Would you buy again ?
 

Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

NO !



"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:43:52 GMT, desgnr posted:

>Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

I would. This year we just bought our second one.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Aug 24, 9:44 am, Oleg Lego <r...@atatatat.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:43:52 GMT, desgnr posted:
>
> >Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> I would. This year we just bought our second one.

I would. They have really good customer service, and make decent cars.
We're on our fourth hyundai. (We're a family of four)

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"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

Yes. Excellent value for a great car. In my extended family we have 3 dating
back to 2001. They've all been good vehicles.

Jon

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Yes I would buy again,
On my third Hyundai.
First was in 1997 Elantra
Now I have a 2006 Santa Fe.
Looking to get the new 2008 Accent 3 door sport form my daily driver to work
and back, keep the Santa fe for weekends,
(its a little hard on gas for a daily driver. )

"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Aug 24, 8:43 am, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

This is not an easy question since things change over time.
I have a 97 Hyundai Elantra 5SP. Just a plain one. no gls
Bought at 63K in 1999
Now have like 172K miles

If you asked the guy I talked to with a 98 Elantra Auto he could not
sell if fast enough. The transmission was given him problems. Who
know how he drove and how it was maintained.
Me I have a love/hate relationship with mine. Love it been the
cheapest and reliable car over the 110K I have owned it.
I have always used syn motor oil. Hate that it does not handle like
my 90 Horizon.

Another example is Saturn. I like the ones from 92-95 BUT things
change and they don't have things on them like transmission filters
that look like oil filters that are EASY to change. Maybe the newest
ones are good now?

The ongoing problem I have had with mine are the tires. Every few
years I have having slow leaks fixed in them. I think it has to do
with the fact it had fix-a-flat in all four tires when I bought it
leading to the rims rusting???

Major things fixed are cat converter, clutch 150K miles, muffler, oil
pan leak (replaced it), rust (I live in NY state), all four springs
and struts,

Well you get the idea. If you can get a inexpensive one go for it

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Yes, I would recommend a Hyundai. I have a 2006 Elantra and have been
pleased with the vehicle, from the sales experience to the service
experiences. Some posters have complained about the tires, etc., this
is not the fault of the car, but the tires. After all, the tires are
warranted by the tire manufacturer, not Hyundai. I've owned the
following makes of cars since 1985: Dodge, Honda, Mazda, Nissan, SAAB,
Toyota, Volvo, and now Hyundai. The Elantra has been as good, or
better, than any of the aforementioned cars. The fit and finish, and
overall build quality, is also excellent. I would not hesitate to
recommend a Hyundai to my best friend. One interesting piece of
trivia: one of my business colleagues husband is a Toyota Service
Manager. Guess what minivan they drive, and was recommend to her by
her husband?? - a Hyundai!

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

I've had a fair cluster of problems, but I still think I would
consider a Hyundai, if it met my shopping criteria. Anyone who is at
all handy can grab tons of information from hmaservice.com and tackle
a lot of the repairs themselves.

I test drove the Sonata and it just didn't seem to work with my body
geometries -- but that's a very personal gripe; it's probably fine for
most people. I still want to look at the Santa Fe and Tucson.

I would not purchase a car from Kearney Mesa Hyundai, if you happen to
be in San Diego (I wonder about whether there's something shady in the
whole "Sunroad" chain of dealers in Kearney Mesa -- I've had a bad
test drive experience at their Toyota, and unsatisfactory repair
experiences at their Hyundai and Ford dealerships. My friend had a
fine time at the Honda dealership though).

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

desgnr wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>

Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle. If
they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
amazing car.

Matt

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On 2007-08-24 08:43:52 -0400, "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> said:

> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

The only problem I had with my '05 Elantra was that it was too small.
It was fine for around town but on lengthy drives too cramped.
Since my purchase my brother has gotten an '06 Elantra as has my
sisters best friend, and my father has bought an Entourage as well as
my Elantra, all on my recomendation.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

My wife has an 01 Elantra that we bought new with no problems at all.
My daughter has an 04 Elantra that has been trouble free and I have an
03 Sonata LX that we also bought new that had a bad rear defrost which
required replacing the rear window to fix. Hyundai did the repair
quickly and without incident.

