Eaton Wings

what exactly kind of headlights are those? i mean, are they supposed to be
a combo headlight and foglamp all in one? when a car with those is
approaching me i feel like reaching for the sunglasses. have there been any
accidents that can be attributed to them? what are they made of?

just curious.

Eaton

Brian Nystrom

Eaton Wings wrote:
> what exactly kind of headlights are those? i mean, are they supposed to be
> a combo headlight and foglamp all in one? when a car with those is
> approaching me i feel like reaching for the sunglasses. have there been any
> accidents that can be attributed to them? what are they made of?

They're called HID (High-Intensity Discharge) headlamps. No, they aren't
a combination headlamp/foglamp, as those are entirely different types of
lights. Headlights are have a medium width, long beam to assist distance
vision. Fog lamps have a wide, flat beam that illuminates the sides of
the road and the road surface near the car. Contrary to your supposition
that HID lamps cause accidents, the fact is that they provide superior
distance vision and probably prevent quite a few accidents.

I find idiots that drive with their fog lights on all the time, need
them or not, to be much more irritating that HID's.

K Browne

Eaton Wings wrote:
> what exactly kind of headlights are those? i mean, are they supposed to be
> a combo headlight and foglamp all in one? when a car with those is
> approaching me i feel like reaching for the sunglasses. have there been any
> accidents that can be attributed to them? what are they made of?
>
> just curious.
>
> Eaton

Next time someone comes toward you at night with hi-beams on, ask
yourself if you're upset because they're using hi-beams or are you
*really* blinded? I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide
median the hi beams of an oncoming driver would be bothersome. Now if
the high beams are in my rear view mirror!!!! :-{

--
****************Ken Browne*********************
clacking the keys in olde Sturbridge village, MA
*** ***

Wayne Moses

"K Browne" <kbrowne01518@verizon.net> wrote in message
news:7CF1f.147$Iq3.69@trndny01...

> I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide median the hi beams
> of an oncoming driver would be bothersome.

In many irritating cases, the headlights are mis-aimed. That is what blinds
people.

--

Wayne Moses,
2005 Hyundai Tiburon GT V6
http://egt.gwebworks.com

nothermark

On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:26:35 GMT, "Wayne Moses"
<wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote:

>
>"K Browne" <kbrowne01518@verizon.net> wrote in message
>news:7CF1f.147$Iq3.69@trndny01...
>
>> I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide median the hi beams
>> of an oncoming driver would be bothersome.
>
>In many irritating cases, the headlights are mis-aimed. That is what blinds
>people.

Even if they are not misaimed think about curves. Also consider that
the bright point source bothers many folks even if the beam is not
directly in their face.

Tom

I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
outdrive my lights.

"nothermark" <trash@gnomex.cotse.net> wrote in message
news:usesk1hgn835vo6bt1vhsvd0hgdm0lioeb@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:26:35 GMT, "Wayne Moses"
> <wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"K Browne" <kbrowne01518@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:7CF1f.147$Iq3.69@trndny01...
>>
>>> I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide median the hi beams
>>> of an oncoming driver would be bothersome.
>>
>>In many irritating cases, the headlights are mis-aimed. That is what
>>blinds
>>people.
>
> Even if they are not misaimed think about curves. Also consider that
> the bright point source bothers many folks even if the beam is not
> directly in their face.

Tom

I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
outdrive my lights.

"nothermark" <trash@gnomex.cotse.net> wrote in message
news:usesk1hgn835vo6bt1vhsvd0hgdm0lioeb@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:26:35 GMT, "Wayne Moses"
> <wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"K Browne" <kbrowne01518@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:7CF1f.147$Iq3.69@trndny01...
>>
>>> I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide median the hi beams
>>> of an oncoming driver would be bothersome.
>>
>>In many irritating cases, the headlights are mis-aimed. That is what
>>blinds
>>people.
>
> Even if they are not misaimed think about curves. Also consider that
> the bright point source bothers many folks even if the beam is not
> directly in their face.

Tom

I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
outdrive my lights.

"nothermark" <trash@gnomex.cotse.net> wrote in message
news:usesk1hgn835vo6bt1vhsvd0hgdm0lioeb@4ax.com...
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 00:26:35 GMT, "Wayne Moses"
> <wmoses@houston.rr.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>"K Browne" <kbrowne01518@verizon.net> wrote in message
>>news:7CF1f.147$Iq3.69@trndny01...
>>
>>> I can't imagine why on a divided highway with a wide median the hi beams
>>> of an oncoming driver would be bothersome.
>>
>>In many irritating cases, the headlights are mis-aimed. That is what
>>blinds
>>people.
>
> Even if they are not misaimed think about curves. Also consider that
> the bright point source bothers many folks even if the beam is not
> directly in their face.

