In virtually every parking lot, you find half the cars Asian make
I was reflecting on this fact the other day , and recall how Americans
at one time would turn up their noses at something that was 'Made in Japan' as cheap and inferior ; my, how times have changed. Now we have the top 3 U.S. Car Makers pleading for a financial bailout because Americans dont have confidence in the reliability of American cars any longer/the value is not where it should be. Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. |
Re: In virtually every parking lot, you find half the cars Asian make
<IlBeBauck@gmail.com> wrote in message > > Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day > give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take > specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. I was a GM buyer for many years until my last Buick. I also used to laugh at people that bought Hyundai based on the original cars they imported in 1988. GM got me PO'd with my last car. When I started thinking about buying something new, two people I knew had a rented Sonata on a trip and they were impressed with it. I decided to take a look as I did like the Sonata styling. I ended up buying a Sonata Limited. It has pretty much every feature that the Lucerne I was also considering has. I can see minor differences in quality of materials on the dashboard, carpeting, and so forth. The Sonata though, has Stability Control, all the goodies like heated seats, electrochromatic mirror, heated outside mirrors, powerful engine and things of that sort. What the Sonata did lack was about $8000 in the price tag. Will I ever go back? Sure, it they can offer me the same value. I really wanted a Lamborghini, but I heard that they are not so good in the snow so I passed on it. |
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IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote:
> I was reflecting on this fact the other day , and recall how Americans > at one time would turn up their noses at something that was 'Made in > Japan' as cheap and inferior ; my, how times have changed. Now we > have the top 3 U.S. Car Makers pleading for a financial bailout > because Americans dont have confidence in the reliability of American > cars any longer/the value is not where it should be. > > Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day > give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take > specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. That is because at one time things made in Japan WERE cheap and inferior. I'm not sold on any make of car. All manufacturers come and go with regard to quality, design, etc., and what is good today may not be good tomorrow. Oddly as it seems today, the cars I've had that have lasted the longest mileage-wise have all been Chryslers, an Acclaim (146K before a deer totaled it), a Jeep Comanche (150K before it succumbed to rust after nearly 20 years) and a Grand Voyager (182K before a drunk totaled it). My current Grand Caravan is gaining fast at 110K and my Chevy truck is doing well at 108K, but is my oldest vehicle by far at 15 years. It will rust out before it wears out as I drive it mainly in the winter as a snow plow vehicle and in the PA/NY area the road salt is incredible. My Sonata is doing well, but at less than 50K miles I can't speak to its durability. I will say that initial indications aren't great as the rear rotors are shot already. My truck still has its originals!! I fear the Sonata may be like my 84 Accord and being to self-destruct at 60K miles, but I'm still hoping for the best. However, to me a car hasn't even begun to earn its keep until it rolls past 100K miles. I will consider Hyundai for my next minivan or car, but mainly because I find the new Chrylser minivans to be butt ugly. However, even if Hyundai made a full-size truck, I'll still buy a Chevy next ... assuming GM is still in business. After the performance of my 94 K1500, this isn't even a point of question. Matt |
Re: In virtually every parking lot, you find half the cars Asian make
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 04:29:44 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
<IlBeBauck@gmail.com> wrote: >I was reflecting on this fact the other day , and recall how Americans >at one time would turn up their noses at something that was 'Made in >Japan' as cheap and inferior ; my, how times have changed. Now we >have the top 3 U.S. Car Makers pleading for a financial bailout >because Americans dont have confidence in the reliability of American >cars any longer/the value is not where it should be. > >Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day >give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take >specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. One very important factor in Hyundai convincing first time buyers was the outstanding warranty offered. When compared with the 36,000 mile/ 3 year warranty common among US makes one has to ask. Why are they not willing to offer a longer warranty. Another item that caught my attention is the number of what are extras on many other makes coming standard on the Hyundai. I bought a 2000 Sonata V6 new in April 2000 and has never had any buyer's remorse. It has been an extremely reliable car. The water pump went out at 61,000 miles and it was replaced under the warranty. At first the dealer was balking at doing this repair as warranty work. I contacted Hyundai USA and told them what the dealer was doing. Then the dealer contacted me and said that they would do the water pump and asked me if I wanted to pay the parts price only to have the timing belt replaced at the same time. I told them that considering the hassle I had initially I was not going to have the belt replaced since in California the timing belt replacement was NOT on the required service list and would be covered under the 10 year/ 100000 mile provision even if it failed and trashed the engine. When I got the car back the dealer had replaced the timing belt as a Good Will extra with no charge service. I did not even pay for the belt itself. They also replaced the serpentine belt at no charge. That kind of service is hard to find. Joe Posted Via Usenet.com Premium Usenet Newsgroup Services ---------------------------------------------------------- http://www.usenet.com |