So, yes, I'd buy again. In fact, in the spring I plan to give the
Sonata to my wife, sell her Elantra and get myself an Azera Limited.

All that being said, the one thing I've done to all of our cars is get
rid of the godawful original equipment Michelin MXV4 tires and put
Kumho Solus KH16s on the Elantras and a set of Yokohama Avid H4S on the
Sonata. Well worth it.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Absolutely!

Since Hyundai and Kia are basically the same company now, I will lump my
Kias in this as well. Between the two brands, I just purchased my fifth
one.

Earlier years (20th century models) were indeed "cheap" cars. But this one,
the '06 Spectra, essentially the Hyundai Elantra, is one of the best
put-together cars I have ever seen from ANY brand.

Hyundai/Kia has definitely put a premium on quality recently, and it shows
in their vehicles. And since their vehicles can still be had for thousands
less than other brands, I do not believe there is a better value in the
industry, be it for cars, SUV's, or minvans.


"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Sure would.
Have a 2005 XG350L. Only thing I'd swap itfor would be a new Azera.
Two of my daughters have instructed me if I get rid of it they want it
"Rev. Tom Wenndt" <trwenndt@grics.net> wrote in message
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> Absolutely!
>
> Since Hyundai and Kia are basically the same company now, I will lump my
> Kias in this as well. Between the two brands, I just purchased my fifth
> one.
>
> Earlier years (20th century models) were indeed "cheap" cars. But this
> one, the '06 Spectra, essentially the Hyundai Elantra, is one of the best
> put-together cars I have ever seen from ANY brand.
>
> Hyundai/Kia has definitely put a premium on quality recently, and it shows
> in their vehicles. And since their vehicles can still be had for
> thousands less than other brands, I do not believe there is a better value
> in the industry, be it for cars, SUV's, or minvans.
>
>
> "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
> news:coAzi.4814$Wr3.1689@trndny03...
>> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>>
>
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

Yes, based on my experience of 11 months and 21,000 miles on my 07 Sonata.
Trouble free, no warranty issues at all. I have the limited V-6 and
performance is great. Best value around.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and while i have had my
share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another hyundai.

The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for towing but i'm put
off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for the santa fe ?? It
certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.

Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
Horsepower 200@6,000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
Towing Rating 3500 lbs

Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
Horsepower 242@6000
Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

"jmh_ottawa" <john@minasu.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and
> while i have had my
> share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another
> hyundai.
>
> The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for
> towing but i'm put
> off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for
> the santa fe ?? It
> certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.

Afaik the Santa Fe is built on a Sonata frame , the SF
will have a lesser Towing Rating than the Snotty because
it weighs more, for every pound on the same chassis the
LESS it can tow. towing 'guts' (HP, Torque ) have very
little to do with towing ,weight, chassis 'guts' ,
wheelbase, braking, rim and tire stats are what are
important to how it 'tows' .............

Personally if I were wanting to tow I would buy the 'tool'
that fits the job but then as far as I am concerned ALL
simply usless vehicles built on a CAR frame are
rediculous...............(if you put 4 adults and a lot of
luggage in them they are 'overloaded' ) ymmv.

Good luck

>
> Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
> Horsepower 200@6,000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
> Towing Rating 3500 lbs
>
> Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
> Horsepower 242@6000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
> Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs
>
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in news:coAzi.4814$Wr3.1689@trndny03:

> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>
Well, I am on my 7th now, so I would have to say yes. I still have the two
newest, but another 3 are still running in the family. And, well, let's
just say that the first two were problematic but nothing too serious.

My 7th, an Entourage, just saved my family's life in a fight with a tractor
trailer.

