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Guncho 01-17-2006 12:07 PM

Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
For $321 Canadian I'm getting :

1 Timing Belt replaced
2 New Air Filter
3 New Spark Plugs
4 Minor tuneup

I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?

Chris


Bain 01-17-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>
> 1 Timing Belt replaced
> 2 New Air Filter
> 3 New Spark Plugs
> 4 Minor tuneup
>
> I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
>
> Chris
>




Bain 01-17-2006 01:25 PM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers

"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>
> 1 Timing Belt replaced
> 2 New Air Filter
> 3 New Spark Plugs
> 4 Minor tuneup
>
> I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
>
> Chris
>




Guncho 01-17-2006 02:47 PM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 

Bain wrote:
> what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
>
> "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
> >
> > 1 Timing Belt replaced
> > 2 New Air Filter
> > 3 New Spark Plugs
> > 4 Minor tuneup
> >
> > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
> >
> > Chris
> >


1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k

Chris


Guncho 01-17-2006 02:47 PM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 

Bain wrote:
> what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
>
> "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
> >
> > 1 Timing Belt replaced
> > 2 New Air Filter
> > 3 New Spark Plugs
> > 4 Minor tuneup
> >
> > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
> >
> > Chris
> >


1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k

Chris


Brian Nystrom 01-18-2006 08:23 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Guncho wrote:
> For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>
> 1 Timing Belt replaced
> 2 New Air Filter
> 3 New Spark Plugs
> 4 Minor tuneup
>
> I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?


They're not "supposed" to be anything, other than competent. I've found
my local dealer's service prices to be very competitive with local
independent garages. It's all a matter of dealership philosophy and what
your local market will bear.

Brian Nystrom 01-18-2006 08:23 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Guncho wrote:
> For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>
> 1 Timing Belt replaced
> 2 New Air Filter
> 3 New Spark Plugs
> 4 Minor tuneup
>
> I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?


They're not "supposed" to be anything, other than competent. I've found
my local dealer's service prices to be very competitive with local
independent garages. It's all a matter of dealership philosophy and what
your local market will bear.

Robert Cohen 01-18-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
re: Hyundai servicing prices

Very interesting.

I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the Atlanta area.

And that Canuck $ looney-tuney is valued less than the U.S. $ buck
too.

I wonder if it would pay me to come up there from Georgia to buy a new
truck or car instead of playing/suckering into bait 'n switch
games/tactics at local dealerships?

DoCanadian new vehicle prices seem to run less (how much less?)?

If they are less tres cher up (expensive) there, then why (makes no
damned "cents" )?


Robert Cohen 01-18-2006 10:00 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
re: Hyundai servicing prices

Very interesting.

I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the Atlanta area.

And that Canuck $ looney-tuney is valued less than the U.S. $ buck
too.

I wonder if it would pay me to come up there from Georgia to buy a new
truck or car instead of playing/suckering into bait 'n switch
games/tactics at local dealerships?

DoCanadian new vehicle prices seem to run less (how much less?)?

If they are less tres cher up (expensive) there, then why (makes no
damned "cents" )?


John W 01-18-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: Hyundai servicing prices
>
> Very interesting.
>
> I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the Atlanta area.
>
> And that Canuck $ looney-tuney is valued less than the U.S. $ buck
> too.
>
> I wonder if it would pay me to come up there from Georgia to buy a new
> truck or car instead of playing/suckering into bait 'n switch
> games/tactics at local dealerships?
>
> DoCanadian new vehicle prices seem to run less (how much less?)?
>
> If they are less tres cher up (expensive) there, then why (makes no
> damned "cents" )?
>


Despite Canadian currency being worth less ($1CAD=0.85c US right now),
vehicle prices are inflated a bit up there. It's actually cheaper to get
an equivalent new car in the US! Canadians pay a lot more taxes so I
think that makes up the bulk of the price differences.

John W 01-18-2006 10:14 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Robert Cohen wrote:
> re: Hyundai servicing prices
>
> Very interesting.
>
> I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the Atlanta area.
>
> And that Canuck $ looney-tuney is valued less than the U.S. $ buck
> too.
>
> I wonder if it would pay me to come up there from Georgia to buy a new
> truck or car instead of playing/suckering into bait 'n switch
> games/tactics at local dealerships?
>
> DoCanadian new vehicle prices seem to run less (how much less?)?
>
> If they are less tres cher up (expensive) there, then why (makes no
> damned "cents" )?
>


Despite Canadian currency being worth less ($1CAD=0.85c US right now),
vehicle prices are inflated a bit up there. It's actually cheaper to get
an equivalent new car in the US! Canadians pay a lot more taxes so I
think that makes up the bulk of the price differences.

