Would you buy again ?
08-25-2007, 04:29 PM
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Re: Would you buy again ?
According to Consumer Reports (who, for better or worse is very impressed
with the redesigned Santa Fe), towing is rated at 3,500 pounds with the V6
engine.
"jmh_ottawa" <john@minasu.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and while i have had my
> share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another hyundai.
>
> The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for towing but i'm put
> off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for the santa fe ??
> It
> certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.
>
> Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
> Horsepower 200@6,000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
> Towing Rating 3500 lbs
>
> Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
> Horsepower 242@6000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
> Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs
>
>
with the redesigned Santa Fe), towing is rated at 3,500 pounds with the V6
engine.
"jmh_ottawa" <john@minasu.com> wrote in message
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> Yes I have owned my 2002 elantra since sept 2001 and while i have had my
> share of problems it wouldn't put me off buying another hyundai.
>
> The next vehicle i buy will have a little more guts for towing but i'm put
> off because hyundai doesn't state the towing details for the santa fe ??
> It
> certainly seems to have more guts than the Escape.
>
> Ford Escape V6 3.0 l
> Horsepower 200@6,000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 193@4,850
> Towing Rating 3500 lbs
>
> Hyundai Sana Fe V6 3.3 l
> Horsepower 242@6000
> Torque (lb.-ft.@rpm) 226@4500
> Towing Rating ?????? some sites say 2000lbs
>
>
08-25-2007, 08:13 PM
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Re: Would you buy again ?
We currently have a '99 5 spd Elantra wagon which we bought new.(A leap
of faith at the time) Not a whole lot to complain about in 8 years and
122K miles. Replaced upstream O2 sensor which corrected the check engine
and also the cold start valve. The paint and power window regulators are
subpar. We drive easy road miles mostly and are still on original
clutch, brakes, exhaust and struts. The time and alarm module is shot,
but I found one on Ebay.
I think cars are made so well now that I'll probably buy used next go
around. The likely candidate is a Hyundai kissin' cousin, Kia Spectra5,
which I feel is a heck of a lot of car for the money.....but I'll give
the re-introduced Elantra wagon a chance to tempt me.
L.
08-25-2007, 11:49 PM
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I own a 2005 Tucson and it's the first and last Hyndai that I buy.
Fuel consumption is terrible, I had problem with the wheel alignment and
customer service is the worst I have seen.
I previously own a Toyota RAV-4 and a Honda Accord wich I consider a better
product than Hyundai.
"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
coAzi.4814$Wr3.1689@trndny03...
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
Fuel consumption is terrible, I had problem with the wheel alignment and
customer service is the worst I have seen.
I previously own a Toyota RAV-4 and a Honda Accord wich I consider a better
product than Hyundai.
"desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> a écrit dans le message de news:
coAzi.4814$Wr3.1689@trndny03...
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
08-26-2007, 06:26 AM
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"Edwin Pawlowski" <esp@snet.net> ha scritto nel messaggio
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> No doubt the BMW is much better. I've not driven one for a while but
> performance was better than the Sonata, but the price tag was much
> different also.
As told in this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zw6Lmq3brjI
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08-26-2007, 10:20 AM
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Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
other than providing an unbiased response.
While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.
Regards
Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500
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43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
other than providing an unbiased response.
While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.
Regards
Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500
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08-26-2007, 10:47 AM
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And you call CR unbiased? One of the most biased medias I know of.
"Wayne Moses" <wayne.moses@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
>
> I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
> needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.
>
> Regards
> Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500
>
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"Wayne Moses" <wayne.moses@comcast.net> wrote in message
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> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
>
> I have personally owed 5 Hyundais so far and if they have one to fit my
> needs next time I am in the market I will certainly buy it.
>
> Regards
> Wayne Moses <wayne.moses@comcast.net> Sun, 26 Aug 2007 08:34:35 -0500
>
> === Posted with Qusnetsoft NewsReader 3.3
08-26-2007, 05:59 PM
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Wayne Moses wrote:
> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.
I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
least another 100K miles before making that assessment.
The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
$900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
accessories were original when it was totaled.
So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.
Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.
Matt
> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:
> 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>
> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of 'names'
> in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people with agendas
> other than providing an unbiased response.
>
> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports while
> taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.
I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
least another 100K miles before making that assessment.
The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
$900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
accessories were original when it was totaled.
So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.
Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.
Matt
08-27-2007, 08:35 AM
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Re: Would you buy again ?
Matt Whiting wrote:
> Wayne Moses wrote:
>> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007
>> 07: 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
>> 'names' in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people
>> with agendas other than providing an unbiased response.
>> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports
>> while taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
Then there is the 'Honda/Toyota Syndrome'
The inability,to publicly admit that one has had problems with said
vehicles.
Denial, embarrassment, separation from the herd?...not sure why, but I
know it exists.
L.
>
> Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
> biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
> data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
> aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.
>
> I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
> 1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
> was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
> days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
> best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
> least another 100K miles before making that assessment.
>
> The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
> accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
> the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
> items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
> Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
> $900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
> required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
> and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
> whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
> miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
> accessories were original when it was totaled.
>
> So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
> impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
> data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.
>
> Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
> so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
> results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
> who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.
>
>
> Matt
> Wayne Moses wrote:
>> Reply to message from "desgnr" <desgnr@verizon.net> (Fri, 24 Aug 2007
>> 07: 43:52) about "Would you buy again ?":
>> d> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>> Are you going to base your decisions on the responses of a bunch of
>> 'names' in an Internet newsgroup? Could be trolls in here and people
>> with agendas other than providing an unbiased response.
>> While I loath to do this let me suggest you consult Consumer Reports
>> while taking any negative responses here with a grain of salt.
