A. Sinan Unur

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
> often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
> deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
> than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
> is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
> There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
> that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
> inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
> lights.

I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.

Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.

By the way,

* I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.

* Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
roads.

* Do you also think it is a good idea to switch to high beams in dense
fog, and drive really close to the car in front of you?

Sinan

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A. Sinan Unur

"Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:

> I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
> driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
> often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
> deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
> than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
> is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
> There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
> that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
> inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
> lights.

I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.

Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.

By the way,

* I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.

* Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
roads.

* Do you also think it is a good idea to switch to high beams in dense
fog, and drive really close to the car in front of you?

Sinan

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Matt Whiting

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>
>
>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>lights.
>
>
> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>
> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.
>
> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.

There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median that
block the lights effectively. However, there aren't many medians 100
years wide in PA that have no obstacles between the lanes. Personally,
if there are no obstacles in the median to block the light, then I dim
my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the opposite lanes.


Matt

Matt Whiting

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>
>
>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>lights.
>
>
> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>
> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.
>
> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.

There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median that
block the lights effectively. However, there aren't many medians 100
years wide in PA that have no obstacles between the lanes. Personally,
if there are no obstacles in the median to block the light, then I dim
my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the opposite lanes.


Matt

Matt Whiting

A. Sinan Unur wrote:
> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>
>
>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>lights.
>
>
> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>
> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night vision.
>
> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.

There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median that
block the lights effectively. However, there aren't many medians 100
years wide in PA that have no obstacles between the lanes. Personally,
if there are no obstacles in the median to block the light, then I dim
my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the opposite lanes.


Matt

A. Sinan Unur

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:qWfdg.8979$lb.818358@news1.epix.net:

> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>>lights.
>>
>>
>> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
>> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>>
>> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
>> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night
>> vision.
>>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>
> There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
> example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median
> that block the lights effectively.

Of course, but I was ignoring those stretches, because, in that case,
oncoming traffic would not have been able to tell if Tom was using high
beams.

> Personally, if there are no obstacles in the median to block the
> light, then I dim my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the
> opposite lanes.

Thank you ;-)

I drive the I-81, I-380, I-80, I-280 route between Ithaca, NY and
Hoboken, NJ fairly often, and encounter far too many people who seem not
to care.

Sinan

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A. Sinan Unur

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:qWfdg.8979$lb.818358@news1.epix.net:

> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>>lights.
>>
>>
>> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
>> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>>
>> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
>> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night
>> vision.
>>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>
> There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
> example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median
> that block the lights effectively.

Of course, but I was ignoring those stretches, because, in that case,
oncoming traffic would not have been able to tell if Tom was using high
beams.

> Personally, if there are no obstacles in the median to block the
> light, then I dim my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the
> opposite lanes.

Thank you ;-)

I drive the I-81, I-380, I-80, I-280 route between Ithaca, NY and
Hoboken, NJ fairly often, and encounter far too many people who seem not
to care.

Sinan

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A. Sinan Unur

Matt Whiting <whiting@epix.net> wrote in
news:qWfdg.8979$lb.818358@news1.epix.net:

> A. Sinan Unur wrote:
>> "Tom" <tjwitman@bellsouth.net> wrote in
>> news:F19bg.74608$Jk3.23389@bignews5.bellsouth.net:
>>
>>
>>>I don't know how this ended up on the Hyundai site; however, when I'm
>>>driving down the interstate at night with no one in front of me, I
>>>often have my high beams on in the hope of spotting one of the many
>>>deer before he becomes a hood ornament. Nothing irritates me more
>>>than when some moron in the other lanes of the divided highway, which
>>>is 100 yards or more from my lane, starts flashing his lights.
>>>There's no way that it is affecting his ability to see. It is just
>>>that he 'knows' I have them on high beam. Just plain stupid! And
>>>inconsiderate of my right to drive safely rather than outdrive my
>>>lights.
>>
>>
>> I guess I am one of those morons. In fact, if I could get rockets
>> installed on my car, I would definitely shoot them at you.
>>
>> Especially on winding roads, even with a median, high-beams from
>> oncoming traffic are incredibly harmful on other drivers' night
>> vision.
>>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>
> There are a few places with medians this wide, several on I-80 for
> example, but they often have trees or rock formations in the median
> that block the lights effectively.

Of course, but I was ignoring those stretches, because, in that case,
oncoming traffic would not have been able to tell if Tom was using high
beams.

> Personally, if there are no obstacles in the median to block the
> light, then I dim my lights when an oncoming car approaches in the
> opposite lanes.

Thank you ;-)

I drive the I-81, I-380, I-80, I-280 route between Ithaca, NY and
Hoboken, NJ fairly often, and encounter far too many people who seem not
to care.

Sinan

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Mike Marlow

"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...

> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.
>

While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in the
Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates. Carcasses
are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy to see deer on
or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen several car/deer
collisions on the interstates and every time the driver had plenty of time
to see and be prepared for a deer strike. The biggest problem (though not
the sole cause) of car/deer encounters is drivers who believe their sole
obligation is to point the car toward their destination and step on the gas.

