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Guncho 01-19-2006 11:38 AM

Re: Aye There's The Rub
 

Brian Nystrom wrote:
> Guncho wrote:
> > Guncho wrote:
> >
> >>Bain wrote:
> >>
> >>>what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
> >>>
> >>>"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> >>>news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.google groups.com...
> >>>
> >>>>For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
> >>>>
> >>>>1 Timing Belt replaced
> >>>>2 New Air Filter
> >>>>3 New Spark Plugs
> >>>>4 Minor tuneup
> >>>>
> >>>>I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
> >>>>
> >>>>Chris
> >>>>
> >>
> >>1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k
> >>
> >>Chris

> >
> >
> > So I get to the Hyundai dealership expecting to pay $240 for the timing
> > belt replacement and then they pull back the other curtain.
> >
> > "Hey while we're in there we might as well replace the p/s and alt
> > belts for $40."
> >
> > Sure that sounds reasonable.
> >
> > "And since we'll have the water pump in our hands when we do the timing
> > belt we should change that as well for only $190"!
> >
> > $190?
> >
> > I was aware that replacing the water pump was not an uncommon thing
> > when doing the belt, but $190? I talked her down to $150 but still, an
> > hour of labour to change it? Does that seem right?
> >
> > It's a bit of a shock to be told one price on the phone $240, then find
> > out it's more like $430. Bit of bait and switch? I politely told her
> > that they should really tell people on the phone all of this until
> > waiting til you're standing there.
> >
> > Anyways, she called me and said that the water bottle looked fine so I
> > declined to have it replaced as it's not my car anyway and I wasn't
> > authorized to spend that much.
> >
> > Did I make a bad decision? Should I have gotten it replaced?
> >
> > Chris

>
> Water bottle?


Sorry, water pump.

Chris


Rev. Tom Wenndt 01-19-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Aye There's The Rub
 
You made the right decision if:

*The pump isn't leaking;
*If you know you will be doing this job again down the road (if you'll be
keeping this car that long), when you can have it replaced 'next time.'

The worst case scenario would be to have it go bad before your next service
like this.

I severely question an additional hour of labor, since they virtually have
the silly thing in their hands when replacing the timing belt. Unless that
is the time needed to "bring down" and replace the coolant properly, but an
hour?

If the price of the just the water pump (the part) was high, I wouldn't be
shocked - that is an import for you.

As for the two exterior belts, makes sense to replace them, since they have
to take those off anyway to do the rest of this work. But it should be ONLY
for the price of the belts. And I'm sorry, belts have only been made for
about seven decades or so now - they should not be overly expensive.

Hope this helps (you and others).

Tom Wenndt


"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137609116.183063.69480@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Guncho wrote:
>> Bain wrote:
>> > what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
>> >
>> > "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> > > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>> > >
>> > > 1 Timing Belt replaced
>> > > 2 New Air Filter
>> > > 3 New Spark Plugs
>> > > 4 Minor tuneup
>> > >
>> > > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >

>>
>> 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k
>>
>> Chris

>
> So I get to the Hyundai dealership expecting to pay $240 for the timing
> belt replacement and then they pull back the other curtain.
>
> "Hey while we're in there we might as well replace the p/s and alt
> belts for $40."
>
> Sure that sounds reasonable.
>
> "And since we'll have the water pump in our hands when we do the timing
> belt we should change that as well for only $190"!
>
> $190?
>
> I was aware that replacing the water pump was not an uncommon thing
> when doing the belt, but $190? I talked her down to $150 but still, an
> hour of labour to change it? Does that seem right?
>
> It's a bit of a shock to be told one price on the phone $240, then find
> out it's more like $430. Bit of bait and switch? I politely told her
> that they should really tell people on the phone all of this until
> waiting til you're standing there.
>
> Anyways, she called me and said that the water bottle looked fine so I
> declined to have it replaced as it's not my car anyway and I wasn't
> authorized to spend that much.
>
> Did I make a bad decision? Should I have gotten it replaced?
>
> Chris
>




Rev. Tom Wenndt 01-19-2006 12:39 PM

Re: Aye There's The Rub
 
You made the right decision if:

*The pump isn't leaking;
*If you know you will be doing this job again down the road (if you'll be
keeping this car that long), when you can have it replaced 'next time.'

The worst case scenario would be to have it go bad before your next service
like this.

I severely question an additional hour of labor, since they virtually have
the silly thing in their hands when replacing the timing belt. Unless that
is the time needed to "bring down" and replace the coolant properly, but an
hour?

If the price of the just the water pump (the part) was high, I wouldn't be
shocked - that is an import for you.

As for the two exterior belts, makes sense to replace them, since they have
to take those off anyway to do the rest of this work. But it should be ONLY
for the price of the belts. And I'm sorry, belts have only been made for
about seven decades or so now - they should not be overly expensive.

Hope this helps (you and others).

Tom Wenndt


"Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1137609116.183063.69480@g44g2000cwa.googlegro ups.com...
>
> Guncho wrote:
>> Bain wrote:
>> > what car, that sounds about right for the 4 bangers
>> >
>> > "Guncho" <cgunter@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>> > news:1137517637.191046.49410@f14g2000cwb.googlegro ups.com...
>> > > For $321 Canadian I'm getting :
>> > >
>> > > 1 Timing Belt replaced
>> > > 2 New Air Filter
>> > > 3 New Spark Plugs
>> > > 4 Minor tuneup
>> > >
>> > > I thought the dealership was supposed to be expensive?
>> > >
>> > > Chris
>> > >

>>
>> 1999 Hyundai Accent GSI with 65,000k
>>
>> Chris

>
> So I get to the Hyundai dealership expecting to pay $240 for the timing
> belt replacement and then they pull back the other curtain.
>
> "Hey while we're in there we might as well replace the p/s and alt
> belts for $40."
>
> Sure that sounds reasonable.
>
> "And since we'll have the water pump in our hands when we do the timing
> belt we should change that as well for only $190"!
>
> $190?
>
> I was aware that replacing the water pump was not an uncommon thing
> when doing the belt, but $190? I talked her down to $150 but still, an
> hour of labour to change it? Does that seem right?
>
> It's a bit of a shock to be told one price on the phone $240, then find
> out it's more like $430. Bit of bait and switch? I politely told her
> that they should really tell people on the phone all of this until
> waiting til you're standing there.
>
> Anyways, she called me and said that the water bottle looked fine so I
> declined to have it replaced as it's not my car anyway and I wasn't
> authorized to spend that much.
>
> Did I make a bad decision? Should I have gotten it replaced?
>
> Chris
>





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