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i believe 5point will run anyone on this board..... and destroy them

 
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How many times have I seen this same debate. I used to be into DSMs and back in the 90s it was cool to wind out the car and really surprise high dollar cars and proven domestics...now its as old and stale as Oprahs douche.

But exotics have stepped it up: M5=500hp, SL65=604hp, RS4= 420hp, 997T=480hp

Fact is, when you have made it and have the cash you trade up. For something with some style, luxury and balanced performance. As if some stock broker is going to pull up to the country club in a Talon with a big 16G, gutted interior, no cat and solid motor mounts...don't be silly

I will trade the Skyline in for something upmarket in the future, the noise, the fumes and the stiffy suspension wears you down.

 
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You make some good points. But who said you couldn't have a fast talon and also a nice luxury car to get around with. I have my luxury car to get around for special occasions and also a light fast car for when I get bored and want to race something. Oh and although those cars you mentioned are nice cars I wouldn't consider them exotics. An Exotic is something alot more rare like an Enzo, SLR, Carrera GT, and even a Veyron obviously.

 
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Well yeah point taken... SL65 is pretty exotic bro, you don't see many of those especially like the Renntech version I'm testing next week that has 750ft lbs!

Definition of "exotic" is getting blurry anyway since they are all owned by companies that also make econoboxes on assembly lines: Fiat>Ferrari&Maserati Audi>Lamborghini VW>Bugatti&Bentley Ford>Aston Martin...I was pointing out the avg. high-end cars aren't complacent with 400hp anymore. They are tuning these things to roast heavily modified cars, I think was a response to the tuning craze and say your avg 911 consumer saying I got pwned by a DSM wtf?

 
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renntech only added 12lb-ft?

 
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Ha good eye, actually some of their ECU upgrades are as little as 10/14.

sry that was the torque # for the Stage I SL600.

This is car is Stage I SL65 670hp/840ftlb.

 
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Jesus Christ, 840lb/ft. You could probably start that car off in 6th and still beat mine.

 
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talon are fast and chaep so if buddy got his super car spanked by a 5000$ talon vs 60 000$ for his porsh he obviously didnt buy the right car!!!

 
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Didn't the SL65 come with more torque but they had to detune it because the tranny couldn't take it.