P.S. - I just got the Entourage back from the repairs from that fight. It
came out great and I am very satisfied. I also got my $500 deductible back
(actually I got the check a few days before I even had to pay it), and the
truckers insurance paid for my car rental after all.

Eric

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

No. Never again. Poor customer relations, crap product.
"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:44:04 -0600, Oleg Lego posted:

>On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 12:43:52 GMT, desgnr posted:
>
>>Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
>I would. This year we just bought our second one.

After reading some of the other responses, I remembered that my wife
had two previous models. I don't remember the model of the first one,
but the second was, I think, a Stellar. So, the Sonata we bought this
year makes it the fourth one.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

It's always a toss up between multiple uses.. commuting vrs towing. I know
a few people who tow with escapes, and other small to mid size suvs.
Granted they aren't going to pull 5000lbs but then if that was what was
being towed you're right a purpose built vehicle is required.

After seeing the specs of vehicles like the escape and dodge nitro.. both
with 3500lbs ratings i'd edge towards them as a next vehicle simple
because the santa fe isn't quite in the same playing field.

Thanks for your input though as it makes perfect sense.. even if for 90%
of my use towing isn't a requirement.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle. If
> they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
> amazing car.

Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more. One of us
has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint though.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle. If
>> they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would be an
>> amazing car.
>
> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more. One of us
> has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint though.

I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference
is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai
hasn't a clue.

Matt

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

> NO !


YES!

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Aug 24, 5:43 am, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

2006 Tucson. Have not had to take it back to dealer for any service
except for a factory recall to replace the passenger airbag. The
little SUV has been perfect and trouble-free. Really good value for
the money so far.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:6BMzi.95$q22.5774@news1.epix.net:

> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.
>>> If they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would
>>> be an amazing car.
>>
>> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more.
>> One of us has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint
>> though.
>
> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
> the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
> standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the
> difference is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right
> and Hyundai hasn't a clue.
>
> Matt

Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
for me. Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
when I am still stunned by it. I can't imagine how you engage the
clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
start.

And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
Matt.

Eric

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>
> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with the
> two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with standard
> shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the difference is night
> and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right and Hyundai hasn't a
> clue.
>
> Matt

I have auto. I've either gotten used to it or it smoothed out over time.
It was a PITA the first month or so. Going from one car to another does not
seem to make much difference though. I may have mention it before, but the
wife of a guy at work got rid of her 06 LX after six months solely because
of the throttle.

No doubt the BMW is much better. I've not driven one for a while but
performance was better than the Sonata, but the price tag was much different
also.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Eric G. wrote:
> Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
> news:6BMzi.95$q22.5774@news1.epix.net:
>
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>>>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>>>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.
>>>> If they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would
>>>> be an amazing car.
>>> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more.
>>> One of us has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint
>>> though.
>> I can't remember if you have standard shift or automatic. With an
>> automatic, it would likely not be an issue and I didn't notice it with
>> the two automatics I test drove. I suspect it is amplified with
>> standard shift. You drive a BMW and then the Sonata and the
>> difference is night and day. BMW knows how to do standard shift right
>> and Hyundai hasn't a clue.
>>
>> Matt
>
> Well, I have an automatic and the throttle sensitivity is still an issue
> for me. Yes, I have gotten used to it, but there are still times,
> especially after driving another car of just about any make or model,
> when I am still stunned by it. I can't imagine how you engage the
> clutch without chirping the tires or stalling on almost every 1st gear
> start.

I've gotten fairly good at starting out, unless there is a lot of noise
around like a large truck or Harley sitting beside me. Neither the
clutch nor the throttle gives any tactile feedback, unlike every other
standard shift car or truck I've driven. So, without aural feedback, it
is easy to either stall the engine or race it to 2,000 RPM when starting
out.

Actually, the most troublesome area for me is still the 1-2 shift. I
rarely get that done smoothly. 2-3, 3-4 and 4-5 aren't bad now.