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Mike Marlow

"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...

> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.
>

While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in the
Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates. Carcasses
are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy to see deer on
or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen several car/deer
collisions on the interstates and every time the driver had plenty of time
to see and be prepared for a deer strike. The biggest problem (though not
the sole cause) of car/deer encounters is drivers who believe their sole
obligation is to point the car toward their destination and step on the gas.

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Mike Marlow

"A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...

> By the way,
>
> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I do
> not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>
> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on interstate
> highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on back country
> roads.
>

While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in the
Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates. Carcasses
are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy to see deer on
or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen several car/deer
collisions on the interstates and every time the driver had plenty of time
to see and be prepared for a deer strike. The biggest problem (though not
the sole cause) of car/deer encounters is drivers who believe their sole
obligation is to point the car toward their destination and step on the gas.

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A. Sinan Unur

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
news:170e7$447599c7$45289739$22810@ALLTEL.NET:

>
> "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>>
>
> While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in
> the Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates.
> Carcasses are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy
> to see deer on or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen
> several car/deer collisions on the interstates and every time the
> driver had plenty of time to see and be prepared for a deer strike.

I must be blanking then. Yes, I have seen the occasional carcass or two
on I-81 or I-90, but that, in my memory, seems to be overwhelmed by the
sheer number of carcasses I see on rural upstate NY routes. Is that
because the interstates are cleaned up more quickly?

I have been very lucky in that I have not had more than a handful of
encounters with deer on the road in the last 15 years in Ithaca where
the deer population has gotten so brazen to roam around down town on
occasion.

I remember one cold winter night when I ended up waiting at a bus stop
along with a family of deer. Let me tell you, bambi is cute, but I was
scared ;-)


> The biggest problem (though not the sole cause) of car/deer encounters
> is drivers who believe their sole obligation is to point the car
> toward their destination and step on the gas.

Agreed. And those who think that brakes work instantly under all
conditions.

Sinan
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A. Sinan Unur

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
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>
> "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>>
>
> While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in
> the Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates.
> Carcasses are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy
> to see deer on or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen
> several car/deer collisions on the interstates and every time the
> driver had plenty of time to see and be prepared for a deer strike.

I must be blanking then. Yes, I have seen the occasional carcass or two
on I-81 or I-90, but that, in my memory, seems to be overwhelmed by the
sheer number of carcasses I see on rural upstate NY routes. Is that
because the interstates are cleaned up more quickly?

I have been very lucky in that I have not had more than a handful of
encounters with deer on the road in the last 15 years in Ithaca where
the deer population has gotten so brazen to roam around down town on
occasion.

I remember one cold winter night when I ended up waiting at a bus stop
along with a family of deer. Let me tell you, bambi is cute, but I was
scared ;-)


> The biggest problem (though not the sole cause) of car/deer encounters
> is drivers who believe their sole obligation is to point the car
> toward their destination and step on the gas.

Agreed. And those who think that brakes work instantly under all
conditions.

Sinan
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A. Sinan Unur

"Mike Marlow" <mmarlowREMOVE@alltel.net> wrote in
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>
> "A. Sinan Unur" <1usa@llenroc.ude.invalid> wrote in message
> news:Xns97CE456C8A2Aasu1cornelledu@127.0.0.1...
>
>> By the way,
>>
>> * I have driven quite a bit in NY, PA, NJ, MD, DC, VA, IL, OH, and I
>> do not remember any interstates with a hundred yard median.
>>
>> * Is there really such a great chance of encountering deer on
>> interstate highways? I am assuming, 100 yard medians don't exist on
>> back country roads.
>>
>
> While I agree with everything else you said, I will point out that in
> the Northeast it is very common to encounter deer on the interstates.
> Carcasses are quite frequent. Having said that, it is also quite easy
> to see deer on or near the median or shoulder of the road. I've seen
> several car/deer collisions on the interstates and every time the
> driver had plenty of time to see and be prepared for a deer strike.

I must be blanking then. Yes, I have seen the occasional carcass or two
on I-81 or I-90, but that, in my memory, seems to be overwhelmed by the
sheer number of carcasses I see on rural upstate NY routes. Is that
because the interstates are cleaned up more quickly?

I have been very lucky in that I have not had more than a handful of
encounters with deer on the road in the last 15 years in Ithaca where
the deer population has gotten so brazen to roam around down town on
occasion.

I remember one cold winter night when I ended up waiting at a bus stop
along with a family of deer. Let me tell you, bambi is cute, but I was
scared ;-)


> The biggest problem (though not the sole cause) of car/deer encounters
> is drivers who believe their sole obligation is to point the car
> toward their destination and step on the gas.

Agreed. And those who think that brakes work instantly under all
conditions.

Sinan
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Matt Whiting

A. Sinan Unur wrote:

> I remember one cold winter night when I ended up waiting at a bus stop
> along with a family of deer. Let me tell you, bambi is cute, but I was
> scared ;-)

No need to be scared of a whitetail. Now a black bear with cubs is a
different story!

Matt