Then there is the 'Honda/Toyota Syndrome'
The inability,to publicly admit that one has had problems with said
vehicles.
Denial, embarrassment, separation from the herd?...not sure why, but I
know it exists.
L.
>
> Also take Consumer Reports with a large dose of salt. They are quite
> biased and don't track the long-term reliability of vehicles. And there
> data is from a bunch of "names" who are their subscribers and thus
> aren't necessarily a representative sample of drivers nationwide.
>
> I've own two cars that were at nearly opposite extremes of CR ratings: a
> 1984 Accord and a 1989 Acclaim. The Accord, though drooled over by CR,
> was a POS. The day I traded it on the Acclaim was one of the happiest
> days of my life. CR constantly panned the Acclaim, but that was the
> best car I've ever owned. The Sonata may supplant it, but I'll need at
> least another 100K miles before making that assessment.
>
> The Acclaim was bullet-proof. When my wife totaled it in a deer
> accident at 143,000 miles, it still had the original exhaust system and
> the only thing it had required other than normal maintenance and wear
> items was a new flex plate that cracked at around 100,000 miles. The
> Accord had required more repairs in the first 60,000 miles (including a
> $900 exhaust system and that was back in the 80s!) than the Acclaim
> required in its entire life. The Accord engine failed at 72,000 miles
> and required a new top end (camshaft and complete set of rocker arms),
> whereas the Acclaim engine was absolutely bullet-proof up to 143,000
> miles. Change the oil and filters and run it. Even the engine
> accessories were original when it was totaled.
>
> So, take CR with a BIG dose of salt. They give you their initial
> impressions in their tests and then depend on subscriber surveys for
> data longer term, but even that ends at 5 years as I recall.
>
> Personally, I've found the "long term" (typically still only a year or
> so) tests that Popular Mechanics runs are much more useful that CRs
> results. And PM isn't afraid to also criticize Japanese cars unlike CR
> who seems to think the Japanese can do no wrong.
>
>
> Matt
08-27-2007, 01:53 PM
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Ditto that Brian!
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AZ home for sale in growing area near Laughlin, NV-
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html
http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> desgnr wrote:
>> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Absolutely! My current Elantra is my second Hyundai. I bought it
> specifically because of the great service I got from my first one.
>
--
Steve, 2006 Sonata LX
AZ home for sale in growing area near Laughlin, NV-
http://inlandempire.craigslist.org/rfs/370324491.html
http://www.hoobly.com/0/0/383472.html
"Brian Nystrom" <brian.nystrom@verizon.net> wrote in message
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> desgnr wrote:
>> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
>
> Absolutely! My current Elantra is my second Hyundai. I bought it
> specifically because of the great service I got from my first one.
>
08-27-2007, 02:42 PM
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Re: Would you buy again ?
>> Edwin Pawlowski wrote:
>>> "Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
>>>> Probably. My 06 Sonata has been the most trouble-free car I've ever
>>>> owned, but it also has some of the most annoying design quirks,
>>>> particularly a lousy clutch and over sensitive electronic throttle.
>>>> If they would hire BMW to design their clutch and throttle, it would
>>>> be an amazing car.
>>>
>>> Throttle sensitivity bothered me for a month or so, but no more.
>>> One of us has changed, I guess. It has been a common complaint
>>> though.
>
> And not to argue the point about BMW's, but I personally think Honda has
> the best manual on the market. But I know you are a little anti-Honda,
> Matt.
>
> Eric
I'd have to agree with you on that one. The 3 Honda's I've had were manuals
and they all had a really sweet clutch.
We're an all automatic family now, though. Arthritis in my clutch foot.
Jon
08-28-2007, 10:23 PM
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Re: Would you buy again ?
I too have 07 Sonata Limited and LOVE it. I love everything about it -
style, comfort, ride, style, and most important maintenance (of which
there has been none).
The one thing I don't like is the gas mileage. I only get 16 in the
city (V6) and I was really hoping for 20 at least.
Kevin
style, comfort, ride, style, and most important maintenance (of which
there has been none).
The one thing I don't like is the gas mileage. I only get 16 in the
city (V6) and I was really hoping for 20 at least.
Kevin
08-29-2007, 11:18 PM
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On Aug 24, 8:43 pm, "desgnr" <des...@verizon.net> wrote:
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
WITHOUT hesitation . We operate a large number of vehicles
and this years NF Sonata FOUR!!! 2.4 motor
Has been more than fantastic
80% is over dirt roads
A few Honda and BMW folk have also made the switch
and On a Scale of 10 give it a FULL 10 And we are covering 6000 Km a
week
Just a truly fantastic car
Considering I wanted the Caprice or BMW This product is one of the
most pleasant surprises of vehicles ever
Can send photos of the conditions it operates in
NO dust leeks
NO rattles
NO squeks
No service or tune issues
OUTstanding fuel economy av 7.9 litres per 100 K's at an average
speed of 85-90km per hour
Thing is as tough as guts
enjoy if/when you get one
> Do you guys recommend buying a Hyundai ?
WITHOUT hesitation . We operate a large number of vehicles
and this years NF Sonata FOUR!!! 2.4 motor
Has been more than fantastic
80% is over dirt roads
A few Honda and BMW folk have also made the switch
and On a Scale of 10 give it a FULL 10 And we are covering 6000 Km a
week
Just a truly fantastic car
Considering I wanted the Caprice or BMW This product is one of the
most pleasant surprises of vehicles ever
Can send photos of the conditions it operates in
NO dust leeks
NO rattles
NO squeks
No service or tune issues
OUTstanding fuel economy av 7.9 litres per 100 K's at an average
speed of 85-90km per hour
Thing is as tough as guts
enjoy if/when you get one