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Voyager wrote:
> IlBeBauck@gmail.com wrote: >> Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day >> give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take >> specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. I would. In fact I'm considering a new GMC Sierra pickup. Current price is a factor and my commute has decreased drastically over the last 10 years. > I'm not sold on any make of car. All manufacturers come and go with > regard to quality, design, etc., and what is good today may not be good > tomorrow. Oddly as it seems today, the cars I've had that have lasted > the longest mileage-wise have all been Chryslers, an Acclaim (146K > before a deer totaled it), a Jeep Comanche (150K before it succumbed to > rust after nearly 20 years) and a Grand Voyager (182K before a drunk > totaled it). My current Grand Caravan is gaining fast at 110K and my > Chevy truck is doing well at 108K, but is my oldest vehicle by far at 15 > years. It will rust out before it wears out as I drive it mainly in the > winter as a snow plow vehicle and in the PA/NY area the road salt is I put 240K on an '88 Jeep Wagoneer before giving it away to a charity. I rebuilt the tranny at 160K. I have close to 500K on my '79 Ford F100. Albeit I rebuilt the motor and tranny each once in the F100, I'm still drive it daily the 5-6 miles to work. One of the kids is driving an '87 Camry we gave him that is at 95K, bought from an old gal who never drove much. Other kid is driving a '93 Festiva w/ 100K on it. There's been other cars I've owned over the years, some good, some not so good but I truly believe that routine service is the key to longevity. In fact I've proven the value of routinely servicing my vehicles including motorcycles since my first car in '67 which was an indestructible '55 Chevy 2 door hard-top. > My Sonata is doing well, but at less than 50K miles I can't speak to its > durability. Same here w/ a 2009 Sonata Ltd. First time Hyundai buyer and it seems to be a very decent car - so far. It's the wife's daily driver. |
Re: In virtually every parking lot, you find half the cars Asian make
On Fri, 9 Jan 2009 04:29:44 -0800 (PST), "IlBeBauck@gmail.com"
<IlBeBauck@gmail.com> wrote: >I was reflecting on this fact the other day , and recall how Americans >at one time would turn up their noses at something that was 'Made in >Japan' as cheap and inferior ; my, how times have changed. Now we >have the top 3 U.S. Car Makers pleading for a financial bailout >because Americans dont have confidence in the reliability of American >cars any longer/the value is not where it should be. > >Im wondering if those of us who are now sold on Hyundai , will one day >give The Big 3 another chance , and...what would it take >specifically before making the switch back ? Thanks. 1. Just bought a Ford P/U - Hyundai not available here if they make one. Assuming equal fit, finish, price and available features I would buy American. I won't buy an automatic transmission, satellite radio or a foreign made vehicle with a big 3 badge. |
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On Jan 10, 10:39 am, Mark Time <m...@home.org> wrote:
> One of the kids is driving an '87 > Camry.... One of the best cars ever made, in my opinion. |
Re: In virtually every parking lot, you find half the cars Asianmake
hyundaimech@gmail.com wrote:
> On Jan 10, 10:39 am, Mark Time <m...@home.org> wrote: >> One of the kids is driving an '87 >> Camry.... > > One of the best cars ever made, in my opinion. Yes and it was a great deal. Original owner had it for 20 years before I got in w/ 70K on it and for $1500 in '07. Wife used it for her daily freeway commute. Kid needed a car, so we got to looking at '08 Camrys. We stopped at the Hyundai dealer and she fell in love w/ the '09 Sonata Ltd. LOL I got the deal I wanted. The kid's not on the freeway much, mostly surface streets w/ school and job but having no air bag is a bit dicey IMHO. |
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On Jan 11, 5:04 am, Mark Time <m...@home.org> wrote:
> hyundaim...@gmail.com wrote: > > On Jan 10, 10:39 am, Mark Time <m...@home.org> wrote: > >> One of the kids is driving an '87 > >> Camry.... > > > One of the best cars ever made, in my opinion. > > Yes and it was a great deal. Original owner had it for 20 years before > I got in w/ 70K on it and for $1500 in '07. Wife used it for her daily > freeway commute. Kid needed a car, so we got to looking at '08 Camrys. > We stopped at the Hyundai dealer and she fell in love w/ the '09 Sonata > Ltd. LOL I got the deal I wanted. The kid's not on the freeway much, > mostly surface streets w/ school and job but having no air bag is a bit > dicey IMHO. I think the Corporate philosophy is different between America and Asia . In addition, I think Workers pride is higher in Asia and they dont have the 'entitlement' attitude that everybody owes them . Attitudes of people come out in the quality of work all the time. |
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