yes it can be reffered to that but i reffer to it as dohc v-tec dosint really matter. And his car is b18a? wtf and if it is then you run more compression with that head on the b18a.

I never said that his car has a B18. I don't know where you're getting that from.

no i asked if you said that because i didnot understand what u were trying to say but its all good sorry

There is more then one DOHC VTEC engine, so if you dont specify that its a "ls-vtec", who will know what you mean?

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The civic has a D series motor. We re-did the race last weekend. The out come? the same.

This time I drove the Mini as oppose to my friend driving the mini.

He drove his Civic Si.

This time around I also made sure I took off the traction controll in the Mini, I launched from 4000 RPM so did he. We both got amazing starts all three times we did it. But he jumped ahead this time a little less, but still like 1 and a half car lengths away. He stayed steady at that untill I hit 4th in the mini.

Still confused as to what else the Civic may have done to it.

Side note:

- Both cars were warmed up properly
- Both cars recently had oil change
- Both on Winter's (mini with Pirelli Winter Sports)
And to clarify the models and years of both cars
- 1994 Civic Si Coupe with D series motor v-tech
*Stright Pipe
*Intake
- 2003 Mini Cooper S

no, not post . just dont give a **** about this bitching about which motor this civic has.

Then don't read it. Skip over it, and get on with you life.

the mcs may seem fast on paper, but its not designed to be a drag car.. nuff said... under skilled hands, tops stock minis will do low 16s, high 15s....

http://www.ross-tech.net/andy/mini/d...artermile.html

this is the link from a US source for minis which have done 'offical' drag stripe 1/4 mile runs... as you guys can see, high 15s

also, is the mini running larger diameter wheels? if the civic runs 14' winters and the mini runs 16' winters, or worse 17'... it'd of course make a difference...

not trying hard to defend the mini btw.... but i just gotta say, despite its a great car, its not the fastest on the straight line, especially off in 1st or 2nd, because gearing is absolutely horrid.... (wayy too tall!)

^ Very true. The car was running on 17'' winters, the civic 15'' i think. Sorry, forgot to mention that.

When you're that close in hp/weight....there are two things to consider:

1: the engine's torque/horsepower curve and
2: gearing (both transmission and third member)

Even when my truck was bone stock I could get a jump on some VTEC Civics off the line. Why? 'Cuz I had more torque at 2500RPM than they did throughout their entire rev range. Also, (point #2) my truck being a truck is geared low for hauling/towing. 3.73 rear + very low 1/2/3 gears means it's fairly snappy off the line, but (in stock form) hit 80-100 and it completely runs out of steam...just where something like a high-revving DOHC motor wakes up. Of course by the time they hit 5000+ RPM in 2nd I was seeing Civic taillights lol.

Gearing: I had a '79 2dr Caprice with a mildly massaged engine. Cam, heads, straight piped, intake, ignition. And yet...it was slower than either one of my '77 Caprices when they were stock (same engine/transmission). Why? my '79 came with a 2.41 rear end...absolute junk for off-the-line racing.

All driver, the Mini-S should DESTROY a Si Civic...no contest...
Perhaps he's hiding something...

First of all a 160hp mini should walk all over a mostly stock civic si. My only guess is that it is driver error.

A b18a is a NON-vtec engine. Unless you are going to build an LS vtec, you have no idea what you're talking about.

The civic does not have a B16. If it did you would know it. A B16 civic would severely beat both a stock civic and a mini cooper S. The civic has a d16 that makes 127hp.

And lastly "v-tech" is a phone.

im with him :)

a b16 civic will not severly beat anything.