Rev. Tom Wenndt 01-18-2006 11:50 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Robert Cohen said: "Very interesting. I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the
Atlanta area."......

Actually, I'm not surprised. A lot of dealers like to put on "standard"
prices, I suspect at least in part so they can post them on a sign. Most of
the time, they are inflated.

Most of the area dealers in the big city near me do this, including a Kia
dealer whose standard price for the services listed by this Canadian
individual was $1200 for my Sedona. Another out-of-the-area dealer quoted
me $850, then told me why.

I fully believe that the work mentioned for a 4-cylinder engine is not worth
one dime more than he paid. Spark plugs are EXTREMELY easy to get to in
most of them, the air filter is always easy, and the timing belt is usually
very easy to access.

A V6 is a completely different baby, with three spark plugs in the back of
the engine, a timing belt that gumby usually couldn't access in a tight
engine compartment and more.

That alone may be reason to consider a 4 over a 6.

Tom Wenndt



Rev. Tom Wenndt 01-18-2006 11:50 AM

Re: Why Is The Dealership So Cheap?
 
Robert Cohen said: "Very interesting. I think $600 USD is s.o.p. in the
Atlanta area."......

Actually, I'm not surprised. A lot of dealers like to put on "standard"
prices, I suspect at least in part so they can post them on a sign. Most of
the time, they are inflated.

Most of the area dealers in the big city near me do this, including a Kia
dealer whose standard price for the services listed by this Canadian
individual was $1200 for my Sedona. Another out-of-the-area dealer quoted
me $850, then told me why.

I fully believe that the work mentioned for a 4-cylinder engine is not worth
one dime more than he paid. Spark plugs are EXTREMELY easy to get to in
most of them, the air filter is always easy, and the timing belt is usually
very easy to access.

A V6 is a completely different baby, with three spark plugs in the back of
the engine, a timing belt that gumby usually couldn't access in a tight
engine compartment and more.

That alone may be reason to consider a 4 over a 6.

Tom Wenndt



Guncho 01-18-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Aye There's The Rub
 

Guncho wrote:
> Bain wrote:
> > what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
> >
> > "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
> > >
> > > 1 Timing Belt replaced
> > > 2 New Air Filter
> > > 3 New Spark Plugs
> > > 4 Minor tuneup
> > >
> > > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >

>
> 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k
>
> Chris


So I get to the Hyundai dealership expecting to pay $240 for the timing
belt replacement and then they pull back the other curtain.

"Hey while we're in there we might as well replace the p/s and alt
belts for $40."

Sure that sounds reasonable.

"And since we'll have the water pump in our hands when we do the timing
belt we should change that as well for only $190"!

$190?

I was aware that replacing the water pump was not an uncommon thing
when doing the belt, but $190? I talked her down to $150 but still, an
hour of labour to change it? Does that seem right?

It's a bit of a shock to be told one price on the phone $240, then find
out it's more like $430. Bit of bait and switch? I politely told her
that they should really tell people on the phone all of this until
waiting til you're standing there.

Anyways, she called me and said that the water bottle looked fine so I
declined to have it replaced as it's not my car anyway and I wasn't
authorized to spend that much.

Did I make a bad decision? Should I have gotten it replaced?

Chris


Guncho 01-18-2006 01:31 PM

Re: Aye There's The Rub
 

Guncho wrote:
> Bain wrote:
> > what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
> >
> > "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
> > > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
> > >
> > > 1 Timing Belt replaced
> > > 2 New Air Filter
> > > 3 New Spark Plugs
> > > 4 Minor tuneup
> > >
> > > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
> > >
> > > Chris
> > >

>
> 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k
>
> Chris


So I get to the Hyundai dealership expecting to pay $240 for the timing
belt replacement and then they pull back the other curtain.

"Hey while we're in there we might as well replace the p/s and alt
belts for $40."

Sure that sounds reasonable.

"And since we'll have the water pump in our hands when we do the timing
belt we should change that as well for only $190"!

$190?

I was aware that replacing the water pump was not an uncommon thing
when doing the belt, but $190? I talked her down to $150 but still, an
hour of labour to change it? Does that seem right?

It's a bit of a shock to be told one price on the phone $240, then find
out it's more like $430. Bit of bait and switch? I politely told her
that they should really tell people on the phone all of this until
waiting til you're standing there.

Anyways, she called me and said that the water bottle looked fine so I
declined to have it replaced as it's not my car anyway and I wasn't
authorized to spend that much.

Did I make a bad decision? Should I have gotten it replaced?

Chris



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