps.

Thomas Wenndt


"Larry" <lspea@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:n9udnafP3b9mAyXeRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> so are you saying the in hyundia's you can use chrysler fluid atf+3 which
> is
> the same as the older chryslers fluid 7136 and the atf+4 which is used in
> the
> 2000+ chryslers In hyundia's products which call for sp111 fluid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Transmission fluid in Hyundais
>
>
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ejrtf.56939$8d.41171@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

Rev. Tom Wenndt

I have read all the posts about the transmission fluid.

I talked to a regional representative who works with the tranny people at
both Hyundai and Kia. He told me the following:

*There has not been one reported failure of a transmission due to fluid for
anyone who has used ATF+3 (Chrysler-Mitsubishi-Hyundai specified) as a
replacement for SP-III. It can be considered to be a very good substitute,
especially since (he admits) the distribution for SPIII has not gone like
they had hoped. Type F and the various Dexron's are NOT a good substitute.

*That universal synthetic used by the dealership's is an excellent fluid,
but expensive and hard-to-get for the regular consumer; same with the new
ATF+4, though they expect that to change in auto parts stores and more,
given 18-24 months.

*The 5-speed transmission mated to various Hyundai-Kia vehicles (like the
XG-350, the Sedona minivan and the new V-6 Sonata) has been a very good
transmission, and the new 4-speeds being placed into the cars as they are
being re-designed (both the smaller ones in cars like the Accent and the
bigger ones in cars like in the 4-cylinder Sonata) have been tested to show
that they may end up being some of the finest in the industry.

Hope this helps.

Thomas Wenndt


"Larry" <lspea@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:n9udnafP3b9mAyXeRVn-qw@comcast.com...
> so are you saying the in hyundia's you can use chrysler fluid atf+3 which
> is
> the same as the older chryslers fluid 7136 and the atf+4 which is used in
> the
> 2000+ chryslers In hyundia's products which call for sp111 fluid
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com>
> Newsgroups: alt.autos.hyundai
> Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 12:28 AM
> Subject: Re: Transmission fluid in Hyundais
>
>
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
> "Victor A. Garcia" <vgarcia1@tampabay.rr.com> wrote in message
> news:ejrtf.56939$8d.41171@tornado.tampabay.rr.com. ..
>> Hint:
>> Look at your local AutoParts store for: ATF-3, or ATF-3plus, it's
>> available at normal prices.
>> It's also used in Misutbishi and Crysler trams.
>>
>> DO NOT use Mercrom-III or Dextron-III, not compatible at all.
>>
>> "Bob" <bobsjunkmail@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
>> news:CMntf.32127$wq.2817@bignews7.bellsouth.net...
>>>I noticed in the manual for my '06 Sonata that the transmission is only
>>>supposed to be fed some sort of proprietary SP III fluid. I was at the
>>>dealer today for a headlight issue. While wandering around, I noticed
>>>that they had boxes - kind of like those wine boxes - of transmission
>>>fluid. The box said "BG Universal Synthetic ATF" part number 3123. I
>>>asked, and was told that that fluid is what is used by them in the new
>>>Hyundai transmissions. That said, I guess the requirement for the $8.00 a
>>>quart specially blessed fluid is non-existent. After all, what would be
>>>so different about one brand of synthetic fluid, and another?
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

hyundaitech

I believe it's already been established that because of the proprietary
nature of many new transmission fluids that the manufacturer can require
you to use one of those fluids and not be in violation of Magnuson-Moss.

I also believe you should demand your dealer use ONLY Hyundai SPIII in
your vehicle.

These so-called good-for-everything fluids are very dubious in my opinion.
Different fluid specifications require different friction and viscosity
properties.

I work at a dealer which has both Dodge and Hyundai and have yet to be
able to confirm whether ATF+4 is equivalent to SPIII, although I think
there's a reasonable possibility this may be so. There were some problems
here because we used good-for-everything fluid in some Chrysler
transmissions. They later developed some problems, I believe mostly with
the torque converter clutch system.