> And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
> the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
> Matt.

I've never driven a stick shift Honda so I have no basis for comparison.
Of all the cars I've driven, the BMW is the best. For trucks, my
current Chevy K1500 with the MT8 transmission is the best.

Matt

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Yes I would, I have 3 a 2003 Santa Fe a 2005 XG350L and a 2006 Tucson love
them all

']['unez

--
" Never hold your farts in "
they go straight up your spine
and into your brain and that's
where shitty ideas come from "



"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

On Aug 24, 8:43 am, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

I've had my Sonata for 14 months now and I have recommended it to
other people. It's a great deal for the money.

For an even better deal, look at used instead of new.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

According to Consumer Reports (who, for better or worse is very impressed
with the redesigned Santa Fe), towing is rated at 3,500 pounds with the V6
engine.


"jmh_ottawa" <john@minasu.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and while i have had my
> share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another hyundai.
>
> The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for towing but i'm put
> off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for the santa fe ??
> It
> certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.
>
> Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
> Horsepower 200@6,000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
> Towing Rating 3500 lbs
>
> Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
> Horsepower 242@6000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
> Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs
>
>

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

We currently have a '99 5 spd Elantra wagon which we bought new.(A leap
of faith at the time) Not a whole lot to complain about in 8 years and
122K miles. Replaced upstream O2 sensor which corrected the check engine
and also the cold start valve. The paint and power window regulators are
subpar. We drive easy road miles mostly and are still on original
clutch, brakes, exhaust and struts. The time and alarm module is shot,
but I found one on Ebay.

I think cars are made so well now that I'll probably buy used next go
around. The likely candidate is a Hyundai kissin' cousin, Kia Spectra5,
which I feel is a heck of a lot of car for the money.....but I'll give
the re-introduced Elantra wagon a chance to tempt me.

L.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

I own a 2005 Tucson and it's the first and last Hyndai that I buy.
Fuel consumption is terrible, I had problem with the wheel alignment and
customer service is the worst I have seen.
I previously own a Toyota RAV-4 and a Honda Accord wich I consider a better
product than Hyundai.

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>

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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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>
> No doubt the BMW is much better. I've not driven one for a while but
> performance was better than the Sonata, but the price tag was much
> different also.

As told in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw6Lmq3brjI



--
Zotto Sonica barbonica driver
http://www.flickr.com/photos/zottoida/

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Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":

d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
other than providing an unbiased response.

While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.

I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.

Regards
Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500

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And you call CR unbiased? One of the most biased medias I know of.
"Wayne Moses" <wayne.moses@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
>
> I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
> needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.
>
> Regards
> Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500
>
> === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Wayne Moses wrote:
> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.

Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.

I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
least another 100K miles before making that assessment.

The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
$900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
accessories were original when it was totaled.

So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.

Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.


Matt

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

desgnr wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

Absolutely! My current Elantra is my second Hyundai. I bought it
specifically because of the great service I got from my first one.

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

Matt Whiting wrote:
> Wayne Moses wrote:
>> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007
>> 07: 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
>> 'names' in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people
>> with agendas other than providing an unbiased response.
>> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports
>> while taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.

Then there is the 'Honda/Toyota Syndrome'

The inability,to publicly admit that one has had problems with said
vehicles.

Denial, embarrassment, separation from the herd?...not sure why, but I
know it exists.

L.



>
> Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
> biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
> data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
> aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.
>
> I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
> 1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
> was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
> days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
> best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
> least another 100K miles before making that assessment.
>
> The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
> accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
> the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
> items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
> Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
> $900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
> required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
> and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
> whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
> miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
> accessories were original when it was totaled.
>
> So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
> impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
> data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.
>
> Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
> so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
> results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
> who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.
>
>
> Matt

Re: Would you buy again ?
 

>Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?

Do you work for Hyundai?

- Thee Chicago Wolf