Mike Marlow

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron
in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam.
Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.
>

100 yards or more? God lord Tom - where do you live that the lanes are
divided by that much? I can tell you that most times high beams on cars
across the median do in fact affect you. If you need to use your highs to
avoid deer then maybe the safer thing for you to do is avoid the highways at
night. Being hit with oncoming high beams - especially new cars, is not
simply being inconsiderate of your "right to drive safely". They do in fact
affect the drivers coming at you. If your night vision is poor or your
reflex time slow, then do the one thing that is not inconsiderate of the
other drivers around you and slow down - or find another road.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron
in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam.
Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.
>

100 yards or more? God lord Tom - where do you live that the lanes are
divided by that much? I can tell you that most times high beams on cars
across the median do in fact affect you. If you need to use your highs to
avoid deer then maybe the safer thing for you to do is avoid the highways at
night. Being hit with oncoming high beams - especially new cars, is not
simply being inconsiderate of your "right to drive safely". They do in fact
affect the drivers coming at you. If your night vision is poor or your
reflex time slow, then do the one thing that is not inconsiderate of the
other drivers around you and slow down - or find another road.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Mike Marlow

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in message
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net. ..
> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron
in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam.
Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.
>

100 yards or more? God lord Tom - where do you live that the lanes are
divided by that much? I can tell you that most times high beams on cars
across the median do in fact affect you. If you need to use your highs to
avoid deer then maybe the safer thing for you to do is avoid the highways at
night. Being hit with oncoming high beams - especially new cars, is not
simply being inconsiderate of your "right to drive safely". They do in fact
affect the drivers coming at you. If your night vision is poor or your
reflex time slow, then do the one thing that is not inconsiderate of the
other drivers around you and slow down - or find another road.

--

-Mike-
mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net

Matt Whiting

Tom wrote:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.

Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though.
I flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights
are bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of
deer here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my
night vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with
their high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my
own high beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night
accomodation of my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from
opposing high beams.


Matt

Matt Whiting

Tom wrote:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.

Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though.
I flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights
are bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of
deer here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my
night vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with
their high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my
own high beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night
accomodation of my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from
opposing high beams.


Matt

Matt Whiting

Tom wrote:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before he
> becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some moron in
> the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or more from my
> lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is affecting his
> ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just
> plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than
> outdrive my lights.

Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying,
even with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though.
I flash people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights
are bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of
deer here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my
night vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with
their high beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my
own high beams on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night
accomodation of my eyes, then high beams with temporary blindness from
opposing high beams.


Matt

Darby OGill

"Matt Whiting" <whiting@epix.net> wrote in message
news:ukpbg.8898$lb.806638@news1.epix.net...
> Tom wrote:
>
>> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I often
>> have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many deer before
>> he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more than when some
>> moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which is 100 yards or
>> more from my lane, starts flashing his lights. There's no way that it is
>> affecting his ability to see. It is just that he 'knows' I have them on
>> high beam. Just plain stupid! And inconsiderate of my right to drive
>> safely rather than outdrive my lights.
>
> Wow, your divided highways are really divided! Around here, ours are
> probably at most 50 yards from center to center, and many have just a
> concrete divider between the lanes. I find high beams very annoying, even
> with 50 yards separation. 100 might not be too bothersome though. I flash
> people in the other lane of a divided highway if their lights are
> bothering me, which they usually do on high beam. We have lots of deer
> here in northern PA as well, which is why I don't want to have my night
> vision temporarily reduced by someone in the opposing lane with their high
> beams on. That more than offsets what I gain by having my own high beams
> on. I'd rather have my low beams with full night accomodation of my eyes,
> then high beams with temporary blindness from opposing high beams.
>
>
> Matt
The highway I frequent has some wide medians though not 100 yrds wide. I
use my HB's as much as possible, but always dim them for oncoming cars. Boy,
it bugs me when they don't. I try to protect my night vision, and oncoming
highs seem to burn a lingering whole in my night sight. Also, it is
irritable when following cars dim only when very close, so close they are
already benefitting from driving in the wake of my headlamps. I suppose eyes
are different. Just ask yourself how you find it when others leave 'em up in
your face. PS Obviously sweeping turns make a difference-in one direction
traffic shining its lights into oncoming traffic but the other direction's
lights shine out and away from the turn, and it my not be necessary to dim.
ymmv